Remember when people used to act like we had sour grapes about Tags when we told people he was garbage?
The timing is fantastic. As long as we keep recruiting moving upward and can replace Milton and the other speed guys we can position ourselves as best team in the state most years. All these TV deals end in a few years and chaos will happen as leagues move to snatch any valuable commodity left to snag that cash. FSU being down now is perfect.
Willie Taggart is a quinton flowers away from being like, a WR coach at UTSA or something random like that. The FSU fan excitement over his hire was the strangest thing in the world. He's the trashy new girl your cousin brings over for thanksgiving after his nasty divorce.
Defense has been the brightest spot so far. Situational, no. But overall, better than the other two facets.
I was in Eugene visitng my parents a couple week after Oregon hired him. Everyone there was so high on him that he was going to be the next chip kelly. I was like, he only has gimmicks and catch phrases and you will be looking for another coach in 2 seasons. Everyone thought I was crazy and just didn’t like him because USF. He beat my prediction by a full season. I figured he would have done at Oregon what he is doing at FSU and would be fired after 2 seasons but Herbert was too good, Francois is not
....You guys are so fucked. But hey, it's just a culture problem and not a talent one, right? ;) I'm sure they'll turn it around once everybody has a chance to bro a bit more.
Still don't understand our saltiness towards Frost and Chins, just in general. Perhaps I'm in the minority, but I'll always root for Frosty and Nebraska as long as they're not playing us. He was a great coach, seemed like a good dude, and won us a "Natty". Don't care about any secret meetings and shit that took place mid-season. He went home and he's eventually going to do very well there.
Frost is going to do well, but he's going to end up with a far different coaching staff than he has now I think. Also, shit talk aside, ya'll would be in a different situation with Martinez. Kinda hard to judge right now with a third string qb. edit: Also also, it's less about hating on Frost and more about hating on the subset of awful Nebraska fans and/or Bill Moos. But Chins does suck as a DC.
I concur...either by means of success and pilfering or struggle and resulting turnover to address issues. Chins was definitely the least enjoyed addition by most of the fanbase. We'll see how it goes. He's still a young guy. Track record with Hawkeyes is no bueno, but small sample size.
i'd equate it to an ex girlfriend who was really good for you, and you really enjoyed but then got back with her old boyfriend. deep down you know she's a good person and do wish her happiness, but it still stings a bit that she left you for someone else.
Ive thought about this a lot and i dont feel like working yet so im going to rant instead. Frost made a bad decision. Not because he left us but because of the state of the program he left for. It's well documented that Frost was very picky and particular with his choice of schools to leave Oregon for. The same year we hired him, Syracuse was open. Syracuse would have been all over that ass but Frost wasn't having it. He knew that to be successful the environment was important. UCF is a winner compared to our peers. With an average coach we'll be above average and with a good coach (Frost) we'll be great. We have advantages our peer schools do not have and should have an edge in recruiting fan support facilities etc etc. He could have stayed this year and next year and would have been likely able to hand pick his next job at an institution with the same advantages but at the P5 level. Instead, by leaving to go husk he is at a school that has an uphill battle against it's peers. Now those recruiting and location advantages are working against him. For a guy who was so surgical in his journey to be a big time head coach, he acted on emotion and made a decision to go down a difficult road. He might be able to do it and if he does he should go down as an all time great but resurrecting Nebraska is a huge job.
I'm not rooting for or against him. He made the choice to get paid and attempt to resurrect the program that is so important to his state and his football career and I can respect that. I just don't see him as some future Nick Saban like some fans and media seem to think he is destined to become. He's a good coach and maybe he is a great one, but it's a lot easier to win at UCF in the American than it is to lose here.
You're not wrong. It's uphill, but the chair lift quickens the higher up the hill we go. That's the one thing we still have left going for us. We've still only had four losing seasons since '62. Probably going to make that five this year, and yes, those five are all in the last 1.5 decades. This year's W-L doesn't matter and never did (at least not to our non-yokel fans). This is a 3-4-year turn around at minimum. It may ultimately end up not working out, but I really don't see how anyone can fault the guy one bit. His ties go well beyond being an alum. People tend to minimize that effect since he left once before, but that was in pursuit of a dream (playing QB for Walsh, promised a better shake). He's pursuing a dream now and gets the ultimate prize (raising his alma mater AND hometown team out of the abyss) should he be successful. It happened for him the first time around. We'll see if history repeats itself. I will say if TO wasn't still dragging his own corpse around everywhere, I'm not sure Frost would have been as apt to come home.
I think Frost saw a program he loved at a do or die point. He said he wouldn't have gone there after the next coach failed so he knew this was it for the program. It sucked at the time to lose a coach who changed the course of our school so quickly but I get why he did it. I don't think he can or will win a natty there but who knows. Maybe Urban hangs it up soon and the B1G is kinda shit beyond OSU and PSU now so winning it is very possible in a few years. Obviously it will take him some time and other programs will rise up as well (I assume Mich will move on from Harbaugh or he will pull it together in the next 2 years). If his goal was to get to that Saban/Urban level it was the wrong choice but I don't think that is his goal anymore.Worst case this goes badly at Neb and he is fired in 4 years and he ends up back in the American or MWC before grabbing a P5 job soon after.
Any coach who breathes this kind of air doesn't think like that. That's why they breathe the air that they do. Most don't make it though.
Also I think we made a great hire and we will be able to hold on to Huep for much longer than we would have with Frost.
And Oklahoma might have the best young coach in the country who should be there 20-30 years unless the NFL wants him.
Huep's buyout is insane at 10M. I think if he can bring in a QB we're going to be looking good for years and that's kind of his thing. I also prefer his openness with the media. He slips into Xs and Os on questions just looking for a generic response. His press conferences are way more informative because I don't think he knows how to turn it off.
I just wish Frost would have stayed to see our ranking this year. The media would have still done this "punishing" thing anyway but the excuse would have been different. So maybe a spot or two higher but not because of our coach but because we lost Griffin or something.
I think a thing that would make me concerned if I was a Nebraska fan is Scott Frost has been gone from the state of Florida for less than a year and he has zero recruits from the state of Florida. Hell not one of his commits is from Cali, Texas, or Florida. The reason he came to Florida was for the Florida athletes and now he's already recruiting Midwest white dudes at skill positions. Sean Beckton may be looking for a new gig soon enough if they can't maintain a presence in Florida.
Florida recruiting is a boy's club and Frost didn't stick around long enough to break in. As much as I could see our former guys being the sacrificial lambs up there when the seasons over, as soon as they fire Beck Florida recruiting will be on ice. It's a tricky scenario for them.
Supposedly we asked them if we could wear white (because it's a white out for that game) and they told us to fuck off. I'm guessing they'll be in white.
At least we tried. It’s not like a couple seasons ago when we promoted a black out on Black Friday and the team came out in the pee yellow uniforms
Like the nfl. The dolphins will definitely be wearing white Sunday at home and they will make the raiders wear black for the 1pm kick.
UCFartz can tell you about FSU practices. Basically they blare music super loud to be the cool program and former players blast them publicly for having dance parties instead of practicing.
Lane went to the Saban school of talking up your opponent and poor-mouthing your own team. While I agree that we have all those things, out of principle I don't believe a word that comes out of that dude's mouth
You mean you dont believe the namesake of the “Kiffin Sewage Treatment Plant” in Knoxville? I wonder why