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Discussion in 'The Mainboard' started by Cronk, May 7, 2015.
I don’t get the hate on her. She doesn’t have stupid high ticket prices like Blink182. TM is the problem.
You spend too much time on Reddit
TM and demand as well. What were Blink182 prices?
We have to do something about Ticketmaster yall
Is Ticketmaster actually the problem? People pay the price. Labeling something a service fee vs rolling it into the ticket cost and paying out the artist less would be the solution.
why should it come out of the artists money? the talent that people actually are paying to see.
ticketmaster is gouging. their fees are not relative to the service they provide.
Because the artists negotiate the price. Taylor Swift doesn’t want people to think she is gouging the fans so she doesn’t charge what the market will bear. The all in cost is just some negotiated figure.
so are you saying that the artists has the ability to negotiate how much of a cut (call it the fees for simplicity sake) Ticketmaster takes?
Taylor is a big enough name that if she made it a priority she could disrupt the entire "big ticket" industry. It would be a lot of work and would probably piss off a ton of people, but she's proven she's willing to take on big legal fights for her definition of "what's right."
Ticketmaster/Live Nation seems to be a pretty fucked up monopoly that does not nothing but screws fans. It's really fucked up that someone can buy tickets and flip them for thousands seconds later simply by getting lucky according to their shitty algorithm. "True fans" deserve better and the middle men making that profit need to get taken down a notch. (hence all the vitriol directed at racer for bragging about it like an idiot).
If she wanted to take on the fight she could definitely make it better for the fans. Garth Brooks seemed to pull it off. I'm sure there was scalping, but forcing people to share phones and/or encrypted log ins seems like a pretty easy, positive step that Taylor could make. My assumption is she gets a pretty big check from Capital One/Ticketmaster etc to keep her mouth shut. And that sucks.
This has to be it. Live Nation/Ticketmaster knows Taylor is pretty much the one artist that could break them, so the deal they cut her must've been unfathomable.
I wanna say most started at like $150 and pit tickets were like 6-800.
Yes TM is the problem. They add fees for the dumbest shit. I had to pay extra to print my tickets out at home one time. They know they’re the only game in town and merged with basically their only completion and do nothing about bots that buy up tons of good tickets. Then they have their “official platinum” tickets which are most of the best seats and they jack up the price even more.
I'm going to try to purchase two tix tomorrow for the Atlanta show for the wife's birthday.
I thought it was a not-so-well-kept secret that a good portion of the "convenience" or "printing" fees go to the artist.
TM fees allow artists to keep ticket prices appearing low, so the artist isn't the villain, but they still get some cash from the "true" cost of the ticket.
And with music being predominantly streaming now, meaning no income (what little there was) from selling physical copies of the music, I don't expect it to get any better. In fact, barring government intervention, I think it will only get worse.
She could def do damage and get her famous friends on board too. Pearl Jam tried to do it like 20 years ago but couldn’t bc Live Nation had rights to a lot of venues. Also no other artists stepped in and helped.
That wouldn’t surprise me since artists get all their money from concerts and merch now not from record sales. They probably get portions of the resale tickets too
TS is an incredible businesswoman. She fucking manipulates her fans so well. Its amazing to watch.
I think people knew it wouldn't be easy to get tickets, but can't imagine people expected it to be like this. A 1 in 50 shot even with pre-sale?? Insane. We went to the last tour and while it was still an ordeal, I simply logged on and waited a while and bought my tickets back then.
Point being, she may decide to take on that fight for her next tour whenever that may be, just too late for this one.
Or maybe she's getting huge kickbacks and doesn't care?
And how often are seats actually on sale on TM versus being withheld and listed directly on stubhub...
Good. Turn on her so I have a better chance of securing tickets.
I mean if demand was that high, what could be done? She can't do 100 back to back shows. I think the server issues and all the errors around codes and getting kicked out are 100% on TM but there were less than 50% of the seats released during the presales. Maybe they should have opened up more of the seats during presales but then people would complain about low odds on Friday.
Give fewer people presale codes?
At $500 a ticket, that's a billion with a B in a single day
plus her kickback
where is $500 per ticket coming from?
To get to a billion, duh.
There's more than a B in that photo
I am mesmerized by these new boobs. They are spectacular.
So many people are about to skim that tweet and have an actual cardiac event at the last line
Wait, they sold their entire allotment to people who pre-registered??
I wonder how much of it is the threat of lawsuits/antitrust that has popped up this week. Although I feel this might actually feed into that more
Tbh it sounds like they nailed that part of the job description all too well.
no shit, ticketmaster
Jfc Ticketmaster is so fucking incompetent
I think my fiancé spent over 4k on 6 tickets.
yeah fuck that
Did she buy from racer
jet fuel is expensive
retail for really Good seats + fees
I guess we just bought tickets for the daughter and 3 of her friends. In seattle. Asked how much they went for and got “you don’t want to know.”
I guess I’m an old man yells at cloud here but how the fuck are people paying these prices?
Because your wife is the norm
Just realized my seats are behind the stage, that should be illegal.
I clicked the tickets the second I got through, without looking where they were, I was wondering how I got them so cheap
anyone ever sat behind the stage at a big concert like this