this? https://apnews.com/article/ap-top-n...itant-groups-3e5b1dbebb2a4ed09cb958c5f11ca9b6 JERUSALEM (AP) — Most of the protesters killed this week by Israeli fire along the border with the Gaza Strip were members of Hamas, the militant group said Wednesday, an assertion that deepens the starkly different narratives on both sides over the deaths. In an interview with Baladna TV, a private Palestinian news outlet that broadcasts via Facebook, senior Hamas official Salah Bardawil said 50 out of the nearly 60 protesters killed Monday were Hamas members, with the others being “from the people.” On Tuesday, the army released a video that appeared to show protesters detonating several explosions near the border. It also said its forces had killed a squad of Hamas gunmen who opened fire at troops. Lt. Col. Jonathan Conricus, a military spokesman, said 14 of those killed Monday were actively involved in carrying out attacks.
Why are you guys arguing with right wingers? He's going to keep moving the goal posts, nitpicking inconsequential facts, lying, etc., because he's arguing for injustice. He doesn't have to argue in good faith, his (and all Zionists) desired result is the continued subjugation and brutalization of Palestine's native population. His position is inherently unjust, why do you think he'll be honest?
You left out an important quote But human rights groups say the identity of slain protesters, including a possible affiliation to a militant group, is irrelevant if they were unarmed and did not pose an immediate threat to the lives of soldiers when they were shot
want to personally thank Illinihockey for helping me see just how extremist and disgusting Zionism is
except the part where they released video of violent attacks. I’m sorry Hamas members got killed, you must be crushed
I just want to point out once again that buddy the “ethnic cleansings rock” bear doesn’t have to be a right winger or trumper to have these disgusting views. He can be a demonrat still. Those Trump jabs don’t hold up
Honestly that post is mild considering how much of a fan he is of child death. It's a step down from his typical extremism
Dude's going to minimize everything Israel does no matter what. There now you don't have interact with him. Yw
If it wasn't so tragic, this would almost be comic. Biden dismantled defunded the only entity (UNRWA) that was scaled up to provide food for the population of Gaza. The port is basically: let some other countries figure out how to get food in, because otherwise who would deliver it? The US armed forces? lol no, they'll likely get shot at by both Hamas and Israel. UNRWA? no, he'd have to eat shit and backtrack. The IDF? lol Hamas? lol
I want to know what the Israelis have on the Biden family. This is absolutely fucking embarrassing. We're allowing them to butcher children because what? because why? Because Israel won't be friends with Russia as much anymore? Israel isn't our friend.
He doesn't give a fuck. He's just trying to save face. He wants the Palestinian's exterminated as bad as the Israeli's do. Fuck him
They doesn't have anything on Biden. Biden also wants those children's butchered and it's time for people to face that fact. He's just evil, that's all there is to it
im 4 minutes in and his first argument is a blatant strawman argument. Maybe this will get better but im dubious
LOL, MLK Jr. would absolutely not be okay with Israel's occupation of Palestine, god damn is that a reach. He probably would say Israel has a right to exist but holy shit that was wayyyy before the West Bank looks as it does today.
people in this thread on multiple occasions have said Israel doesn’t have a right to exist. Don’t know what to tell you
You might be confusing posters saying that Isreal doesn’t have a right to exist as a secular state that subjugates minorities with a blanket statement regarding existence
Are those posters Martin Luther King Jr? What in the hell does that have to do with my statement specifically and only about a civil rights leader?
I honestly think Israel has a right to exist, I want a two-state solution. I think the US also did the exact same thing to Native Americans that Israel is currently doing to Palestinians. We gave them shitty reservations and destroyed their lives, those that remained.
As secular states that subjugates minorities? No, and I do believe that MLK had a big issue with the subjugation piece
Illinihockey there are some quotes in this article attributed to MLK stating that Isreal should give up conquered land. And also a position his daughter takes indicating he shouldn’t be brought up in this current genocide: https://www.motherjones.com/politics/2023/11/martin-luther-king-jr-mlk-israel-palestine-1967-video/
Bernice King Corrects Amy Schumer Over MLK Social Media Post: “He Would Call for Israel’s Bombing of Palestinians to Cease” https://www.hollywoodreporter.com/n...king-amy-schumer-israel-palestine-1235633953/
This man watched an entire video that describes the way he moves and acts, called the video bullshit AND THEN PROCEEDED TO DO EXACTLY WHAT THE VIDEO SAID HE'D DO I fucking love it Almost as bad as rulethirty telling me that Rwandan genocide was clearly "Too black" for me to care about it yesterday
Video posted includes a standard quote about white liberals. It’s not using MLk as a weapon to make points against Isreal. It’s about the white liberals
… I think for the ultimate peace and security of the situation it will probably be necessary for Israel to give up this conquered territory because to hold on to it will only exacerbate the tensions and deepen the bitterness of the Arabs Which they did, they gave back the Sinai to Egypt in exchange for peace. They pulled out of Gaza in 2005 in hopes of peace and Hamas was elected and have bombarded them with rockets for 15 years. Dr. King was right.
I’ve said from the start settler violence and settlers in the West Bank are the biggest obstacle to peace. Im glad Biden is taking action to sanction violent settlers in the West Bank.
Settler violence is state sanctioned and flies in the face of you continuing to point to action in 2005
2005 was the start of a peace process which got us to 2008 which was the closest there’s ever been to a Palestinian state. That was the chance that was missed and now here we are
Next time we get the bright idea to airdrop supplies for some sort of publicity stunt, maybe make sure it doesn't kill people.
I think MLK was assassinated in 1968 so we should probably not try and make him speak for a present day event.
https://www.timesofisrael.com/liveb...gency-employees-to-falsely-admit-hamas-links/ Tldr Israel tortured members of unrwa to get them to say they were Hamas or took part in 10/7