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Discussion in 'TMB Book Club' started by The Blackfish, Jun 28, 2015.
Because Michael Kramer and Kate Reading take a long damn time to tell a story
Just finished Words of Radiance. Just fucking awesome.
I started Warbreaker and it's making me realize how long Oathbringer is. I've read for about an hour a 1/2 and I'm like 10% through it. If this was Oathbringer I would be about 2%.
Recognize any characters yet
The sword definitely. I know Azure is either Siri or Vivenna based on the changing hair. Siri just got to the God King's temple so Vivenna and Siri haven't been fully developed yet and I'm not sure which is Azure. I'm going to guess Vivenna. Vivenna so far seems very Jasnah like.
ill let you figure out which one she is. Also remember she is searching for someone in Oathbringer that both Kaladin and Adolin know
Pictures from the VR of Parshendi and chasmfiend
Parshendi look nothing like what I imagined.
That game looks so sick.
Yeah not how I pictured them either
Started the prologue reread and man, not a fan of the new format.
Anyone else following this?
Yeah I don’t like it either, still following though
What is the prologue reread you guys are doing?
Tor's Re-Read of Oathbringer. Here's the link to the Prologue review.
Oathbringer is a long read. Reading these three books back to back to back probably isn't ideal as I feel its all I've read in 2018.
I'm like 800 pages in and I'm sure its a slow build to the finish but its a chore right now.
This is how I feel with Malazan books
They are a chore at times but the end is well worth the slog.
It took me too long to read it but I finnally finished it. That lats battle with the constant switching of PoV was amazing. I couldn't out it down.
Started the series in late October and just finished Oathbringer (January - March is a dead reading time for me). Love this series and am really glad I looked at the Book Club board.
Reading through this thread, I obviously don't know a lot because I haven't read any of the other books. I am probably going to take a break for a few books, but what other Brandon Sanderson books would you all recommend and in what order?
Recommend all of the Cosmere books. Read the Mistborn trilogy first
-Mistborn Era 1 Trilogy(Final Empire, Well of Ascension, Hero of Ages)
-Mistborn Era 2 (Alloy of Law, Shadows of Self, Bands of Mourning, Secret History (technically not part of this sub series but you want to read it after Bands of Mourning)
Various short stories too that you can google but make sure to read The Emperor’s Soul it’s the best fantasy short story I’ve ever read.
There really is no reading order when it comes to Warbreaker, Elantris and the Mistborn series, other than reading the Mistborn series in order obviously
Started off reading wheel of Time and found Brandon Sanderson that way. This dude might be the best fantasy writer on the market right now. Has anyone read his other stuff? I kind of worried it might be like taking a step backwards in quality and not sure if want...
Currently reading dune
All of his writing is excellent.
This thread is chock full of discussing his other works. You’ll find pretty much everyone likes all of them. Start with Mistborn, build toward The Stormlight Archive.
I guess that's the problem, I already read stormligjt and worried about taking the step back. It does seem like everyone likes his stuff. I'll get around to one of them after dune
Stormlight is considered his best but the other works are certainly no slouches. Give Mistborn a try
Not to mention all his other works compliment Stormlight. Crossover characters, learn more about the Cosmere, etc...
Stormlight Book 4 Update #5
Hello, all. Time for another update on your book. (See the last update HERE, if you are interested.)
This post WILL have Oathbringer spoilers, and slight spoilers for Book Four. So if you are concerned about those things, here is the no spoiler update: I just passed the 50% mark! The book is looking good so far. Moshe had some very enthusiastic and positive things to say about the first chunk I sent him. I'm still hoping for a Christmas 2020 release.
Now, for slight spoilers. At this point, I've finished the second chunk of the book. This means I've finished viewpoint cluster two, for those who are following along. If you aren't, or if this confuses you, I whipped up a little visualization.
This book, as I've said before, starts with all the characters together--then splits into three groups of viewpoints. The first group is the largest, and the most involved, with five viewpoints characters. Two of these, however, will have only a few viewpoints (and one might just appear in other viewpoints, save for an interlude.) Really, this is the story of three characters, and forms the core arc of the book.
The second viewpoint cluster, which is the one I've now finished, follows two characters on a very involved--but more narrowly focused--plot. The final cluster takes two remaining viewpoint characters, and touches lightly upon what they are doing, without going into quite as much depth as the other two groups.
Now that group two is finished, I have turned my attention to group one--the most difficult of the sequences to write. This should take me a few more months. After that, I'll write group three and the interludes.
One issue I've been having with the book is the flashbacks. I'm not 100% sure they'll work the way I planned them to. In that case, it's possible I will toss them and doing them from Venli's viewpoint instead. I'm excited to write more Eshonai, but there's a real chance that the viewpoints will feel like fluff, as Venli is the one who knew the secrets happening behind the scenes among the Listeners at the time.
This might be a place where I have to kill my darlings and just do what makes the most sense for the narrative, even though the other way (with Eshonai having the flashbacks) always appealed to me from a "this is less expected" angle.
I can't say for certain, and my gut says that--in abstract--more people would enjoy reading about Eshonai as a character, but would find the chapters a little boring and out of place. Venli flashbacks would, instead, be filled with cosmere mysteries and answers that will be more interesting.
We'll see how it goes. I haven't written the flashbacks yet, so we'll need to see about them as I write.
Otherwise, how do we look? Well, my trip to France and Spain really took a bite out of my writing time. We're hovering right at about 30k words behind (with 200k finished of a projected 400k.) 30k behind is roughly one month behind. (We've been about this far behind since I started on the book, as touring delays continue to eat up any progress I make catching up.) Hopefully, September will involve a lot of good writing time, as I don't have any trips planned except for Dragon*Con this weekend.
Of course, come October, it's back on tour. (France and Israel this time.) The goal is still to try to finish by January. Getting halfway took basically five months, however, and there are only four months left in the year. If I don't hit January for finishing, we're likely looking at a spring 2021 release.
As always, thank you for your patience and enthusiasm. Also, as always, I promise that I do consider these goals of when to finish only to be goals--not hardfast rules. I will take the time I need to make the book great, and if it comes down to delaying the book or releasing a novel that isn't ready, we WILL delay.
I will not be sending replies to this thread to my inbox, so there's a good chance I'll miss your comments. If I do, just let me say thank you again!
I love that man
Stormlight Book Four Update #6
Hey, all! Dropping in to give you another quick Stormlight Four update. (See the previous update here.) Though most of my team is gearing up for the Starsight launch in a few weeks, I’m buckling down for the final push to finish writing Stormlight Four.
I didn’t get a ton written during my tour last month, but I didn’t expect to. I did, however, have a little time--and I’ve focused lately on getting the last parts of the outline hammered together. There’s still some work to do on book five’s outline, but I’ve had the team move the outline progress bar to 100%--indicating that the book four outline is completely finished.
Right now, Parts One and Two of the book are done as well. Parts Three-Five have been finished for everything but the main, core viewpoint cluster. (So, if you’ve been following along, that means viewpoint clusters two and three are finished.) I’ve also done some work on the interludes, getting a nice chunk of those done, most notably the "through line" viewpoint for the Interludes.
Remaining to do are a handful of interludes and the core story for the second half of the book. Together, that should be around 100k words, though it’s possible I’ll go longer.
Now comes the toughest part of the push for me. I’ve got just under two months left before January first, which is the deadline by which I’ll need to have the rough draft done if we want to publish in 2020. Since the book is looking really good, and the outline is solid, I’m confident that we won’t run into any problems. By this point in a book (the 75% mark, which is where I am right now) I’m generally aware if the book will require any major edits or revisions. This one shouldn’t, which means if I do hit that deadline, we’re going to be in really good shape.
This means I need to write 100k(+) words in two months, with a book launch in the middle as well as two major holidays. So...we’ll see. I was wise enough to know ahead of time that I’d need these weeks for writing, so decided not to do a tour for Starsight. I hope everyone will support the book anyway; my publisher is really worried that by not doing a tour, we might be leaving the book without support.
I, however, am confident that the majority of my readers would rather have me working on Stormlight than traveling about trying to persuade you to buy Starsight. (I assume this is particularly true for those of you on this subreddit.) I’m not terribly worried; from the reception Skyward has gotten, the second book should do just fine. So other than the launch party (which should be quite the extravaganza) I’ll be keeping my attention on Stormlight.
As always, you can follow along via the progress bars on my website for more clarity. Also, Adam should be posting pictures there from my tour in Europe the next few weeks, along with some shots of me on the set of the Wheel of Time television show. (Assuming they ever get approved.)
I’ll try to keep you updated as the deadline approaches, but it’s likely the next big update you’ll get will come at the annual State of the Sanderson blog post on or around my birthday next month. This should also be the last reddit update until you get the "It's done" update, hopefully right before the end of the year. (And, if you'll forgive me, I'm unlikely to be answering a lot on Reddit these next few months--and likely won't be saying much in this thread either.)
As always, thanks for your support and enthusiasm. Journey before Destination!
Stormlight 4 release date announced. 11/17/20
Read that’s as 1/17/20 at first haha
19k words in a single day is just hard to comprehend
Figured I’d put this on here since it seems to be the most active Sanderson thread. Just finished the Mistborn trilogy through Audible. It was my first introduction to Sanderson and I definitely enjoyed it. My sister bought me the first three books in the Stormlight Archive so I’m diving straight in. I’ve read that Sanderson’s writing seems to make a jump from Mistborn to the Stormlight Archive. I know it sounds ridiculous but I’m just hoping I can finish these three beasts before the fourth book is released.
I found Stormlight to be harder to get in to because of its grander scope, but I don’t think the writing is too different.
Agree that Stormlight is harder to get into. The books are massive and there are sections for a couple hundred pages where nothing exciting is happening. Just keep going and it all pays off.
New artwork for Rhythym of War
Read this earlier today
Finished the interludes before the last part before Super Bowl, gonna finish up tomorrow after work.
On to Oathbringer.
I hate myself for getting this into another unfinished book series I’ll have to wait on, but I have full faith that Sanderson is the antithesis to GRRM and will pump out #5 in another couple years.
Thought this was the slowest of the three until
Battle at Thaylenah
Gave me the same feels as the final battle scene in Memory of Light the last book of Wheel of Time. Jumping from character to character with just awesome but meaningful things happening all connected to each other. Masterful writing.
725 pages into The Way of Kings and ready to start part four. Hoping to be finished in a couple of days.
Dalinar is my favorite character so far
The only time I've felt the book slog slightly is during the early Shallan chapters and some of the Kaladin chapters where nothing happens other than learning that... yes, things can get worse for Kaladin
There probably isn't a character that I want to learn more about than Szeth
Definitely breezing through the book as it has met all of my expectations.
Rhythm of War and Peace Talks in the same year