Sports Card and Memorabilia thread

Discussion in 'The Mainboard' started by FightingCock, Dec 7, 2018.

  1. OpieT

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    Thanks for the myslabs mention. I didn't know about the site and ended up making some decent deals on there.
     
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  2. southlick

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  3. seanofthedead86

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    That's neat but not doing it for patch cards sucks. Huge market of fake patch cards out there.
     
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  4. JRodMK1

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    Spot on. The amount of swapped patch cards has to be over half of the fake cards on the market. There are a lot of backdoor 90's inserts that are fake but the amount of fake patches that I see on Instagram is astounding. Also a good time to remind people that grading companies only grade the card itself. They don't authenticate patches. So just because a card is graded doesn't mean the patch is legitimate. If you're interested in a patch and aren't sure if it is real of not, there is an IG account that is very good at this stuff - cardporn.
     
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  5. southlick

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  6. backinblack23

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    Damn, that’s a brand car there.
     
  7. JRodMK1

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    FIFY

    I'm obviously late to the party but I am really loving MySlabs.com for selling. The fees :ohgosh:
     
  8. cheddarisbetter

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    well. what is the grade on it PSA?
     
  9. JRodMK1

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    The serial number on the Honus... is that really the second card they've ever graded?
     
  10. Drown ‘Em

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    I think the potentially is about the premium, not that it’s the second card they graded. But his wording isn’t clear.
     
  11. JRodMK1

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    Yes, he's referring to the premium. The wording could be much better.

    On another note, it appears that the hysteria around the card market has subsided and we are getting back to price levels (of non-premium players) that we saw prior to 2020. My guess is that all the new money got their asses handed to them and all the "influencers" have moved onto NFTs and Crypto.
     
  12. cheddarisbetter

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    I was being a fresh coming in with a lame joke. Sorry it was not clear
     
  13. seanofthedead86

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    MySlabs is moving into the raw card market as well.
     
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  14. Andy Reocho

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    Still can't find any good retail :(
     
  15. burnttatertot

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    didn't really think their name through
     
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  16. Shunface

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    I gave up.

    Nothing is ever available that’s not collegiate or un-licensed.
     
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  17. Andy Reocho

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    Yea I only seem to get retail to open if my brother finds some, or if I get really lucky online. Oh well
     
  18. seanofthedead86

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    Lol. This was an argument people were making on the Facebook page. It would be nice to have a marketplace to sell raw cards with seller protection without paying 12.5% in fees.
     
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  19. backinblack23

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    Seems like we are getting lower single card prices, and some retail prices are down too but the hobby boxes are outrageous yet. I'm seeing hobby boxes of Mosaic going for $800-$1000 and they are complete waste of money, a few base rookie Qb's and a couple colored vets and shit autos, that would all resell for around $200 at most. I will say I have noticed less second hand sellers of retail and more product on the shelf, it's not the premium stuff but there is stuff on the shelves. It still baffles me the prices people are paying to have them rip stuff live. I saw Mosaic bbl cello's getting ripped at $35 a piece when Target had them for weeks at $15 or blasters being ripped for $65 when I snagged 3 for $30 a piece. I'm thinking of trying to dump a lot of cards before the market crashes and everyone wants out.
     
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  20. backinblack23

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    Right, you can only sell cards, breaks have a separate category. 6-8% in fees and all case disputes are actually looked at and handled properly.
     
  21. BleedinGreen

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    After finally going through the rest of my cards, I have one more stupid question.

    When do you get a card authenticated? Internet seems to say…depends but for instance I have an old Donruss Griffey Jr. card that’s on eBay for between $15-20 ungraded and then listed for $450 for a gem mint version. Seems an insane gulf between the two and obviously what it’s listed for isn’t what it’s worth but would this be an example of it being worth it to get a grade?
     
  22. burnttatertot

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    After you give it a proper trimming.


    If you've got cards that have been sitting around for 30 years there's virtually zero shot of it getting a 10. I leave the grading game up to the more experienced.
     
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  23. burnttatertot

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    To elaborate a bit most of these older cards from the 80's and 90's have been sleeved or taken in and out of pages/books enough that even if the corners and centering look good to the naked eye, it's likely to have issues with at least the surface once under magnification.
     
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  24. Escanor

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    I sent in a order around a year ago of 35 Kobe’s and Jordans. I don’t have much hope because I had no clue what I was doing. If I Pop anything good it’ll be pure luck. Only good thing about it was I sent it right before they switched the price so I think it was 12 a card.
     
  25. BleedinGreen

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    Yeah, the more I read about what constitutes the grading the more I realized that none of that likely applies to me.

    Thanks all for entertaining my inane questions, first card just went up on ebay so we'll see how it goes...
     
  26. Andy Reocho

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    Don’t grade cards. It’s all a racket.
     
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  27. backinblack23

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    Amen
     
  28. texasraider

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    This is a terrible opinion
     
  29. Andy Reocho

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    I mean, to each their own, but with the costs involved, I don’t think it’s worth it on 95% of cards
     
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  30. seanofthedead86

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    Yeah. I enjoy sending cards in to grade but you have to be real picky. It either has to be a card you want in a holder for your collection or a short print/desirable parallel to increase the card value.
     
  31. texasraider

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    Well obviously. You have to account for the ROI just like any other investment

    but there are cards that are $30 raw that are $200 at a PSA 9 and $700 as a PSA 10

    and it doesn’t take an expert to look at a card with good lighting and figure out if it has a legitimate shot at a 10
     
  32. Andy Reocho

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    Ehh. But that doesn’t mean it will 10
     
  33. texasraider

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    Right. But if a 9 is still profitable and you understand that everything is a gamble, it’s worth the shot
     
  34. Andy Reocho

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    To each their own. I’ve graded one card in my life, and I think that’ll be the last one. I’ve just seen too much bullshit regarding grading the last year.5
     
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  35. burnttatertot

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    The grift continues

     
  36. Baseballman86

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    So I've been doing a ton of eBay lots and single cards over the last month to just get some money back. Let's say 50 packages a week, most using ebays new PWE label which has tracking, but not USPS tracking. Been dropping these at various USPS drop boxes or in person this whole time, suddenly maybe 20% of them have just vanished. Never even scanned in. Come to find out, there's one specific drop box which is definitely supposed to be active that is just a black hole. Packages go in and are never heard from again.

    As im sure you can guess, trying to get somebody from the post office on the phone to report this is about as easy as me calling up Elon Musk right now.
     
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  37. JRodMK1

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    Dealing with USPS is the fucking worst. It is absolutely impossible to get in touch with a human. Once you finally do, they give you the runaround and try to dump you off to another department. This is why I always ship with UPS/FedEx if I sell a card for more than $500. Best of luck man.
     
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  38. JRodMK1

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    This guy sucks. SCI is the worst. I wonder how much money they have lost their "customers" in the last two years. It's shameful.
     
  39. JRodMK1

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    You aren't wrong. It used to be so easy to make money buying raw --> grading --> selling. Buying ultra modern cards with high pop rates basically ensured that you couldn't lose money. Now that the cost of grading is sky high and so many people know about grading cards (and the potential $ gain) the amount of good, raw cards that haven't been graded is few and far between. Even if you get in PSA's grading queue (5 cards @ $50/per) what's the cheapest card one would be willing to send? Right now I wouldn't send anything in valued less than $250.

    The days of the grading flip are over. It just requires such a big investment now. If you buy a $300 card, by the time you grade it and sell it you're going to be ~$375-400 into the card with grading fees and selling fees. If it doesn't Gem you're probably losing.
     
  40. Andy Reocho

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    Good.

    Nothing makes me laugh more than seeing folks sell slabbed cards for <$15. Folks ruined/destroyed grading over the last couple years
     
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  41. seanofthedead86

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    If you want a scam, look up ISA grading.
     
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  42. JRodMK1

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    Everyone's favorite eBay Power Seller Probstein is now slipping ISA Grading business cards in his packages.

    To cliff note ISA: They've been shilling auctions of their own graded cards to create fake comps. They're then running with screenshots of those fake, shilled auctions and say "we sell for similar to PSA Gems!" to market themselves.

    Also, their CEO and Head Grader, Jason Koonce (otiasports), is a known card trimmer throughout the card community. He was caught several years ago and somehow people have forgotten about that and this guy gets a pass because he is rich and has connections.
     
  43. seanofthedead86

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    And Instagram accounts with large followings are now posting pictures of graded ISA cards and going "Look, it's the next big thing" and getting called out for it.
     
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  44. Andy Reocho

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    Anyone play/collect any of the trading card games? I’m intrigued by MetaZoo
     
  45. Fat Drunk & Stupid

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    My daughter has a lot of pokemon, but does she do anything with it? hell naw.

    Just more shit for me to sort.
     
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  46. seanofthedead86

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    I play MTG Arena and every now and then open collector's packs.
     
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  47. UKupNorth

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    Where are my experts at? Thoughts on authenticity? TIA!

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  48. Shunface

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    Complete non-expert opinion but that looks maybe to clean.
     
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  49. backinblack23

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    Looks fake, the arrow in the upper right Fleer logo is too close in color to the ribbon if next to it. Also the Name Plate on the front looks too blurry. Just my opinion though.