Has anyone bought their first home near a major city in the last 12 months?

Discussion in 'The Mainboard' started by bro, Apr 14, 2022.

  1. Eathan Edwards

    Eathan Edwards Well-Known Member
    Donor
    New Orleans PelicansNew Orleans SaintsMississippi Rebels

    This is a grift that knows no bounds when we attempt this in LA.

    Our recently approved homeless development is at a cost of over 800k per unit - as someone that deals with construction and permitting in Los Angeles on a daily basis - gonna take a stab in the dark an absurd amount of waste/theft from taxpayers is occurring there.
     
    FightingCock and dblplay1212 like this.
  2. Beanh8er

    Beanh8er Get the cock out of your ear, Dumbfuck.
    Donor
    Florida State SeminolesMiami Dolphins

    Bought a condo for $128,000 (125 + 3 in closing costs) July 2020. Refinanced October of last year for a 2.99% interest rate at $163,000 appraisal. About $930 a month mortgage/ins/taxes and could easily rent it out for $1600-1800/month. Best financial move I’ve ever made.
     
  3. Lip

    Lip Well-Known Member
    Donor
    Michigan State SpartansDetroit LionsGeorge Washington Colonials

    what do you have against beans tho
     
    Boo MFer! likes this.
  4. Volholic16

    Volholic16 Well-Known Member
    Donor
    Tennessee VolunteersAtlanta BravesNashville PredatorsGrateful Dead

    At best, I live in a tertiary market (Chattanooga area) but prices are still crazy by our standards. The median home price just topped $300k.

    We put a place under contract in early September of 2021 but didn’t close on it until November. The sellers wanted to stay until then and we didn’t really care cause we weren’t selling our then-current home. I did a little cosmetic type work and we didn’t end up moving in until the week before Christmas. We were the first showing and made an offer like 30 min later. Thankfully no bidding war, just came in at list price. The sellers surprisingly ended up making several concessions (both financially and actually making some repairs) that I didn’t necessarily expect but we later learned that they had already bought another house and were wanted to keep us on the hook. We really lucked out.

    We had been looking off and on for a couple years and had made unsuccessful attempts to buy other places, both on and off market.

    I’m a commercial broker and had the impression the market was maybe loosening up a little bit. After recently speaking to a couple close friends who are legitimately good residential brokers, it is evidently even worse now.

    We could probably sell for at least 75k more than what we paid 5 months ago. I ended up renting my old house but it has pretty much doubled in value in the 6 years I’ve owned it.
     
  5. THF

    THF BITE THE NUTS, THUMB IN THE ASS!
    Donor
    Arkansas RazorbacksSan Francisco GiantsOklahoma City ThunderDallas CowboysSan Francisco 49'ersMontreal Impact

    Funny enough I was legitimately just asking his opinion. I work with a lot of affordable housing developers, owners, and operators. So I knew Blackrock had just created a division to focus on affordable housing and was curious what some people thought of it.

    I don’t work with Blackrock, but I understand intimately the affordable housing crisis.
     
  6. AptosDuck

    AptosDuck Pedantic Hausfrau
    Donor
    California Golden Bears

    I feel your pain, brother. We're having a helluva time finding affordable vacation property in Hawaii
     
  7. ramszoolander

    ramszoolander Guess what? Vulcan butt!
    Donor
    West Virginia MountaineersBirmingham Legion

    We've got people in here claiming way sadder cities than Chattanooga are major (and Chattanooga is great). Plus, with VW there, the internet stuff years ago, etc., you're going to have a crazy market.
     
    Volholic16 and THF like this.
  8. CaneKnight

    CaneKnight FSU Private Board's Fav Poster
    Donor

    Fuck did all these shit posters come from????

    The opinion that you can’t complain about being essentially locked out of ownership of a living space and essentially relegated to renting forever unless there’s a serious market downturn is just an elite shit take. Especially when the people locking you out are large corporations who’s entire intention is to do just that. Paste eater level comprehension of the situation as a whole.

    But not surprising considering the gutter trash bootlicking losers carry that water in here
     
    #408 CaneKnight, Apr 16, 2022
    Last edited: Apr 16, 2022
    The_411 likes this.
  9. AptosDuck

    AptosDuck Pedantic Hausfrau
    Donor
    California Golden Bears

    I still {heart} you
     
  10. Lip

    Lip Well-Known Member
    Donor
    Michigan State SpartansDetroit LionsGeorge Washington Colonials

    you may be better served in this hell world by redirecting some of this passion into money making activities
     
  11. Volholic16

    Volholic16 Well-Known Member
    Donor
    Tennessee VolunteersAtlanta BravesNashville PredatorsGrateful Dead

    True on VW.

    I should add I am interested to see how much rising rates slow things down.
     
  12. CaneKnight

    CaneKnight FSU Private Board's Fav Poster
    Donor

    “hey people are being fucked by corporations”


    “LOL SUCKS TO BE POOR”

    Very normal response to actual problems
     
    The_411 likes this.
  13. Homo Erectus

    Homo Erectus The important thing is, you think I'm attractive
    Donor

  14. Tommy Jefferson

    Tommy Jefferson Well-Known Member
    Nebraska CornhuskersKansas JayhawksKansas City RoyalsKansas City Chiefs

    I keep hearing the biggest issue right now is there is a low supply. If home builders were to put up hundreds/thousands of new builds the market will level out. If that were to happen wouldn’t the these corporate landlords just increase the frequency at which they’re buying to match the increased rate of building?

    I just don’t see a solution to what we’re facing. Either the government puts a cap on number of properties an entity can own or ‘the American dream’ can no longer include owning real estate.
     
    dblplay1212 likes this.
  15. Bo Pelinis

    Donor TMB OG
    Nebraska CornhuskersKansas City RoyalsKansas City ChiefsBig 8 Conference

    For anyone who wants to build, good fucking luck. Nobody decent wants any work and material prices are stupid. That’s everywhere.

    Buy in the Midwest tho srs. Much more affordable although obv not everyone’s cup of tea.
     
    Chumbolone and FightingCock like this.
  16. Lyrtch

    Lyrtch My second favorite meat is hamburger
    Staff Donor

    housing being seen as an asset is very bad so diminishing that value would be great
     
    Bruce Wayne likes this.
  17. Bo Pelinis

    Donor TMB OG
    Nebraska CornhuskersKansas City RoyalsKansas City ChiefsBig 8 Conference

    OTOH that’s mostly the only avenue for a lot of people to do any sort of multigenerational boot strapping.
     
    ramszoolander likes this.
  18. Lyrtch

    Lyrtch My second favorite meat is hamburger
    Staff Donor

    yeah but that's not a good argument for keeping it that way with all the secondary impacts that break society
     
  19. Bo Pelinis

    Donor TMB OG
    Nebraska CornhuskersKansas City RoyalsKansas City ChiefsBig 8 Conference

    Idk if lowering wealth for most average people is the right move
     
  20. Lyrtch

    Lyrtch My second favorite meat is hamburger
    Staff Donor

    then you'll continue to incentivize the behavior that got us here
     
  21. Bo Pelinis

    Donor TMB OG
    Nebraska CornhuskersKansas City RoyalsKansas City ChiefsBig 8 Conference

    I’m cool with caps generally. I’m not as into the broader aim at lowering asset value for regular people. Sometimes they’re linked but you were pretty broad in your statement. That sort of broad brush goes too far imo
     
    ramszoolander likes this.
  22. Lyrtch

    Lyrtch My second favorite meat is hamburger
    Staff Donor

    Disagree, get people other investment vehicles and have housing similar to vehicles would be a huge net gain for the country.
     
  23. Eathan Edwards

    Eathan Edwards Well-Known Member
    Donor
    New Orleans PelicansNew Orleans SaintsMississippi Rebels

    Also lead times are comical on everything now - I've basically had to double my overall construction timelines.
     
    Funshot Residue likes this.
  24. Lyrtch

    Lyrtch My second favorite meat is hamburger
    Staff Donor

    i also think intergenerational wealth is bad so i'm just from a wildly different vantage point in this whole thing. easier avenues to help social mobility.
     
  25. Bo Pelinis

    Donor TMB OG
    Nebraska CornhuskersKansas City RoyalsKansas City ChiefsBig 8 Conference

    There are lots of other investment vehicles available now that people don’t take advantage of.

    Things with huge incentives.
     
  26. Eathan Edwards

    Eathan Edwards Well-Known Member
    Donor
    New Orleans PelicansNew Orleans SaintsMississippi Rebels

    Agree to disagree here - I've had to put myself in mountains of personal debt to get venues open on three occasions - if I had any interest in having kids, I wouldn't want them to have to go through that if I had the cash to help.

    I'm not buying them a palace and a Ferrari but I would definitely buy them their first house or something.
     
    wolfpck, Kylebw1 and ramszoolander like this.
  27. Bo Pelinis

    Donor TMB OG
    Nebraska CornhuskersKansas City RoyalsKansas City ChiefsBig 8 Conference

    Ostentatious generational wealth doesn’t hit. Going from poor to less poor is alright by me and something that we should encourage. Like, the actual American dream that we barely have anymore and all that
     
  28. Lyrtch

    Lyrtch My second favorite meat is hamburger
    Staff Donor

    yeah i think the negative impacts of intergenerational wealth across multiple levels are insanely big but getting a kid a starter home or something isn't really reaching that level to me
     
  29. Lyrtch

    Lyrtch My second favorite meat is hamburger
    Staff Donor

    yes i think intragenerational social mobility is great and we should create a society where it's possible generally vs how it's really not now
     
    Bo Pelinis likes this.
  30. Creighton

    Creighton Well-Known Member

    But this isn't what's happening. You're choosing not to purchase a home. It isn't that you can't actually afford to purchase one.

    To use the analogy from poster Lyrtch, you're the guy at the dinner table eating a hamburger complaining that you're starving because you're upset other people are eating steaks. So you compare yourself to the children actually starving to get pity on your hamburger eating situation. While you have every right to complain about the overall food market, you look extremely callous conflating your situation to those who are literally starving.

    You're making this issue about yourself instead of the overall problem.
     
  31. ramszoolander

    ramszoolander Guess what? Vulcan butt!
    Donor
    West Virginia MountaineersBirmingham Legion

    But, to be honest, that's because of your perspective, right?

    If you didn't have indoor plumbing growing up, that perspective would be different. Where does that stop? Is it ok for you to be fine with passing along a house? Isn't that unjust?

    I understand your argument, but it seems very naive to me (much as it would be naive to let capitalism just run rampant).
     
  32. ramszoolander

    ramszoolander Guess what? Vulcan butt!
    Donor
    West Virginia MountaineersBirmingham Legion

    Lyrtch the question is: where do you stop peeling the onion. Can you? Should you? Etc.
     
  33. Lyrtch

    Lyrtch My second favorite meat is hamburger
    Staff Donor

    i think we should work to create a system where no matter how wealthy your parents are it doesn't functionally determine outcomes for their kids

    we're in no stratosphere close to that now, best predictor of your wealth is your parents, social mobility is putridly low and declining.

    in that world buying your kid a house has marginal impact on their lifetime position in life because the kids without that advantage would still have security in housing
     
    BayouMafia likes this.
  34. skiedfrillet

    skiedfrillet It's not a lie if you believe it.
    Donor
    Clemson Tigers

    someone explain to me like a 3 year old why all these hedge funds and corps are buying up homes

    are they buying them up and just renting them out to people as a new revenue stream? long term rental or do they do the airbnb shit?
     
  35. Eathan Edwards

    Eathan Edwards Well-Known Member
    Donor
    New Orleans PelicansNew Orleans SaintsMississippi Rebels

    You don't think that if you worked your ass off your entire life to be wealthy that your children should have access to that capital for their ventures if they aren't dumbass ventures?

    I have no dog in the fight - just seems like an odd take to me.
     
  36. Lyrtch

    Lyrtch My second favorite meat is hamburger
    Staff Donor

    I do not think you should be able to just hand your kids a life into the leisure class no.
     
    soulfly, CaneKnight and LuPoor like this.
  37. CaneKnight

    CaneKnight FSU Private Board's Fav Poster
    Donor

    I want you to do me and everyone else a favor and shut the fuck up. You're a fucking idiot and we don't give a shit about your dumb ass opinion

    Bootlicking cumstain

    Imagine defending institutional corporations right to drive up housing prices. Fucking loser
     
    #437 CaneKnight, Apr 16, 2022
    Last edited: Apr 16, 2022
  38. Eathan Edwards

    Eathan Edwards Well-Known Member
    Donor
    New Orleans PelicansNew Orleans SaintsMississippi Rebels

    I'm not sure what exactly "leisure class" connotes - but I think you definitely have a semi-warped view of how hard the ultra-rich families are on their kids.

    I have multiple friends that grew up knowing their inheritance was on the line based on how successful they were on their own - it's not a monolith by any means
     
    FTK, user15000 and ramszoolander like this.
  39. soulfly

    soulfly Well-Known Member
    Donor
    Seattle MarinersSeattle SeahawksBarcelonaSeattle SupersonicsSeattle SoundersSeattle Kraken

    Ew.
     
    Blu Tang Clan and CaneKnight like this.
  40. LuPoor

    LuPoor Cuddle with the homies watching Stand By Me
    Donor
    Tulsa Golden HurricaneOklahoma City ThunderTottenham HotspurSeattle Kraken

    It would be better if it were the state laying down that rule, instead of parents that can change their mind about it
     
  41. CaneKnight

    CaneKnight FSU Private Board's Fav Poster
    Donor

    Goal is to price the average man out and turn millenials and gen'zers into forever renters
     
    skiedfrillet likes this.
  42. Lyrtch

    Lyrtch My second favorite meat is hamburger
    Staff Donor

    I don't think their parents should be the ones to decide that. It's really just lessons learned from the gilded age that we've lost and are re-living again how it breaks society.
     
    Hatfield and CaneKnight like this.
  43. Eathan Edwards

    Eathan Edwards Well-Known Member
    Donor
    New Orleans PelicansNew Orleans SaintsMississippi Rebels

    You clearly don't know my state
     
    ramszoolander likes this.
  44. LuPoor

    LuPoor Cuddle with the homies watching Stand By Me
    Donor
    Tulsa Golden HurricaneOklahoma City ThunderTottenham HotspurSeattle Kraken

    California is one of 38 states with no estate tax
     
  45. Eathan Edwards

    Eathan Edwards Well-Known Member
    Donor
    New Orleans PelicansNew Orleans SaintsMississippi Rebels

    My point was giving dollars into the state's hands would be a complete and utter disaster as we suck on that front
     
    user15000 and ramszoolander like this.
  46. LuPoor

    LuPoor Cuddle with the homies watching Stand By Me
    Donor
    Tulsa Golden HurricaneOklahoma City ThunderTottenham HotspurSeattle Kraken

    Compared to what rich kids will do with it? I'll take my chances with the state of California, thanks
     
    Lip, Blu Tang Clan and CaneKnight like this.
  47. CaneKnight

    CaneKnight FSU Private Board's Fav Poster
    Donor

    We've def seen over the course of US history that rich failsons are going to be the death of us all
     
  48. Eathan Edwards

    Eathan Edwards Well-Known Member
    Donor
    New Orleans PelicansNew Orleans SaintsMississippi Rebels

    Option 1. California grift to the exact people we deplore
    Option 2. Rich kids spending their money and maintaining a thriving service/retail/commercial industry - because that's where they spend their money
     
    user15000 and ramszoolander like this.
  49. ramszoolander

    ramszoolander Guess what? Vulcan butt!
    Donor
    West Virginia MountaineersBirmingham Legion

    What I was trying to argue about Lyrtch's point is that state implementation of this is always garbage or inept. It's a good idea, but doesn't work. Incentivize charity. It's not perfect, but it's better than that.
     
    THF likes this.
  50. ramszoolander

    ramszoolander Guess what? Vulcan butt!
    Donor
    West Virginia MountaineersBirmingham Legion

    the eternal dilemma