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Discussion in 'The Mainboard' started by $P1, May 24, 2022.
And not one D will even try to message this to Americans.
I forgot to mention that for legit uses like varmint hunting you should never need anything other than FMJ rounds, right? So make 223 and 5.56 rounds available only in fmj, right? It should decrease lethality in uses against people, if you want a bunch of pussy half measures, that is.
As far as I am concerned your varmint rifle could/should look like this
these motherfuckers. Take off that stupid fucking hat too you pussy
Hey man…not cool re: 4 inchers!
Damn they did everything they could and it wasn't enough
May have been in this thread where they had a vid of a 223 soft tearing through ballistics gelatin and it just blew giant 3in diam holes into it. Fucking terrifying. You could use that thing to hunt fucking grizzlies. I want to vomit thinking of what it did to those little kids. I hope that guy is raped by 10 dicked demons in hell, and they come for abbott and cruz next.
I actually lost it during a business meeting (over MS Teams yesterday) when someone did a prayer and just said Ts and Ps. I may lose my job. I am not kidding. I have no regrets. I will find another.
Btw roe and this i am just in a permanent state of Cane-style (the poster not the school) feelings.
RIP to this martyr. We will avenge your unjust murder by maintaining a healthy supply of AR-15’s.
Can we please stop with the suicide banter
You give them far more credit than they deserve. They'll go on with their lives and continue to draw a paycheck while building to their pension.
I thought they were allowed to shoot me if they feared for their lives? Do they only fear for their lives if I’m unarmed?
no. these cops are cowardly trash and their reluctance resulted in the deaths of twenty people. their deaths would make the world a better, safer place.
these people aren’t bad because they have unwittingly reasoned themselves into bad political positions. They are bad because they are truly loathsome people in the most basic sense.
13-year old kid gets rejected trying to buy beer, cigs, porn, and lottery tickets. Gets a rifle on first try.
no. the best Uvalde cop is a dead Uvalde cop.
If you wanted proof that absolutely nothing will ever change
Weird how he only signs an EO after that tragedy happened. A year and a half late.
heather cox richardson going hard in the paint w some history (great read)
Heather Cox Richardson
May 24, 2022 (Tuesday)
Today, a gunman murdered at least 19 children and 2 adults at Robb Elementary School in Uvalde, Texas.
For years now, after one massacre or another, I have written some version of the same article, explaining that the nation’s current gun free-for-all is not traditional but, rather, is a symptom of the takeover of our nation by a radical extremist minority. The idea that massacres are “the price of freedom,” as right-wing personality Bill O’Reilly said in 2017 after the Mandalay Bay massacre in Las Vegas, in which a gunman killed 60 people and wounded 411 others, is new, and it is about politics, not our history.
The Second Amendment to the Constitution, on which modern-day arguments for widespread gun ownership rest, is one simple sentence: “A well regulated militia, being necessary for the security of a free state, the right of the people to keep and bear arms, shall not be infringed.” There’s not a lot to go on about what the Framers meant, although in their day, to “bear arms” meant to be part of an organized militia.
As the Tennessee Supreme Court wrote in 1840, “A man in the pursuit of deer, elk, and buffaloes might carry his rifle every day for forty years, and yet it would never be said of him that he had borne arms; much less could it be said that a private citizen bears arms because he has a dirk or pistol concealed under his clothes, or a spear in a cane.”
Today’s insistence that the Second Amendment gives individuals a broad right to own guns comes from two places.
One is the establishment of the National Rifle Association in New York in 1871, in part to improve the marksmanship skills of American citizens who might be called on to fight in another war, and in part to promote in America the British sport of elite shooting, complete with hefty cash prizes in newly organized tournaments. Just a decade after the Civil War, veterans jumped at the chance to hone their former skills. Rifle clubs sprang up across the nation.
By the 1920s, rifle shooting was a popular American sport. “Riflemen” competed in the Olympics, in colleges, and in local, state, and national tournaments organized by the NRA. Being a good marksman was a source of pride, mentioned in public biographies, like being a good golfer. In 1925, when the secretary of the NRA apparently took money from ammunition and arms manufacturers, the organization tossed him out and sued him.
NRA officers insisted on the right of citizens to own rifles and handguns but worked hard to distinguish between law-abiding citizens who should have access to guns for hunting and target shooting and protection, and criminals and mentally ill people, who should not. In 1931, amid fears of bootlegger gangs, the NRA backed federal legislation to limit concealed weapons; prevent possession by criminals, the mentally ill and children; to require all dealers to be licensed; and to require background checks before delivery. It backed the 1934 National Firearms Act, and parts of the 1968 Gun Control Act, designed to stop what seemed to be America’s hurtle toward violence in that turbulent decade.
But in the mid-1970s, a faction in the NRA forced the organization away from sports and toward opposing “gun control.” It formed a political action committee (PAC) in 1975, and two years later it elected an organization president who abandoned sporting culture and focused instead on “gun rights.”
This was the second thing that led us to where we are today: leaders of the NRA embraced the politics of Movement Conservatism, the political movement that rose to combat the business regulations and social welfare programs that both Democrats and Republicans embraced after World War II. Movement Conservatives embraced the myth of the American cowboy as a white man standing against the “socialism” of the federal government as it sought to level the economic playing field between Black Americans and their white neighbors.
Leaders like Arizona Senator Barry Goldwater personified the American cowboy, with his cowboy hat and opposition to government regulation, while television Westerns showed good guys putting down bad guys without the interference of the government.
In 1972, the Republican platform had called for gun control to restrict the sale of “cheap handguns,” but in 1975, as he geared up to challenge President Gerald R. Ford for the 1976 presidential nomination, Movement Conservative hero Ronald Reagan took a stand against gun control. In 1980, the Republican platform opposed the federal registration of firearms, and the NRA endorsed a presidential candidate—Reagan—for the first time.
When President Reagan took office, a new American era, dominated by Movement Conservatives, began. And the power of the NRA over American politics grew.
In 1981 a gunman trying to kill Reagan shot and paralyzed his press secretary, James Brady, and wounded Secret Service agent Tim McCarthy and police officer Thomas Delahanty. After the shooting, then-representative Charles Schumer (D-NY) introduced legislation that became known as the Brady Handgun Violence Prevention Act, or the Brady Bill, to require background checks before gun purchases. Reagan, who was a member of the NRA, endorsed the bill, but the NRA spent millions of dollars to defeat it.
After the Brady Bill passed in 1993, the NRA paid for lawsuits in nine states to strike it down. Until 1959, every single legal article on the Second Amendment concluded that it was not intended to guarantee individuals the right to own a gun. But in the 1970s, legal scholars funded by the NRA had begun to argue that the Second Amendment did exactly that.
In 1997, when the Brady Bill cases came before the Supreme Court as Printz v. United States, the Supreme Court declared parts of the measure unconstitutional.
Now a player in national politics, the NRA was awash in money from gun and ammunition manufacturers. By 2000 it was one of the three most powerful lobbies in Washington. It spent more than $40 million on the 2008 election. In that year, the landmark Supreme Court decision of District of Columbia v. Heller struck down gun regulations and declared that the Second Amendment protects an individual’s right to keep and bear arms.
Increasingly, NRA money backed Republican candidates. In 2012 the NRA spent $9 million in the presidential election, and in 2014 it spent $13 million. Then, in 2016, it spent over $50 million on Republican candidates, including more than $30 million on Trump’s effort to win the White House. This money was vital to Trump, since many other Republican super PACs refused to back him. The NRA spent more money on Trump than any other outside group, including the leading Trump super PAC, which spent $20.3 million.
The unfettered right to own and carry weapons has come to symbolize the Republican Party’s ideology of individual liberty. Lawmakers and activists have not been able to overcome Republican insistence on gun rights despite the mass shootings that have risen since their new emphasis on guns. Even though 90% of Americans—including nearly 74% of NRA members—support background checks, Republicans have killed such legislation by filibustering it.
The NRA will hold its 2022 annual meeting this Friday in Houston. Former president Trump will speak, along with Texas governor Greg Abbott, senator Ted Cruz, and representative Dan Crenshaw; North Carolina lieutenant governor Mark Robinson; and South Dakota governor Kristi Noem—all Republicans. NRA executive vice president and chief executive officer Wayne LaPierre expressed his enthusiasm for the lineup by saying: “President Trump delivered on his promises by appointing judges who respect and value the Constitution and the Bill of Rights and in doing so helped ensure the freedom of generations of Americans.”
Tonight, President Joe Biden spoke to the nation: “Why are we willing to live with this carnage? Why do we keep letting this happen?... It’s time to turn this pain into action. For every parent, for every citizen in this country, we have to make it clear to every elected official in this country, it’s time to act.” In the Senate, Chris Murphy (D-CT) said, "I am here on this floor, to beg, to literally get down on my hands and knees and beg my colleagues....find a way to pass laws that make this less likely."
But it was Steve Kerr, the coach of the Golden State Warriors basketball team, whose father was murdered by gunmen in Beirut, Lebanon, in 1984, who best expressed the outrage of the nation. At a press conference tonight, shaking, he said, “I’m not going to talk about basketball…. Any basketball questions don’t matter…. Fourteen children were killed 400 miles from here, and a teacher, and in the last ten days we’ve had elderly Black people killed in a supermarket in Buffalo, we’ve had Asian churchgoers killed in Southern California, and now we have children murdered at school. WHEN ARE WE GONNA DO SOMETHING? I’m tired, I’m so tired of getting up here and offering condolences to the devastated families…. I’m tired of the moments of silence. Enough. There’s 50 senators…who refuse to vote on HR 8, which is a background check rule that the House passed a couple years ago…. [N]inety percent of Americans, regardless of political party, want…universal background checks…. We are being held hostage by 50 senators in Washington who refuse to even put it to a vote despite what we the American people want…because they want to hold onto their own power. It’s pathetic,” he said, walking out of the press conference.
“I’ve had enough.”
Biden is bitchmade as they come. It’s gonna take citizens to get shit done. Democrats are useless against republicans
Good post/thread on the worthless Uvalde Cops Gallant Knight
Not arguing that. Just not cool with the kill yourself posts
this is an ACAB board
as someone who lives on the brink on that edge it’s fucked up how flippantly “kill yourself” is throw around.
I understand the anger but damn. They (the cops) should quit the department . We need to stop putting cops on pedestals. If we didn’t get bombarded with “back the blue cops are hero’s” propaganda constantly. If they weren’t put above the law and allowed to kill unarmed civilians with impunity maybe that anger wouldn’t be as intense. You tell me they killed citizen A, B and C because they feared for their lives and thought there was a gun but when there is actual danger they hide, of course people are going to be angry.
This has been a trying time. I’ve been open more with my struggles so I’ll say this. Seeing reading mental health being used as a scapegoat fucking sucks. It makes me wonder what some think about those who legitimately suffer with mental health issues. Seeing how easily people say “kill yourself” to others makes me wonder how easily they’d say that to someone who is on the brink and who might just take that as the push they need.
Anyway sorry for my ramblings.
Edit: don’t emotionally drunk shit post
they have a week off for memorial day?
It’s admirable to be so merciful, truly. But These shitheads would, without a doubt, not extend the same empathy to you.
I should have used quotation marks.
I like the Yankees now wtf?
i might need to take a break from the board if this is how you guys feel. My bad.
still nothing grundy about the inevitable results of your ideology huh
guess simmons had a couple haters on tmb he needed you to defend him from so you just haven’t gotten to it
Yeah this is a shitty post.
If this is true this is the same type of bullying the tobacco industry did.
Edit- fake tweet. Fuck that POS.
he didn’t mean you I’m 100% sure he was referring to the police and worded it poorly
believe he was using the royal you there, Daniel Ocean
Oh cool, so he was just calling for regicide?
team i don't think you should be banned for kys stuff but everyone should remember lots of folks have experience with it in many ways so saying it all the time is not great
think about your fellow posters
I’ve been known to be hyperbolic and harsh in my rhetoric, and have been all my life, hope I haven’t hurt Daniel Ocean or anyone else
I think the world would be better off if all those uvalde police ceased to breathe oxygen but I’ll be more empathetic in my language from here on out
Just think. If pinkos didn’t say BLM, then this PD would never have been forced to obfuscate facts and destroy evidence.
I’m caught somewhere toward mostly thinking guns are bad and right wingers who fetishize them are insane, and also thinking that bc right wingers fetishize them that ppl do need guns. Some would call that a core problem for country.
Im okay with posting “kill yourself” to a general grouping of people who are extremely unlikely to read said post from an obscure sort of kind of sports Internet forum.
And to any individual clemson or UGA fan on any platform.
I didn’t expect much after their original tweet but the Yankees did a very good job with this
Hell yea #New York Yankees talk yo shit
but also it’s super disheartening to think that all of this will result in nothing. Maybe it’s inspiring zoomers to do something about this once they come to power. If civilization as we know it makes it that far.
God dammit i think someone black pilled my Michelob ultra last night.
I appreciate you Daniel Ocean. I did not know that you have been dealing with mental health issues. I wish I could say more to help but understand its long timers like you that keep me on this board. And its amazing how much we have all grown.