Season 5 - Show Thread. The Unsullied. Keep it that way

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  1. ugafish

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    Yep, there is a lot of resurrection on this show, and there are multiple ways snow can come back in his current location without it being absurd.
     
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  3. Nug

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    It was a body double, apparently Headley is pregnant IRL and was showing a bump at the time they were supposed to film that scene.
     
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  4. OTM

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    And you mostly see Stannis is Davos's chapters and Davos is the fucking man.
     
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    thought miley cyrus was a decent choice for a double
     
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    This crossed my mind. They wake up and bran is just chilling there. House Stark, Lords of the Cripples.
     
  7. Clown Baby

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    This makes zero fucking sense to me. It was an emotional scene and a great one but it serves zero purpose in the larger story. Why invest so much time showing Jon at the wall just to kill him off without him having a greater involvement in the future of Westeros? Zero fucking sense.
     
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    All i know is the next Lord Commander better watch his back. Last two have both been killed by the nights watch
     
  9. 47 straight

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    99% sure he's coming back. Will be 99% not surprised if he doesn't.

    I just think it's really, really dumb for the story's sake if they kill him off right now.
     
  10. Clown Baby

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    I hate how they attempt to rationalize it with these "no one is safe" and "all men die" slogans. This isn't east fucking Baltimore where that's actually true, it's a fantasy world where a protector of humanity is necessary. It just feels like shock value for shock value's sake.
     
  11. two

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  12. Clown Baby

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    That's a dumb fucking mantra too unless he plans on using actual symbolism to tell the story and not contrived plot devices like shadow babies.
     
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  13. The Fuck Lion

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    Those sneaky show writers. I agree that Jon will survive.
     
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  14. je ne suis pas ici

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  15. Hoss Bonaventure

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    Stannis? Stannis is because of the illegitimacy of Joff, Tommen, and Myrcella being Jamie's children and not Robert's true heirs. He never legitimized any of his bastards so the crown would pass to the next male heir which would be the eldest brother.
     
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  16. bigCUM

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    There is no doubt in my mind that Jon is still alive. It would be way to spoilery for anyone to confirm that he is still alive.
     
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  17. je ne suis pas ici

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    good point, forgot that the bastard hasnt been legitimized
     
  18. zeberdee

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    still alive or not going to stay dead?
     
  19. Hoss Bonaventure

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    Yeah, the king has to legitimize them for them to become heirs. Like Roose did for Ramsey. Jon Arryn and Stannis were snooping around together when Jon found the bastard's hair thing that Ned discovered following their trail. It's why Stannis left the small council and bounced back to Dragonstone when Jon got murdered because he knew he'd probably be next.
     
  20. GuyOnA_Buffalo

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    Of course he's dead. For how long, who knows?
     
  21. bigCUM

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    My prediction is it'll probably have something to do with that ritual Melisandre did with Shireen dying causing Jon to be resurrected.
     
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  22. Pelican

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    Jon's mom is undoubtedly someone important and not just some "tavern whore." The more I think about this the more positive I am that he is going to be brought back in some capacity.

    Wasn't that one of the last things Ned said to Jon? "Next time we meet I'll tell you about your mother" - or something to that effect?



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  23. Hoss Bonaventure

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    That's exactly what he said to him.
     
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  24. Clown Baby

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    Season 6 filming generally starts in July so it's either going to leak in the next few months that he's in Belfast or that he's off somewhere else working on films
     
  25. The Fuck Lion

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    Melisandre and Davos going to work together to nurse Jon back next season. Using magic, etc.
     
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    young Pelican is on the path to enlightenment.
     
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  28. jayhawkmpa

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    Sam is not the character that GRRM self identifies with.
     
  29. Hoss Bonaventure

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    Before the finale, we were discussing this in the book thread of whether or not Jon gets got in the finale or wait till the beginning of season 6 so that what you mentioned wouldn't be a spoiler. We don't know what happens to Jon in book 6 the same as we don't know what happens to him in season 6 or if he's even in it at all, meaning, even if he is "brought back" from the dead it may not happen next season/book. We very well could have to wait till book/season 7 if there ever is an answer.
     
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  30. Killy Me Please

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  31. jayhawkmpa

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    Bull shit! Speak for your self. I always hated that mother fucker. It was never about the principle, and it was always about Stannis. He was ever delusional and full of shit.
     
  32. jayhawkmpa

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    Thank you sir! Fuck that prick! But, but is he still the Mannis?
     
  33. Pelican

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    jayhawkmpa this shit really gets you excited, doesn't it?
     
  34. jayhawkmpa

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    Davos is the real mannis. He is what made that team go. If Stannis was the leader that he thought he was, then he would have been smart enough to take Davos' solid advice more often while also building up his confidence rather than bringing it down.
     
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  35. jayhawkmpa

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    Nah, it makes me sleepy.

    Do you have a point to make to me?
     
  36. Clown Baby

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    This is a possibility that I think is being overlooked. Ideally, I think everyone would want Jon's death to be addressed in next season's premiere. I'm not so sure that happens, but the good thing about this realm is that he doesn't have to stay dead for the rest of the story. I just hope that this isn't it for Jon Snow, and that Sam isn't the one going around trying to collect Valyrian steel swords and warning people about the Wights because no one is going to listen to him.
     
  37. LeonardWashington

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    I think Sam is going to go into that huge library he is always going on about and find some old ass book that's going to tell him the way to kill the white walkers
     
  38. IAHusk

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    imo
     
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  39. LeonardWashington

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    they ain't gonna have time to smith 50,000 valyrian steel swords imo. I think it'll be some other method....maybe involving that stuff but not making it themselves
     
  40. IAHusk

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    I might be wrong but I'm pretty sure it's the magic that makes Valyrian steel special, not necessarily the forging process. I'm sure the forging process is probably a little different but if that's the case then I don't think it would take that long to create enough needed.
     
  41. Fidelio

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    that goddamn bastard, gendry, will make at least a few of them with his king's blood and blacksmithing skills
     
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    Maybe he learns how to make gatling guns that shoot dragonglass shards and it will be like the final battle of last samurai where this superior technology obliterates every white walker in its path.
     
  44. Hoss Bonaventure

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    We had a huge question left unanswered with Bran's storyline and he wasn't even in this season.
     
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  45. Hoss Bonaventure

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    There isn't anyone alive that can make Valyrian steel. All of that was lost in the Doom of Valaryia. What's in the world is all that is left. The guy Tywin found that could re-forge it was one of the few people on the world that can even do that. No one can make it though.
     
  46. Killy Me Please

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    According to kit he's dead. At least thats what he was told.

    http://www.ew.com/article/2015/06/14/game-thrones-jon-snow-really-dead
     
  47. dathalfnukkahd

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    The steel kills the WWs. But isn't the problem also going to be the mass dead army of wights? You don't need Valyrian steel to kill those fuckers.
     
  48. pearl

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    Nope, just Dragon fire
     
  49. IAHusk

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    Yeah I get that. What I'm trying to say is, because there are still a few people that can reforge Valyrian steel, the forging process isn't the biggest obstacle to creating more. It's the recipe, the magic/spells specifically, required to make the steel that is the key to making more.
     
  50. Hoss Bonaventure

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    All of that is gone in the Doom. All of Valryia's secrets were lost. No one outside of Valaryia could make it and they didn't tell anyone. It's like their roads and everything else they did. No one has done it since because no one out side of Valaryia ever knew how. It's why everyone knows so little about Valaryia or even the Doom. The Targaryians were the only ones that survived and they didn't make their weapons and they only had like 4 total I believe. That's why they're pretty much priceless to the point that the Lannisters couldn't buy one after they lost their house one.