How do you feel about career/business/life coaches?

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  1. Nug

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    Maybe it's just in my circle, but the past year or two I've seen a huge uptick in business coaches, or just quasi-entrepreneurs who give advice to other entrepreneurs/small business owners on how to increase business, get more clients, etc. Or just general "wellness" coaches.

    I'm pretty cynical by nature, but feel like most of these people are full of shit and probably just parrot vague platitudes based on what they've read online. And a lot of desperate small business owners/people just starting out want some checklist/instruction sheet on "how to succeed" when such a thing doesn't really exist. I mean, if there was an "A-B-C" on what you need to do for your business to succeed it'd be a helluva lot easier, right?

    An ex-GF of mine spent more than a grand on one of these and was upset after a few sessions that "she hadn't learned anything about actually starting her business." I had to bite my tongue.

    Anybody have any positive anecdotes from working with such a person?

    /SaturdayNightThoughts
     
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  2. Name P. Redacted

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    They’re fake.
     
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  3. Tommy Callahan

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    Glad she’s an ex gf if she spent a couple grand on one. BS all around
     
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  4. Iron Mickey

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  5. BigReff73

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    Find a good boss and you will have a career coach imo
     
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  6. Nug

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    I completely agree, but I meet so many people that cite this as their profession. Have been solicited by quite a few.

    Guess it's just another grift.
     
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  7. Tommy Callahan

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    Aunt/uncle or older family friend as well.
     
  8. Jimmy the Saint

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    Sounds like low-level “consulting”
     
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  9. Fancy

    Fancy thanks, i hate it
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  10. NDJOECA

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    My buddy has one that he likes, however his company pays for it.
     
  11. devine

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    Go to an actual therapist
     
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  13. Jimmy the Saint

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    Isn’t “life coaching” the new thing for bored housewives instead of selling MLM products?
     
  14. Nug

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    I guess I should've differentiated between life coaches and business coaches.

    For life coaches, yes I think you are correct. More wellness/health than financial.

    I've seen an increase in remote workers that claim to help increase your revenue, gain more clients, etc., overall "help your business grow." Maybe the first step would be to stop spending money on bullshit?
     
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  15. Jimmy the Saint

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    Both grifts nonetheless
     
  16. blind dog

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    Venmo me $69 and I’ll be your life coach

    I’m living best life possible so returns will be so high
     
  17. devine

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    Wtf, you charge me way more for life advice
     
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  18. blind dog

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    your life is so worthless it costs more
     
  19. hood b. goode

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    its all people like this
     
  20. devine

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    This was mean spirited
     
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  21. blind dog

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    Sorry this is part of the coaching, trying to toughen you up
     
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  22. Nug

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    I wonder how many of them actually support themselves vs live off their parents' money. Guessing a large portion are the latter.

    Like what TF even is "brand strategy" or "mindset coach" or "ecommerce strategist." I would love a 4-5 sentence summary of their job description.

    Guess it'd be a lot easier if you were an attractive 20-something female trying to solicit 30-40 year old CEOs with too much fucking money.

    But I'm a little buzzed now and just hatin hard.
     
  23. Gunners

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    Think there are some good ones but most of them are terrible and full of shit.
     
    #23 Gunners, Feb 4, 2023
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  24. IHHH

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    Think there are some good ones but most of them are terrible and full of shit

    Kinda like cops.
     
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  25. Jimmy the Saint

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    Great buzzwords that wannabe “CEO’s” will eat up.

    In my field we hire advisors to cover our ass, not generate ideas.
     
  26. southlick

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  28. hudson

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  29. Wicket

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    I like it within organisations, hate them externally
     
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  30. DetroitNole

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    A guy I used to work with who I'm friends with on Facebook does this now. It's like his 5th job in last few years and his previous ones all were trendy likely pyramid scheme jobs. So going out on a limb and guessing this is the new job for the trying to get rich quick people out there.
     
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  31. fattus

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    I’m going to withhold judgment until Whammy weighs in.
     
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  32. electronic

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    Sounds like the folks in this thread can’t handle the grind and aren’t built different. Have you guys considered that you need to hustle to survive?
     
  33. Jake Scott

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    Rick Ross told us what to do years ago.
     
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  34. ClemPson

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    One of the dumbest people I know who has been fired from almost every job he has had going back to HS is now a business coach. He wrote some terrible self help style book that was #1 in some obscure category on Amazon.
     
  35. Nug

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    Aren't those just consultants?
     
  36. steamengine

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    Like anything else in the social media age there are those with good intentions overshadowed by those grifting successfully.
     
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  37. Whammy

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    Thank you fattus

    The how to get more business types on tik tok are 100% a scam IMO. If you’re so good at business, why are you selling a $50 course on Instagram? Like Andrew Tate selling courses on how to be “alpha” it’s mostly scams.

    Our board made me and my business partner get a performance coach through guided.co, but he’s more of a therapist by training and practice. Emotional management, how to handle stress, productive conflict resolution…have experienced depression (I think) at various times over the last seven years and it was paralyzing.

    We talk more about my parents and childhood than anything else and he’s changed my life for the better. Would recommend therapy or a therapy-oriented coach to anyone, we are going to roll it out to managers this year and hopefully all full-time employees by 2025 if we can make the numbers work.
     
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  38. spagett

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    Grifters that I respect
     
  39. Arrec Bardwin

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    I put positive but will qualify it as this, anyone who sells themselves as these things is a fraud.

    My “life coach” is a psychologist I talk to.
     
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  40. joey jo-jo jr shabadoo

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    bunch of ball washing bastards
     
  41. blind dog

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    is your performance coach the one who gave you the touch grass philosophy ?
     
  42. Mix

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    I always love how it's always guys who never owned a real business trying to tell me how I should run my business. I'll give them some credit for the chutzpah but fuck all the way off with business coaches.
    Get a therapist and work and network like a normal person.
     
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  43. Whammy

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    The great and wise Siddhartha Gautama
     
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  44. El Tiburon

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    I work for a very large and very successful PI firm. Since taking the job, I get pounded daily on LinkedIn by business coaches, SEO specialists, marketing consultants and web designers asking to connect with me because they just know that they can help me build my business! If they were worth a shit, they’d realize this Eskimo has more snow than he knows what to do with already.
     
  45. Name P. Redacted

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    Insane to me.
     
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  46. blind dog

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    So you got your philosophy of logging off from a guy who was alive when electricity wasn’t invented? lol what else was there to do then besides touch grass?
     
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  47. Homo Erectus

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    Smoke it
     
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  48. Whammy

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    I think therapy and wellness is a good benefit to provide tbh
     
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  49. Dirt Dirt McGirt

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    seems like "coaching" has taken over MLM as the new faux-profession for stay-at-home moms

    multiple women from my HS are trying to do it, it's like therapy but without all the unnecessary years of school and expertise
     
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  50. Name P. Redacted

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    Is it a provided benefit or a mandated activity? Former is good, latter is bad IMO.