I am just gonna keep telling myself that either a) Melisandre brings him back or b) come at me bro white walker king guy resurrects him from afar. I was waiting for his eyes to turn blue but it didn't happen
Tyrion is the clear #1 on my power rankings after tonight. At least he has a while before the next season
I had this big grin on my face through the entire Tyrone/Varys conversation. Varys is too awesome to have been gone for as long as he was.
I say Jon is coming back. There's no other reason for Melisandre to be at the wall. There isn't a single character worth a shit there now. Stannis obviously wasn't this chosen one true king or whatever she was talking about in season 2 with the flaming sword scene on the beach. Has to be Jon. The red God will save him and somehow he, Bran, and Arya are going to fuck some WW up with the help of Daenerys and the dragons. Maybe Dany and Jon will fuck once it's over and spawn a bunch of dragonwolves or some shit and sit the iron throne together.
Entertainment Weekly posted an interview right after the episode with Kit Harington where he said he's done and that it was the fucktard showrunners who made the call. However the same article also said that he's under contract for next year. I honestly hope it's all bullshit to keep people guessing for the next 10 months.
One thing that is starting to annoy me is how much the recaps at the beginning of each episode are giving away. As soon as they showed something with the Mountain in tonight's recap, it was pretty obvious that he was going to make an appearance in the episode.
They can't and shouldn't bring him back. Its one thing to hate the choice they made, but its another to want this to go full soap opera. Also, and maybe this just because I haven't read the books, but Stannis was the least developed major character in the show. Until he burned his daughter did anyone have any feelings on him one way or the other? There are characters I love (Tyrion, Arrya) and characters I hate (Cersei, Sansa), but there shouldn't be a character that I'm totally indifferent to. That was Sannis.
So why exactly did Melissandre not help Stannis? I get that half of his army left but her magic shit still could have fucked up the Boltons, no?
If the red lady isn't there to bring jon back then I don't know what the point in her coming back is, so I'm going to keep believing jon is lying about being actually dead until they prove otherwise. And once the prove otherwise I'm going to quit watching cause who gives a shit
That's not really how her shit works. She can do the shadow babies and shit like that but she can't just wipe out an army. She see visions in the flames and interprets those visions as things to come so she's kind of like a fortune teller with a nice rack and a shadow pooping pussy.
They cgi'd cersei? Holy shit it looked 100% real. Too bad drogon's cgi fighting off the soth was shit
Or they end up crippled and find two more Hodors who carry them and their storyline around aimlessly through the rest of the show.
If you read the books you like Stannis. It's how book readers didn't give a dusty fuck about Robb and his mom getting got at the Red Wedding. Catlin is the worst fucking character in the book and you end up hating Robb because he's only in her chapters. Stannis on the other hand is bad ass commander. I think the actor did a great job and because show watchers never connected with him that's just another testament to his portrayal. You shouldn't have an emotional connection to him. He doesn't have any emotions to connect with. He's burned his daughter, seen his wife die, saw a mounted army charging him with no hope of winning and he never once faltered. He is the rightful heir to the throne and he doesn't care if he fails he's still going to keep going for it regardless. He reminds me Leonaitis in that sense that it's not about the odds, it's about the principle.
She realized Stannis was a false prophet, and not this chosen warrior king who will defeat what is coming with the night/winter.
The dead rising and people being resurrected or surviving things that should kill you like being burned alive have happened constantly on this show. Maybe Jon isn't brought back but to say if he is then this show has turned soap opera is dumb. Similar shit has happened many times, it's just a part of this world. Could be missing some but so far Dany survives a Texas A&M sized bon fire. 100s of years old petrified dragon eggs hatch. Melisandre drinks a whole vial of poison. Thoros resurrects Beric Dondarrion multiple times. White creatures who bring death and winter with them raise the dead at will. Some kind of zombie The Mountain just picked up Cersei and carried her off after her walk of shame.
I guess now is a safe time to explain why Jon had to die to further his character. About a month back someone asked about the night's watch creed and it's underlying meaning. "Night gathers, and now my watch begins. It shall not end until my death. I shall take no wife, hold no lands, father no children. I shall wear no crowns and win no glory. I shall live and die at my post. I am the sword in the darkness. I am the watcher on the walls. I am the shield that guards the realms of men. I pledge my life and honor to the Night's Watch, for this night and all the nights to come." So the theory is that Jon had to die in order for him to take the next step in his journey. By dying, he is freeing himself from the rules of the Night's Watch. Jon is all about honor and doing the right thing. So now that we know Jon can potentially be resurrected, he now can move on from the Night's watch and unite the North and potentially all of Westeros... Or perhaps he stays dead.
FTR, there's plenty of reason for Melisandre to return to the Wall regardless of Jon. The whole reason she advised Stannis to go there was because she saw the Others and the wights in her flames, so she interpreted it as the Lord of Light showing her where the battle would be. Her motivation wasn't just to take Stannis to the Wall, it was to battle them dead folks and ice people.
to me it seemed like she had a "oh shit i dun goofed" moment when the guy told Stannis about the deserters and realized that maybe the visions of the Bolton's flags burning and stuff were related to Jon and not Stannis.
I was talking to Dan Weiss and he said Jon is really dead. But George R.R. Martin left open the possibility the character might not be dead in the books. And then that cast salary contract story came out last year and it had your name among those receiving raises for season six and an option on a seventh. So let me ask you: Is Jon really dead? This is my understanding of it. I had a sit-down with Dan and David, we did the Tony Soprano walk [letting an actor know they’re being whacked]. And they said, “Look, you’re gone, it’s done.” And as far as the salary thing goes, that angered me when that story came out. I don’t know where it came from, but it was inaccurate in many ways. It’s going to put questions into your head and into fans’ heads that things are not what they are. Quite honestly, I have never been told the future of things in this show, but this is the one time I have. They sat me down and said, “This is how it is.” If anything in the future isnot like that, then I don’t know about it – it’s only in David and Dan and George’s heads. But I’ve been told I’m dead. I’m dead. I’m not coming back next season. So that’s all I can tell you, really.
I don't think they cgi'd it. I know during the shooting they were going to have to change the location because the church didn't want her naked outside of it.
I thought it was confirmed she had a body double, and they had the signs of a body double - hair over her face (obstruction), plenty of shoulders up vs shoulders down shots, etc. plus, Lena Headey is not built like that.
Look at the fucking tits on the body as it walked through the streets and look at the tits on Lena Headey in the pic I posted on this page. It was obvious from the start that it wasn't her body
Not everyone that reads the books likes Stannis. Some of us never understood the love affair other book readers had with "Stannis the Mannis"
As a book reader, I didn't like him at first, and then when I began to associate his character with show Stannis (and the actor playing him), he grew on me. Until he turned into a psycho religious zealot that is.