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Discussion in 'The Mainboard' started by TheChatch, Apr 25, 2015.
SWFL just broke its 77th (!) high temperature record of 2022.
im in that yellow blob, can confirm it’s hot af.
Praying that hurricane off the coast of Mexico gives us moisture and not gusty winds and lightning or we are fucked.
I wouldn’t worry about it since OP said global warming is debunked imo
Not sure where how I came across this video, if it was posted previously just disregard but interesting none the less with what SA is trying to do.
The best way to make change happen in the world is to shame people. Put them on blast and it makes almost everyone improve immediately.
thanks. What are some solution for the salt being introduced into the ocean at high levels? Keep it in large tanks and let the water evaporate then feed the salt to horses?
A la Carthage, put the salt on 490 of the 500 golf courses in Phoenix.
I believe in the study they just said to increase the amount water to help with dilution.
Here is what the author said verbatim.
Spoiler: Clip of article
The bad news in the study is that the salinity level in the discharge zone exceeded the permitted level, and the salinity plume extended much farther offshore than permitted under the California Ocean Plan. Senior author Adina Paytan, a research professor in the Institute of Marine Sciences at UC Santa Cruz, said the study provides valuable information for planners considering where to locate future desalination plants and what discharge technologies to use.
"Desalination is one solution for addressing our water needs in densely populated coastal areas. It can work if done right, and our study highlights some areas where planning and monitoring can be improved," Paytan said.
She noted that all the right steps were taken during the 14 years of planning for the Carlsbad Desalination Plant, including modeling of the discharge system to ensure that the brine would be effectively diluted as it mixed with ocean water. "They did what they were supposed to do, and the fact that it still wasn't sufficient means that somehow the models being used are not good enough," Paytan said.
Technologies are available that could reduce the impact of the brine on salinity levels at the site, she said. Currently the plant mixes the brine with cooling water from the power plant before discharging it through a channel extending about 50 meters offshore.
"The combined discharge is a good approach, but they might need to dilute it more," Paytan said. "They could also use a diffusor system, which is basically a pipe with lots of small holes in it that spreads out the discharge over a larger area so the mixing potential is higher."
The study also suggests that desalination plants should be located away from areas where there are sensitive habitats or intact coastal ecosystems that might be disrupted by the brine discharge. "If you want less impact, you might as well do it where the natural environment has already been impacted by previous and ongoing human activities," Paytan said.
There are pictures of large completely dry rivers in Nebraska on social media and in every picture there’s morons in the comments screaming “YOU CAN’T MAKE ME DRIVE AN ELECTRIC CAR.”
Lol we had ppl posting about how fires are being started by Democrats to further the climate hoax
The largest reservoir (Lake McConaughy) in the region is at 38% of full pool. That’s the goddamn boat ramp
And we had a 500-1000 year flood that left entire towns cutoff from supplies for days just a few years ago. But everything is totally normal
can you post pics?
Platte River. It gets better in the eastern part of the state once spring fed rivers dump into it but where it’s fed by rain and snow melt it’s bone dry.
On a selfish level I’m already mourning the North Platte’s trout.
This was spring of 2019 in basically the entire state. The weather is fine and totally normal!
that's a depressing sight
This is very encouraging news.
The definitive agreement between NuScale Power, whose SMR is the first and only small modular reactor to receive design approval from the U.S. Nuclear Regulatory Commission, and KGHM, a Poland-based leader in copper and silver production and large industrial energy user, will position KGHM as a clean energy implementation leader with the first deployment of SMRs in Poland. Under this agreement, NuScale will work with KGHM to support the deployment of SMR technology, and together, the organizations will take steps toward deploying a first NuScale VOYGR™ power plant in Poland as early as 2029, which would help Poland avoid up to 8M tons of CO2 emissions per year. The deployment of the VOYGR plant by 2029 is directly tied to the Climate policy of KGHM Polska Miedź and the Company’s new strategic direction - energy.
The first task under the agreement will identify and assess potential project sites and develop project planning milestones and cost estimates. These activities support KGHM as it evaluates NuScale VOYGR plants as a coal repurposing solution for existing power plants, as well as opportunities to deploy VOYGR plants to provide safe, carbon-free, reliable energy for their operations and to support other Polish industrial energy users.
I get the heebie-jeebies looking at all of this flatness.
We live in Colorado and my FIL just suggested that our state “dam up the Colorado River” as to cut off the western states.
I didn’t even know where to start….
I tried to spend the night in North Platte once. Every hotel room was booked. No room at any inn.
Fucking Nebraskaland Days.
I’m talking in Wyoming but maybe it’s deluxe down in Huskland too?
Danny Woodhead is the only good thing to come out of North Platte and somewhere along the line the trout stop heading down the river because that’s like, catfishing territory.
it probably has 60 dams like every other river in our apocalyptic hellscape
Prob. And it gets too hot and flat to hold a cold water species like trout. You can only catch that sort of thing in the Northern/Western part of the state.
So the other reason why our rivers are dry at this time of year is that lots of parts of the state have been using them for irrigation for the entire summer. If you have a dry summer it doubly fucks the rivers that are fed by rain and snow melt because farmers are pulling whatever is left of water out of rivers to irrigate. When it’s a wet year it both feeds the rivers and avoids irrigation usage.
same, same. And we have the added bonus of Mormons controlling water rights to our biggest water sources, like the Henry’s Fork of the Snake. So cool man.
lol that's a pretty stupid rationalization and also, what's different than where we are now?
how is that a stupid rationalization? Did you not observe what is occuring to Germany/Europe as a whole right now with Russia? That is the current state of affairs and China is not trending towards being our friend.
it is different than now as we are the largest oil producer in the world, the largest refiner in the world, and the largest natural gas producer in the world.
I’m not objecting to solar or wind but that can’t be our core spine of energy production it has to be nuclear for a variety of reasons. We most certainly should take advantage of our cheap nat gas stocks and become a large producer of poly silicon like the Whacker facility in Tennessee
We aren't buying the wind or the sun from China. We're buying the infrastructure to harness it. That's why it's stupid. It'd be like being mad we buy oil pipes or tankers or train cars from China.
You in West Nebraska? Went duck and pheasant hunting out of Paxton many years ago. Best duck hunts of my life, shooting ducks in a blizzard over what I believe what the North Platte
You can’t rely on other countries for energy or energy infrastructure is the point.
Yeah but we do rely on them for that. And everything else. We live in a global economy. It's literally unavoidable.
And it's no different than the current state of affairs. It's not even a little. It's a misdirection by some schmuck who's trying to make a false equivalence to prop up the idea of continuing to use fossil fuels when it's a disingenuous comparison because infrastructure and fuel are not the same thing.
Guess where the biggest manufacturers of rolling stock (you know, how oil/coal/everything is transported in the United States) in the world are located? Hint: not a single one in the United States.
we could also say fuck china and cozy up to venezuela and bolivia and get the infrastructure in place there to mine the abundance of rare earth minerals in those countries to compete with China's current monopoly
Where are world's largest tubular (oil) pipe manufacturers in the world located? Most not in the US.
They (China) rely on the US for energy as well as other countries, part of the reason they are building out 150 nuclear reactors over 10 years, which is what we should be doing as well.
We do rely on them for LNG tanker build out but you want to know why they do that? Because they do not have natural gas like the US does. If no tankers are built that energy stays in the US it’s land locked, it doesn’t harm us.
He’s a Bloomberg dude that does the odd lots podcast, he’s fairly reasonable dude from everything I’ve read and listened.
I’m sorry to break it to you but we still need hydrocarbons to “transition” energy.
It would be better for emissions and the United States if solar and poly silicon production was done in the US end of story.
We could, but the point is we can’t rely on China to be our major manufacturer of energy infrastructure.
Good luck cozying up to those places but especially Venezuela.
I don't disagree that renewable energy production should be centered here. If covid taught us anything it's that onshoring more manufacturing makes sense. But the messaging can't be that we're pursuing energy dependence. We're already there and have been there forever. We're better now because of fossil fuel extraction but that sort of false equivalence between infrastructure and energy gets the feelers up.
right, we can't rely on china which is why we should look to new partners who also happen to have an overabundance of rare earth minerals as well as being remarkably closer than china
I am not in Western Nebraska but that picture is taken in Central Nebraska and is not mine. Was just on social media. Paxton is way the fuck out there.
See where I disagree is pipe does not create the energy, solar and wind turbines do.
You should not have a foe be a critical cog in energy, we can and should do better.