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Discussion in 'The Mainboard' started by Jax Teller, Oct 18, 2011.
Maybe you’re just the person they need to turn around the company and erase these allegations.
I'd be the marketing/PR/sponsorships guy for the locality so I would be the guy that corporate would get to cover it up
Leak all the dirty laundry to the press and get them fired
Doubt it would do any good until corporate leadership started caring about the animals instead of just caring about lining their pockets with more money
How do you know this is true until you interview and work there getting first hand experience? Don’t sell yourself short. You could save all these animals and be the human Simba.
Does anyone have experience or recommendations on asking for equity when negotiating your offer with a startup?
Hello, I’d like $xy,000 per year and 1.3% equity please.
If Mr. Wonderful has taught me anything, it’s that equity in a startup is a big nothingburger. Get royalties on every sale in perpetuity, IMO.
Anyone ever used a company to redo their resume? Been looking at some to spruce my resume and cover letter up.
A recruiter will do it for free.....and they'll actually know what works best for your field.
I had one recruiter hit me up about a job I went to interview for last week but never actually talked to one about doing any of that. I assume you just reach out to them and hire one? Never used one before.
We will give advice on what you can/should change to improve your resume, but good recruiters are not going to do it for you.
That's honestly better than paying someone who doesn't know your industry or the market.
The company I talked with about it basically explained how it’s an hour conversation with the writer who is supposedly industry specific. Then they send a draft and you can go back and forth as many times until your pleased with it. Just never heard of such a thing before I came across it and I’m horrible at writing them for the most part.
Ahhh. Sounds like they're gonna build it. The recruiters I've worked with have done edits here and there.
Correct. I would send the one I have for reference for dates and whatnot but they’d make a new one based off of the conversation.
How can I find a good recruiter/recruiting firm in my area? I know google, but most seem like shit.
Yes and when they're a good writer it can be worth the money. Much better than relying on a recruiter to help you look better before getting passed on to interviewers.
Go on LinkedIn and see who is recruiting for the jobs you want and connect with them
I’ve still never bought into the whole recruiter scene. Maybe it’s my industry (engineering, architecture, construction) but it seems to me the best way to keep options open is a clean self developed resume, good industry contacts and strong networking. Not sure what a recruiter adds to that
Depends on how competitive/sought after the industry is, the quality of the firm you're going for, and your position level. I would imagine if you're gunning for an Architectural Record top 50 firm, you might need a recruiter to break-in at mid- to senior-levels.
Why would you ignore a free resource that can help you get a better job? There's literally nothing to lose and everything to gain. You can have all those things you listed and still benefit from a good recruiter who knows about jobs that aren't posted yet and has connections with hiring managers to get your resume in front of decision makers
Recruiters are free? I thought they worked on commission.
Little known fact but most are volunteers who just do it for fun.
The company pays them, not the candidate
So wouldn’t that make my resume stronger if the company doesn’t have to pay a recruiter?
You don't use recruiters for jobs you already know about and have applied to
Actually sometimes you do. And sometimes that’s what gets you in the door.
If youve already applied then the recruiter, assuming we're talking 3rd party, won't get paid. It does make sense to contact them if they're working a job you want
Again, if you would not reach out that would be insanely stupid of you.
Edit; Comes across as harsh, didn't mean it that way. I just happen to have a friend who is highly connected in a certain industry and he literally knows EVERYONE. If you want a job in the field he is involved in and you do not use him you are at a disadvantage.
I actually have a recruiter friend who specializes in commercial construction and he makes a metric fuckton of dough while doing not a whole lot of work because he's made a bunch of contacts in the industry. There's definitely value there if you have the right recruiter.
My friend is the same. Great place to be if you can pull it off.
Thoughts on giving your boss a heads up you’re applying to a job under the same corporate umbrella, but not the same entity? Give them a heads up you applied or just don’t tell them?
What’s your relationship like? Is it a promotion? Generally, yes, it’s common courtesy; especially is boss can help by putting in a word.
I think it’s pretty good. Lateral move, but better for me long term
A lot of places will require you to report it to your current boss. There may even be an acknowledgement where you have to confirm your boss is aware. In any event, if you think it will help your chances at all (and not hurt your current job if you don’t get the new one), I would tell your boss.
They will find out one way or another so I'd rather they know up front than be blindsided. Plus it gives you ability to kiss some ass as they will want your managers take on your performance. "Blah blah blah, you're a great manager I really like working for you, just something that I feel can further my career."
Definitely give them a heads up so that they aren't surprised when the hiring manager or HR rep asks them about you.
kill your friend
give me his rolodex
i become new friend w/ $ and connections
Any recruiters here work with casinos in Vegas? Dude I know is wanting to move from casinos in Oklahoma to Vegas.
I’m about to be offered the head gig for an alternative financing company. An equity backed company (~8B). Raise, bonus and equity structure superior to my current position I’ve been at for 2 years, along with at least a full year commitment and guaranteed bonus. But it’s an industry with less prestige and less traditional opportunities for growth. I’ve also been in the same industry for 10 years and this would be my first job out of it.
Some pain at the current job (ownership reluctant to follow through on necessary changes, lack of capital infusion) but I’ve grown it significantly since I’ve been here and certainly wasn’t looking to make a move.
Didn’t you like last month say no amount of money could get you out of your current job? That you had it so good?
I can't speak for him, but it's different when the money is actually on the table.
It’s definitely flattering.
I guess point I’m making is that there was a reason you didn’t look.
This was the post I remembered.
Easiest way I can explain it is to find a Recruiter with some tenure in their current job, in your field.
Contact that Recruiter and set up a call. It’ll be a mutual interview to see if you guys could work well together.
The more niched the Recruiter, the better.
You’d be hard pressed to find a better Medical Device Regulatory Recruiter in the country than myself (humble brag). I take pride in knowing just about every decision maker in my space across the country, from VC-backed startups to billion-dollar corporations. In my space, I’d speculate unemployment is nearly -25%. If I have a good Regulatory candidate, I can get that person out to a handful of companies the same week, half won’t even have postings.
I’d be reporting to someone I’ve known since my first job out of college, I was a market research analyst and he a director of sales (now oversees a bunch of these funds co’s, one of which I’d be running). We’ve kept in touch all of these years and always said we’d work together again.
He knows that flexibility is important and I’d keep mostly the same schedule once I get in there and get stuff straightened out.
It’s also maybe my one opportunity to make fuck you money on my own terms. I’ve always said money isn’t everything but I’d much rather be able to do passion projects when I’m 40 then continuing to work for a paycheck. If it doesn’t work out it was 1 year. I’m not afraid of failure, and know my skills are applicable and my network vast so i wouldn’t be on the market long.
My wife is also nearing the time of wanting kids and I’d like them to be raised in the upstate and not south Florida, so if this doesn’t go as planned after one year I can scoot up there and find a comfortable position to ride out.
Yeah the double my pay was a little hyperbole in response to someone talking about taking a job for a small raise against a bunch more cons listed. The rest is still true.
For the record I’m leaning towards staying. The ownership I have now have been a bit more difficult in the last few months. They turned down an offer for a capital raise that was very fair for bad reasons. But not enough to sour me on the company’s potential.
The only reason I remembered the hyperbole post is because it spoke to me when I was weighing some decisions. You do you, but I still thought it’s important to weigh that thought process.