Even crazier in right wing circles, expectation is Walz will lose so badly he'll be dropped from the ticket
Vance is good with the political BS talking points, if nothing else. As long as he doesn't veer off into crazy town. I think he'll do a far better job of that than Fuhrer Trump. That said, Walz will still come off far more relatable.
they figured out a long time ago that all you have to do is say the same thing over and over and people will believe it.
My biggest concern is that it isn't a great forum to make Vance come off as the unrelatable weirdo that he is when interacting with other human beings.
One where, thanks to Biden, they live in fear of Haitians stealing and eating their pets, cold blooded killers from Venezuela are going to slit their throats, and their sons are going to come home from school with his dick cut off, while their D3 basketball playing daughters have to play against male D1 starters
Walz is gonna roast his ass. The right wingers will claim the moderators were biased, rinse and repeat forever
Moderators are for sure gonna ask him about Springfield/Haitians as Vance was the one to gaslight it before the last debate only to be fact checked.
I don’t understand how Vance can even hold position. He either has to champion bigotry outrage culture war shit that people find disturbingly weird OR the venomously unpopular policies of the Republican Party.
seems like it's pretty easy to debate vance considering he's a sitting us senator "ok, JD well you voted against protecting IVF" "ok, JD well you voted against abortion rights" "ok, JD well you voted against the border bill"
Vance is going to lie and nothing will happen, then the media will celebrate the fact he can actually be lifelike.
Again?? Have you ever seen a vp candidate get so owned he was dropped from the ticket twice in 30 days? Just call the race
Someone like Vance is generally unlikeable because he's an unfunny dork but people like that can be effective in debates. Like Ted Cruz
The Biden VP debate with I think Paul Ryan was hilarious. Wasn't that where a gif of biden laughing and shaking his head came from?
If you're talking about 2015/2016, he outlasted like 20 other people before Trump won the nomination But I'm talking about in a one on one setting like this one
Many say the following got Bill Clinton elected. Vice presidential candidacy [edit] Stockdale became acquainted with businessman and presidential candidate Ross Perot through his wife's work in establishing an organization to represent the families of Vietnam POWs. On March 30, 1992, Perot announced that he had asked Stockdale to be the provisional vice presidential candidate on his 1992 independent ticket.[27] Perot intended to replace Stockdale with another candidate, but did not do so before dropping out of the race in July 1992.[28] Perot re-entered the race in the fall of 1992, with Stockdale still in place as vice presidential candidate. Stockdale was not informed that he would be participating in the October 13 vice presidential debate held in Atlanta, Georgia, until a week before the event. He had no formal preparation for the debate, unlike his opponents Al Gore and Dan Quayle, and did not discuss any political issues with Perot beforehand.[28] Stockdale opened the debate by saying, "Who am I? Why am I here?", as a response to the request for an opening statement from debate moderator, Hal Bruno, the political director of ABC News.[29][30] At first the rhetorical questions drew applause from the audience. However, his unfocused manner through the rest of the debate (including asking the moderator to repeat one question because he didn't have his hearing aid turned on) made him appear confused and disoriented. A humorous caricature of the debate on Saturday Night Live later that week, with Phil Hartman as Stockdale, cemented a public perception of Stockdale as slow-witted. He was also often parodied for his repeated use of the term "gridlock" to describe slow governmental policy.
ted cruz sucks at debating, but he makes people physically ill to look at so it's tough to stand up there and interact with him without barfing
Several years earlier Stockdale was a guest speaker in one of my undergrad IR courses at Cal. He did a decent job, and the one thing I remember relatively vividly is his account of the Tonkin Gulf incident in 1964, when he was a squadron commander on one of the carriers. He said they flew over the Gulf all night looking for enemy ships and found absolutely nothing.
I’ve heard Ted Cruz speak way too many times considering he has somehow been a stalwart of the Republican Party. Not once have I ever thought he made a good point, had good delivery, or added anything of substance. His secret sauce is triggering libs. The fact he exists is utterly disgusting and inhumane.
“I am saddened that my ex-fiancée would resort to making a series of false accusations against me as a way to divert attention from her own personal and professional failings. I emphatically deny these allegations and I will defend myself against them vigorously and successfully,” Lizza said. — A Kennedy spokesperson told CNN, “Mr. Kennedy only met Olivia Nuzzi once in his life for an interview she requested, which yielded a hit piece.”
"You are no Jack Kennedy!" Audience goes wild with approval. Proceeds to lose by 300 Electoral votes.
The point of the VP debate is to be a surrogate for the party nominee. Walz would do well to highlight the crazy shit that Trump has said and wants to do and force Vance to defend it.
I just hope the Harris/Walz campaign takes the suggestions and expertise of this board into consideration as they continue to shape their campaign. A lot of experts in here.
I'm hoping for him to highlight the crazy shit about trump that vance has publicly complained about and make him defend that
Since the mics will be hot, Walz should absolutely interrupt Vance whenever he tries to skirt around something. Walz should have a ton of ammo. Meanwhile, I think it should be pretty easy to sidestep and parry all the right wing talking points on abortion, the economy, and immigration. Unless Walz just sucks at debating and collapses, a draw should be the worst case scenario.
My neighbor helps hosts this song writers for vets event (which is actually a lot of fun) down in Naples every year, and they always have a Taylor Swift "autographed" guitar in their auction. I imagine this guitar is the same thing because everytime I see one at one of these auction events, it's always a complete piece of shit guitar you can get at Target for $50