True Detective

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  1. stric006

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    IDK. When he is talking to that little dog in private he refers to his cooking as to how he got the ladies.
     
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  2. * J Y *

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    Yea and he seems pretty horny when they’re at the church. Maybe he just likes Tom and feels bad for him and takes revenge on the security guard and it screws up their ability to close the case and so Hays tells him to F off or accuses him of something.
     
  3. BamaNug

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    Don't think Roland is gay, just think he has a soft spot for Tom after losing his children and being so invested in the case.

    Also don't think Tom is involved (but think Tom might be gay). Hays mentioned something last night, around the time they interviewed Tom hardball-style regarding Julie's phone call -- something like "we couldn't possibly have missed this," or "we couldn't have missed this right under our noses," referring to the killer being Tom.

    Still interested in the Smoky Eye's involvement. Seems obvious he was with Mrs. Hoyt (I think?) when they were in the poor parts of town talking to the kids, and he seemed to be hiding something when Hays and Roland interviewed him. But last night in the bookstore he seemed to take a different tone. Maybe he was blackmailed by Hoyt foods as well? He's certainly involved, but doesn't seem like he was a willing participant.

    Also, I really don't like Amelia. Maybe it's how the show has portrayed her, but she seems much more interested in profiting from the case rather than solving it.
     
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  4. BamaNug

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    There are only 2 episodes left this season?? Fuck. Thought it was 10 or 12
     
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  5. Fuzzy Zoeller

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    I could be wrong, but I think there are two different black guys with glass eyes.

    Also, I think that guy was mad because he and other people in the black community of West Finger had worked to investigate/protect the black girls that had been taken, and that hadn't been a story because they were black and he was mad about it.
     
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  6. blind dog

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    Her voice drives me crazy. We sound a lot dumber here
     
  7. LeonardWashington

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    Definitely think it was two different guys with milky eyes
     
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  8. BamaNug

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    Have not thought about this...but the guy in the bookstore last night did look a lot different than the one interviewed in West Finger.

    Last night was the 1990 investigation, right? Because Amelia was promoting her 'sequel?'

    And the interview in West Finger was in the 80s, correct?
     
  9. BamaNug

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    The more she talks the more she reveals ulterior motives. Could be intentional or editing tricks, but every scene with her involves her bringing up the investigation and prying for information.
     
  10. NYGator

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    Have we seen two similar looking men with smokey eyes? I would hate if that differentiation became an important part in the plot. Seriously, if a plot point becomes we had the wrong smokey eye, then this show is shit. That would be like if the Fugitive featured two similar looking guys with the same prosthetic arm.
     
  11. LeonardWashington

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    One of the more unrealistic aspects of the show is that a husband and wife seem to not share important details of their own independent investigations with each other. Even with Hays being unwilling to actually read the book, I find it hard to believe that these facts wouldn't even have been mentioned among one another. But whatever you can't be perfect, but thought this was an eyebrow raiser
     
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  12. Bankz

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    I don't think he is the father. If he was he has so much money and power he could go through the courts and take her legally. My guess is he's a lunatic and bribed Lucy for her.
     
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  13. BamaNug

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    You're right. The moment where he read: "children should laugh ... this house has no laughter" (or something like that), and then reviews the ransom note, didn't immediately hit me as a big 'reveal' because I figured Hays knew she said that.
     
  14. NYGator

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    I haven't thought about this much, but what makes you think they don't share details outside of the book? I would agree that would be annoying, but he also seems genuinely annoyed by how much his wife wants to know about his work. That said, I guess it became her work too since she wrote the book.
     
  15. Bankz

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    Hays may have outed Roland and caused his marriage to end
     
  16. NYGator

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    I took it more as a reminder to him that it was said. The context mattered. It is not as if the wife had connected those dots to the letter in the book, did she?
     
  17. Bankz

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    Yes, Yes and Yes.
     
  18. Bankz

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    Do you guys think Tom killed Dan? or does Harris get them both?
     
  19. LeonardWashington

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    I def don't think Dan kills anyone. I think it is either Harris or Hays/Roland, because they keep referring to some horrible thing they did that apparently nobody knows about.

    Or perhaps Hays and Roland end up killing Harris, since I believe he disappeared didn't he? I think that is more likely. Didn't the filmmaker kind of allude to this, and then Hays stopped her and looked visibly shaken?
     
  20. Fuzzy Zoeller

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    Are people really still on the peephole thing?

    It was a plot device in early episodes to throw suspicion on the family/a way for Willi
    I don't know. I don't think either of them are really "important" to the story at this point, and I highly doubt both of them will be.
     
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  21. Bankz

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    Yeah I think Hays/Roland kill Harris. I think Harris kills Tom and the uncle. Hays seemed rattled when he was shown the body of Harris. Roland keeps telling Hays to not speak to the reporter because of it.
     
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  22. NYGator

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    So you think there are two of them though? That would be a very strange plot device. How often do you bump into two smokey eyed people in a year let alone in the same town int he same show.
     
  23. Bankz

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    agreed. I think they answered the true reason for the hole and it was the kids passing notes to each other. Maybe when it was a way to talk to each other about running away without the parents hearing.
     
  24. Bankz

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    during the 1980 interview the smokey eye black man said he wasn't the only one around the area with one good eye. Blamed it on working at the Hoyt factory
     
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  25. BamaNug

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    I think that is it. Looking at the timeline, the 80s smokey eye was a bit bigger and older. The guy last night (in 1990, at the bookstore) looked thinner and younger. Probably something that happens because of working at the factory.
     
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  26. BamaNug

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    Hays and Roland definitely kill Harris, or at least help cover it up.

    Additionally, is that what Amelia (or her ghost, rather) is referring to when she tells present-day Hays "you don't want them to find what's in the woods?" Maybe an incriminating piece of evidence relating Roland/Hays to Harris' murder? Can't really imagine what else she'd be talking about.
     
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    While in the car, Hayes also wanted to go back to the office and follow up on the gay conversion therapy and Roland said it was time to take a break. Not sure if that means anything or not.
     
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    Come on, people. The two dead-eyed guys are two different people. They don't all look alike (people with dead eyes, what did you think I meant you racist?).

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    I'm not convinced that Roland is gay for Tom, but both Harris and Tom being gay must mean something.
     
  29. NYGator

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    Yes, the gay angle is definitely important because we have seen the card for gay conversion therapy, and we have also had exposure to that weird church. Not to mention the super awkwardly contrived comment about his body.

    As far as the two smokey eyed guys being a plot device, color me skeptical. It feels so dumb to have that be an important thing, when it is a rarity in real life even if they attribute it to working int he plant.
     
  30. Nick Rivers

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    The dead eye guy in the library also had a scar. A small one but it was noticeable
     
  31. Matt Foley

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    Can't believe so many people are getting tripped up by the dead eye guy thing.

    The first one we meet is clearly innocent and wrongfully accused based on descriptions and being easily found. As others have mentioned, he even said he wasn't the only one with a dead eye around.

    The one from last night's episode is a completely separate person and is probably the guy that was originally involved.
     
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  32. beist

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    hey guys i'm no optometrist but i'm pretty sure one of the guys had a bad left eye and the other one a bad right eye.
     
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    How did the girl in the hospital or whatever know about the pink room/castle?
     
  34. CUAngler

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    The girl told her when she was also in the hospital
     
  35. BIGASSTITTIES

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    Or that's Julie Purcell
     
  36. Fidelio

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    The thought did occur to me
     
  37. Bankz

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    Julie told her

    I didn’t think this just because the girl was really dismissive of them looking for Julie and wanted them to focus on what happens to the girls on the run.
     
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    Which is exactly what Julie Purcell would do...
     
  39. Sir Patrick Stewart

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    Once it became clear that Mr. Hoyt is likely involved it made me think back to the earlier episode where the Hoyt emoloyee discussing the foundation tells Wayne and Roland that Mr. Hoyt has been out of the country on an African safari. Now it’s clear how they brainwashed Julie, and I can’t get this image out of my head..
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  40. FarmerBrown

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    So it's official, it's a shared universe.
     
  41. Pelican

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    Well they really botched that interrogation.
     
  42. UKupNorth

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    Episode was great tonight. Gave me chills at certain points.
     
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  43. tigerbishop11

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    The season one callback was cool
     
  44. LetItSoak

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    Fantastic television. Can't wait for Sunday
     
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  45. colonel_forbin

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    So hoyt's son-in-law and granddaughter died in a car wreck and his daughter went crazy over it. Hoyt then basically goes out and buys a new one from Lucy.

    Wayne figures it all out but gets blackmailed by Hoyt. Mutually assured destruction and all.

    And then Wayne forgets about all of it because he has Alzheimer's?

    That's my theory.
     
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  46. Juicy Locke

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    With Season 1 and 3 possibly being linked, I hope at some point we get a season that focuses not on a specific case but on the bigger picture.
     
  47. blind dog

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    And we get the standard HBO extra 15 minutes
     
  48. LetItSoak

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    Seems to cover it although I don't think he forgot completely so much as he is hiding aspects of it from the reporter for obvious reasons
     
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  49. Bankz

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    I think he forgot some of it because he wants to investigate it again at his old age.
     
  50. Aussie

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    There must still be some things he didn't know. Will be somewhat disappointing if he knew everything in '90 but just forgot.