Electric Vehicles

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  1. Pile Driving Miss Daisy

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    I'm guessing it's that, that may be the funniest and most obscure insult I've been subject to.
     
  2. g8r

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    My office has one. Possibly the least interesting vehicle I have ever got in.
     
  3. Pile Driving Miss Daisy

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    Yeah I don't care about trying to make my dick look bigger in a sweet Tesla, I'm just trying to save money and have a car that has a pretty decent range for the battery. It also accelerates very fast and smooth, not as much as the newer Tesla's but driving a non hybrid as a rental felt very clunky.
     
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  4. g8r

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    It’s acceleration surprised me. Not close even to first gen Tesla but better than expected from a $30k ev.
     
  5. Where Eagles Dare

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    How much bigger will a tesla make my shaft + head look??
     
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  6. 1

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    Much bigger head but shaft stays the same. You'll have a real mushroom dick situation going on.
     
  7. Where Eagles Dare

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    I like it
     
  8. Degausser

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    Dealers now telling us these are being delayed even longer because a wiring harness they use is manufactured in Ukraine. I don't feel like doing the research to verify this, but either way, we may be moving on to another option.
     
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  9. Name P. Redacted

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    Guy I went to college with worked on the Volt /csb
     
  10. bwi2

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    Have an XC40 waiting for a boat, hopefully only a couple weeks away
     
  11. racer

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    Got a happy birthday to my car from the salesman the other day. 12 months, 23k miles. Looks like I’m scheduled for an update tonight that might enable hands free highway driving, so that’s fun.
     
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  12. afb

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    well in that case we should just cancel all EVs and frack away
     
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  13. Arliden

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    There are definitely folks like this, it would take a serious commitment like something at or above Covid stimulus numbers to get the ball rolling. But it definitely would be possible and a much needed shot in the arm for the US.

    At the same time there is far too much hand waving that things like recycling and technological advancements will be the panacea for clear materials shortages that are on the horizon for A LOT of metals, materials, and energy.
     
  14. Arliden

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    Out of curiosity what type of trends are you seeing? My main concern with this decade are your last couple of sentences.

    We’ve become an energy ignorant country and unfortunately I think that will result in an energy crisis that will reverberate into many other sectors like industrials and agriculture.

    My only hope is the pain spurs us into smart decisions on large infrastructure projects like nuclear (big and small), desalinization, transmission lines, plus renewables. While using our advantage in nat gas as a crutch till we can transition better.
     
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  15. AptosDuck

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    Got word last week that the ID.4 that I ordered in October is completed and on its way. Asked VW this morning for the VIN so I could track it, and they said they didn't have that information LIARS

    2017 LEAF update: 3300 miles in slightly under three months, figure we saved around $800 in fuel so far
     
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  16. Eric The Viking

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    Anyone in here have a solar setup at their house? If so, wondering how that’s been, so far?
     
  17. racer

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    I’m thinking about it. My first round of estimates included the average kwh for the car, so they were pretty high. I want to wait a bit and pay cash since their financing is a scam.
     
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  18. Arliden

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    who did you go through?
     
  19. 1

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    You should watch last nights 60 Minutes
     
  20. Degausser

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    You could tell me about it. I think I'd prefer that.
     
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  21. bwi2

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    My car dealer would never lie to me
     
  22. orangebl00d

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    solar and batteries. AMA! utility wrote me a check last year for close to 1k
     
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  23. Clemson327

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    I have a system with 24 335W panels with 290W micro-inverters, and I’m producing right at 12 MWh/yr. I’ve had it almost three years, and it’s been great. At some point, I’d like to install a battery or use a Lightning/other EV for backup power. When I had my Leaf, I basically produced all the power that I used for that and the house.
     
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  24. Scblue

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    Just put a downpayment down for the wife's Genesis GV60. Supposedly going to get it by June, but they haven't even released a MSRP yet.
     
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  25. PAHokie

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    Neighbor had some installed this past year. I think it would be cool to have solar, but I don’t see how it would make $ sense for me. My power bill is like $50/mo.
     
  26. AptosDuck

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    This wasn't the dealer, it was VW.com. Jason in the registry chat told me to ask my dealer for VIN info because they might have it even though my car isn't scheduled to be delivered to them until July. I'm certainly not going to waste my time talking to the local dealer and getting more runaround wild goose chase bullshit
     
  27. Where Eagles Dare

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    What happens when you need a new roof? Is it a fuck load of extra work?

    I have a 3 story house modern house w/ a flat-ish and you can't see the roof from the street. I've wondered if any of the programs aren't a scam and how beneficial it would be for me. Roof should be near full sun all day
     
  28. Clemson327

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    I have a metal roof so I’m not expecting that to be a concern in my lifetime. I guess you’d have to have the solar panels removed and remounted if the whole roof needed to be replaced.

    I also went with a local installer in Upstate SC after having a bad experience with one of the big companies and ended up getting a better deal.
     
  29. g8r

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    There will be quite a few coal and gas generators going offline in the next decade. Partially due to legislation but mostly due to required updates to the tune of $100s of millions each. These updates are being considered now but fear of future regulations are causing hesitation thinking it would result in a bunch of stranded cost. This is on top of having certain areas that are already estimated to have an energy deficit during peak demand seasons.

    I believe nuclear is the long term answer to cleaner and dependable generation. The issue is the time it takes (~20 years) and cost over runs on current projects make them less palatable. Transmission line upgrades are sorely needed, during the polar vortex last year certain systems almost had blackouts because the transmission lines reached their capacity to transport (I know of two that could have burned down if they tried to push more through). Problem with this is no one wants to pay the higher cost of power that will go along with it.
     
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  30. g8r

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    This should come with a disclaimer that not all situations are the same. Please talk to your utility before signing a contract with solar. See it every day where the solar providers outright lie to people about potential savings. They also drastically overstate the real world output of the panels.
     
  31. g8r

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    How much did that system cost?
     
  32. PJP3

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    Very happy with our system. Have broken even in about 3.5 years. Used to have about 1k/mo electric bills in summer and 3-400 in winter. Now our solar covers almost all of our electricity but with being home more the last couple years we have owed about an extra $1k at the end of the 12 month cycle. Still very worth it, but I also live in a desert so unlimited sunshine and running the AC non stop 7-8 months a year so its a no brainer here. Probably at least 1/3 of the houses here have solar.
     
  33. PJP3

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    The company I went with insures the roof under and a 3 foot perimeter around all panels wether its due to anything related to panels or not, so if theres any leaks they pay to repair it. I thought it was a nice perk.
     
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  34. SD_Irish

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    I’m excited to see the Hyundai Ioniq 6 unveiled soon. The Ioniq 5 has been getting rave reviews, and I’m hoping the 6 is even cooler. Going to have a tough decision to make soon thereafter. So many cool EVs out there.
     
  35. Clemson327

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    $28k

    Edit: That’s before the 30% federal and 25% state credits and installed on our roof. It would have been a little cheaper on the ground, but we wanted the panels out of sight.
     
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  36. orangebl00d

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    ?? I've had my system for over a year and have already seen the return on yearly use; I have the ROI. unless I'm missing something, the output has already been quantified
     
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  37. g8r

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    Desert is one of a few areas where you get nameplate generation.
     
  38. Clemson327

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    I’m also within 0.5 MWh annually of what was estimated for my system, but my peak production capacity is right where it should be at 6.9-7.0 kW.
     
  39. Tommy Jefferson

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    Spending $1,000 each month on electricity is jaw dropping
     
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  40. PJP3

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    It's because so cal edison charges whatever the fuck they want here and you're just stuck with it. You can't just not run the AC when its 115 degrees. If you have a house on the other side of an arbitrary street your electricity comes from a public utility company and their electric bills are literally 1/4-1/3 of what we pay on the edison side. Needless to say, solar is very popular here.
     
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  41. HuskerInMiami

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    My wife got a flat tire half way to Orlando last Wednesday. She called me and my heart dropped. Then I find out that within 30 minutes a guy from Tesla (a contractor) had changed her tire and she was on her way. There aren't spare tires, so they put on another tire (not a spare) that had a different colored rim. We just had to go to the Tesla Dealer in West Palm and swap out the one they gave us within the week. She called Monday and they said to come right in and within 20 minutes she was out of there. It was so easy that she handled the whole process herself.

    When the tire was getting low, it told her that she had a leak and would likely have a flat tire soon. It told her to take the next exit and go to a gas station. She said it had a phone number to call and bullet points for what would happen.
     
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  42. racer

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    So easy a broad can do it!
     
  43. g8r

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    FYI miso (which covers a swathe in the middle of the US) has said they don’t have enough generation capacity to meet projected needs for the summer.
     
  44. bwi2

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    good thing cars don’t need to be charged during peak periods of energy use
     
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  45. bwi2

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    it got here a couple of weeks ago and I’m loving it for daily use
     
  46. g8r

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    So you think people wait until off peak times to plug up their cars?
     
  47. Tommy Jefferson

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    A vast majority plug in the cars when they return from work at 5 pm. So yes, a majority are not pulling significant loads at noon.
     
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  48. racer

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    You really have no idea how this works, do you?
     
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  49. bwi2

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    Yes, I think pretty much everyone can charge overnight
     
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  50. racer

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    Nearly all new cars and a lot of charging equipment are programmable so that you only draw power during off-peak. Some equipment is even connected/smart and knows the peak schedule and pricing changes and adjusts accordingly.
     
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