Realignment: The ACC enters the Suck Zone

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  1. * J Y *

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    People don't believe it but we would much prefer not to leave. Not speaking about the fans of course.
     
  2. Futureman

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    I know someone close to the board of regents and #1 is true unless those teams come from the power 5
     
  3. * J Y *

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    Well yea obv
     
  4. dallasdawg

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    So you're saying #1 is not true...
     
  5. Futureman

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    I thought it was implied that A) it all changes if a power 5 wants to join and B) that ain't happening. Apparently I have to spell that out. My mistake.
     
  6. dallasdawg

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    I wouldn't rule out B
     
  7. * J Y *

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    I think there's a lot more to shake out from here. The LHN is obviously a stop gap. I don't think anyone knows what the future looks like, and adding a few non p5 teams to the Big 12 doesn't bring anything into focus far out.
     
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  8. GoodForAnother

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    Kansas doesn't go anywhere without our permission fwiw
     
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  9. Taques

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    kick out baylor, add byu, send sultry photographs to nebraska and a&m to entice them to come back

    taques for big 12 commish
     
  10. dump

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    No fuck off bitch
     
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  11. dump

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    People dont think that Texas doesnt want to leave?

    :lolwut:
     
  12. * J Y *

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    Yes there's a clear line of thinking that Texas is driving the demise of the big 12.
     
  13. Futureman

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    It's not necessarily Texas but it most assuredly is the LHN
     
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  14. dump

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    well yeah Texas is the cancer of the Big 12

    but it doesn't want to leave because no other conference will allow it to do whatever the fuck that it wants like the Big 12 does
     
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  15. NilesIrish

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    The ACC beckons, Swarbrick is already dragging his nuts on them. Why not Texas?
     
  16. dome foam

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    I'm pretty sure Texas goes to the acc. Follow around nd like little puppies. at least basketball will be fun.
     
  17. Nostradumass

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    the ACC will roll over for them in terms of football, but Duke and UNC have bigger dicks to swing around when it's time to talk basketball.
     
  18. IanBoyd

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    From a supposed insider in Cinci

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    expansion to 12 without BYU but includes Memphis... :killme:
     
  19. jokewood

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    "Welcome to the Big XII Championship Game, sponsored by Dr. Pepper and Skyline Chili. When you're in Big XII country, you know it's Skyline time."
     
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  20. IanBoyd

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    Oh cougar high...

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  21. Taques

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    meanwhile in reality - espn & fox executives: "who are the houston cougars"
     
  22. OHW

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    Jason Williams@jwilliamscincy
    Source: BYU Big 12's No. 1 overall. Oklahoma wants Cincy. Texas of course wants Houston. Don't be surprised if compromise is Cincy & Houston
     
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  23. VaxRule

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    lol
    Compromise = OU & Texas do whatever they want.
     
  24. NineteenNine

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    why would OU want Cincy? That shit makes no sense.
     
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  25. Blu Tang Clan

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    A new market to make the league more attractive for everyone else once OU decides to leave? Who knows.
     
  26. Mix

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    Are the presidents friends? It makes no sense otherwise.
     
  27. herb.burdette

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    My guess is that it has something to do with the Twitter account being jwilliamscincy.
     
  28. Taques

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    my sources tell me that oklahoma wants florida international but texas wants tulane so they will compromise and add troy
     
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  29. dump

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    no one wants TMB hotbed UCF???

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  30. Where Eagles Dare

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    You can have dump back. His basketball skillz don't fit in the SEC
     
  31. Shock Linwood

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    In your wildest dreams you couldn't afford Tulane, the Harvard of the South.
     
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  32. steamengine

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    BREAKING: National LGBT groups are urging the Big 12 to drop BYU from consideration over alleged discrimination.
     
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  33. bingbing

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    The gays really have it out for The Big 12 now that their Aggies are no longer in the conference.
     
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  34. Mix

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    Between honor code issues after Baylor and this BYU is definitely out.
     
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  35. texasraider

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    Let's just make it clear the the LGBT community has no issues with Texas Tech University

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  36. jhooked

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  37. Taques

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    redraiderhitlerdidnothingwrongsports.com is handling this really poorly
     
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  38. Nostradumass

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  39. steamengine

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    http://www.espn.com/college-footbal...ion-candidates-actually-bolster-football-play

    Houston, BYU especially would add to Big 12's athletics
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    Among the knocks this summer against Big 12 expansion has been that bringing in a school from outside the traditional Power 5 would just dilute the league on the field.

    Which would seem to make sense.

    After all, one program that is outside the Big 12, for example, has won just six games in the past three seasons. It hasn't finished a season ranked since 2003 and has enjoyed a double-digit winning season just once, well, ever.

    That particular profile, however, doesn't square up with that of Big 12 expansion hopefuls BYU or Houston. Nor does it match Central or South Florida.

    In fact, it doesn't even fit Tulane.

    The school in question is Purdue, obviously not an expansion candidate, but a member of the Big Ten since before Teddy Roosevelt became president. And on football reputation alone, the Boilermakers don't stack up against many of the candidates the Big 12 is considering for expansion.

    Several points do, however, hold up when arguing against Big 12 expansion.

    Proximity and logistics, for one. Cincinnati; Orlando, Florida; and Provo, Utah, are all a thousand-plus miles from the Big 12 offices in Dallas. Such a marriage would create travel and scheduling complications for the conference.

    Specific candidates have their distinct downsides off the field, as well. Memphis doesn't boast a strong academic reputation. Connecticut struggles to draw fans to its stadium. BYU doesn't compete on Sundays and now has LGBT groups protesting its candidacy over the school's honor code.

    But the premise that expansion would absolutely dilute the Big 12 product on the field doesn't hold much water.

    Look no further than last week's Associated Press all-time college football rankings. Instead of simply falling back on conventional perceptions, the AP relied solely on statistics and used poll appearances, No. 1 rankings and AP championships to compile its list.

    As a result, BYU came in at No. 34 on the AP ranking, which placed the Cougars ahead of 32 Power 5 programs. At 49th, Houston was slotted ahead of 19 Power 5 schools.

    As the AP poll underscored, BYU and Houston, especially, have thrived on the field, both in the past and in the present -- including relative to many of their Power 5 cohorts.

    Since 1980, only Ohio State, Oklahoma, Nebraska, Florida State, Florida and Miami have won more games than BYU, and the Buckeyes (first), Sooners (second), Cornhuskers (sixth), Seminoles (ninth), Gators (10th) and Hurricanes (13th) all placed in the top 15 of the AP's all-time ranking. BYU also captured the national championship in 1984 -- something just 29 other schools have ever accomplished in the history of the sport.

    But even as college football autonomy has produced a wider gap between the Power 5 and everyone else financially in recent years, BYU has remained stout. Over the past decade, the Cougars have collected wins over Oregon, Utah, TCU, Arizona, UCLA, Washington, Oklahoma, Oregon State, Ole Miss, Washington State, Georgia Tech, Texas, Virginia, Cal and Nebraska.

    By comparison, the Boilermakers have only two wins over ranked opponents in that span. Fellow Big Ten member Illinois claims just four. Minnesota has three. Indiana has two. And Maryland and Rutgers have yet to record such a victory since joining the Big Ten.

    Conversely, Houston has four top-25 victories in 2015 alone, capped with a 38-24 romp over ninth-ranked Florida State in the Chick-fil-A Peach Bowl in December.

    That's not the only area the Big 12 expansion candidates stack up well.

    During the past decade, Houston, South Florida, Central Florida, BYU, Cincinnati and Boise State have all been ranked in the top 10 of the polls at least once.

    Neither Duke, Syracuse, North Carolina State, Wake Forest nor Virginia can claim such a distinction from the ACC. The same goes for Washington, Washington State and Colorado in the Pac-12.

    Shortly after the Big 12 announced it would explore expansion last month and that it had authorized commissioner Bob Bowlsby to begin negotiating with prospective candidates, Oklahoma president and Big 12 board chairman David Boren listed five core criteria through which the league would gauge candidates: competitiveness of the athletic programs, academic standards, fan bases, access to media markets and overall reputations.

    Through that prism, every expansion candidate exudes glaring negatives, which is why all of them remain available despite several previous rounds of conference realignments that could have placed them in the Power 5. Ultimately, this is why the Big 12 has endured such a difficult time agreeing to expand. And why agreeing on candidates could prove to be even more challenging.

    But simply based on competitiveness, the Big 12 need not fret. Expansion candidates won't necessarily dilute the conference on the field.

    At least no more than Colorado has the Pac-12.

    Or NC State, the ACC.

    Or the Boilermakers, for the majority of a century now, the Big Ten.
     
  40. Bo Pelinis

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    Wait...Purdue is shitty? At football?

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  41. Tobias

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    that was some serious shade thrown at nc state seemingly out of nowhere
     
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  42. Mix

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    I know UCF and UH have finished top 10 recently. Did Cincy in the year they got crushed in their bowl after being like #3?
     
  43. steamengine

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    I found it more indicting that almost 50% of the big10 is hot garbage. But who cares, $$$
     
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  44. jokewood

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    Worst expansion article ever written.
     
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  45. Blu Tang Clan

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    You really have a hate boner for the Big Ten.
     
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  46. dallasdawg

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    hey at least they're not purdue!

    journalism
     
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  47. TC

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    Maybe OU should let Texas walk and stay put and rule the Big 12 like Miami used to in the Big East
     
  48. Mix

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    Would you rather be AD at Purdue or Boise? I would think the money would be better than the winning in that position.