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Discussion in 'The Mainboard' started by Gin Buckets, Jun 12, 2015.
DG Kerkvliet news:
We know he tore his ACL right after his high school season, but he retore it 2 months ago in Russia and is somehow still wrestling (and won a U23 world team spot over an NCAA AA).
He weighs 220 pounds.
He is redshirting at OSU next year to get bigger and stronger.
Doesn't plan on having surgery to repair his knee.
This qualifies as pretty huge wrestling news imo.
Flo 47 mil series c
Kyle Dake is out of Final X: Rutgers.
Had surgery on his knee apparently.
Date for his Ringer wrestleoff tbd but Fargo in 6 weeks seems like a good bet.
Hopefully they spend 10 or 20 mil on making their rankings easier to find on their website.
What's the difference between this and Taylor's injury? Why isn't Ringer the rep?
Taylor isn't going to be ready to wrestle in Nur-Sultan in September. Dake is.
If you are sick or injured you are allowed to request a wrestle-off at a later date TBD. This has happened many times for team usa in the past but we've been very lucky with injuries lately, at least on the senior level.
Last I could remember was Joey McKenna at JR Worlds 4-5 years back, he ended up making the team and then missed weight at the competition. Oops.
I actually think the Women's team had a special wrestle-off a year or two ago.
Thanks what I thought but wasn't sure
Flo has DC United rights and it’s an absolute disaster, games are unwatchable
First place tho
Edit: shit second
There's fan groups beefing with supporter bars over this. I do like flo for wrestling but this is so bad, I don't even try and stream the games and it's pathetic that they don't have an app.
Anyways, pumped for final X. Time of the year where I justify paying $150 a year for flo.
I reaaaalllly want to take Gable but I think he's a year away. I don't see Gwiz winning a medal this year though so I'm pulling for Gable to take it.
Cassar just made it official, he’s back
What did Bo say to J'Den?
When is final X
It’s on the 9th green at 9.
Oh, and dress nice.
He didn’t say anything to him. He just answered some question and said that getting to be on team USA and have the whole fan base is cool. J’Den gave a look like, uh you aren’t on the team yet.
This is pretty huge news.
Rumor was that Cassar got two extra years of eligibility, but there were some whispers that he wasn't going to wrestle next year.
Fun fact: In addition to having two more years of eligibility, he is also eligible for an Olympic redshirt next year.
So theoretically he could ORS in '19-'20, and then wrestle in '20-'21 and '21-22.
He graduated in 2014. That would be eight years of college.
Session Two – 6 PM ET
Bout 1: Women’s FS 65 kg – Forrest Molinari (Titan Mercury WC/Hawkeye WC) vs. Maya Nelson (Sunkist Kids/OTC)
Bout 2: Men’s GR 77 kg – Kamal Bey (Sunkist Kids/OTC) vs. Pat Smith (Minnesota Storm)
Bout 3: Women’s FS 68 kg – Tamyra Mensah-Stock (Titan Mercury WC/OTC) vs. Alexandria Glaude (Titan Mercury WC/McKendree Bearcat WC)
Bout 4: Women’s FS 50 kg – Whitney Conder (U.S. Army WCAP) vs. Victoria Anthony (Sunkist Kids)
Bout 5: Men’s FS 125 kg – Nick Gwiazdowski (Titan Mercury WC/Wolfpack RTC) vs. Gable Steveson (Minnesota RTC)
Bout 6: Men’s FS 65 kg – Yianni Diakomihalis (Titan Mercury WC/Finger Lakes RTC) vs. Zain Retherford (Nittany Lion WC)
Bout 7: Men’s FS 92 kg – J’den Cox (Titan Mercury WC/OTC) vs. Bo Nickal (Nittany Lion WC)
Conder but Anthony is still bae
I've finally made a decision that I'm going with Gwiz, but it is the absolute last time I am picking against Gable domestically for the next decade or so
The quality of the matches tonight is insane. Can't wait.
Gable weighs in at 256.5, Gwiz at 261.5. Thought he'd have a little more than a 5 pound advantage.
Did anyone catch what Nickal weighed in at? Got a phone call.
87.7, damn shame we couldn’t find a way to get him at 86. Feels like DT could have given a heads up there
So this is INTERESTING.
Guess what? If David Taylor announced before world team trials that he was out for 2019, Nickal could have gone 86kg, mopped up the field, and would have to beat Pat Downey 2/3 matches to make his first world team. Instead, he weighs in 10 pounds under against J'den Cox who is likely cutting to make weight.
My likely scenario:
1) Nickal and Sandersons decide not to pit Bo against Taylor in '19 because 86 is Taylor's spot and he's a world champion and a Nit. So he goes up to 92kg for the open despite being a true 86.
2) PDIII wins a tightly contested race for the 86kg WTT Finals spot at the Open, Nickal mows down the competition at 92kg for the WTT Finals Spot
3) David Taylor gets hurt at Final X
4) WTT approaches and Nickal goes 92kg
Is all well in Nittany Land? Seems like Magicman kinda sabotaged Nickal. He obviously knew he wasn't going to be competing in 2019. He could have told Nickal, and Bo could have relinquished his WTT finals spot at 92kg, and gone through the challenger bracket at 86kg with the expectation he'd win and get PDIII in the finals for a best of 3 shot at his first World Team.
Instead, he stays at 92kg, wins the best of three against Macchiavello, and now he has a much bigger J'den Cox, who is one of the 15 greatest American wrestlers of all time and still in his prime.
Why would Magicman sabotage Nickal? Because if Nickal wins a medal at 86kg in 2019, he gets a bye to Final X for the 2020 Olympics. If he thinks PD3 is less likely to win a medal, it could be advantageous for him to let PD3 have the spot, have him fail to medal at worlds, and then come back healthy in 2020, win the US Open, and sit out WTT for Final X.
Keep in mind a bye to Final X is ABSOLUTELY HUGE in an Olympic year. 86kg is going to be STACKED. If Nickal won a medal at 86kg, he'd have a bye, and then the US Open would be David Taylor, J'Den Cox, Alex Dieringer, Zahid Valencia, Mark Hall, PD3, etc....The winner of that would get a bye to WTT Finals. Then you'd have to beat that entire field AGAIN. Then you'd have to beat Nickal.
May be off here but I kinda think this is how it went down.
Is he eligible for an Olympic RS?
He did get two, but his goal is to make the Olympics and springboard that into mma. So next year will be his last year ncaa.
Qualifiers of No. 1 - Past national team members (top three from the World or Olympic Team Trials)
Mason Manville, Penn State - 2017 Greco-Roman World Team Member at 75kg
Nick Reenan, NC State - 2018 National Team, second place at 86kg
Jaydin Eierman, Missouri - 2018 National Team, third place at 65kg
Tate Orndorff, Utah Valley - 2018 National Team, third place at 130k (Greco)
Qualifiers of No. 4 - Previous Cadet, Junior, U23 World Medalist
Jordan Wood, Lehigh - silver medal, 2014 Cadet World Championships
Owen Webster, Minnesota - bronze medal, 2015 Cadet World Championships
Jarod Verkleeren, Penn State - gold medal, 2015 Cadet World Championships
Yianni Diakomihalis, Cornell - gold medal, 2015 Cadet World Championships
Spencer Lee, Iowa - gold medal, 2016 Junior World Championships
Mark Hall, Penn State - gold medal, 2016 Junior World Championships
Daton Fix, Oklahoma State - bronze medal, 2016 Junior World Championships
Taylor LaMont, Utah Valley - bronze medal, 2016 Junior World Championships (Greco)
Travis Wittlake, Oklahoma State - bronze medal, 2016 Cadet World Championships
Jacob Warner, Iowa - bronze medal, 2016 Cadet World Championships
Kurt McHenry, Michigan - gold medal, 2016 Cadet World Championships
David Carr, Iowa State - bronze medal, 2016 Cadet World Championships
Vito Arujau, Cornell - silver medal, 2016 Cadet World Championships
Mitch McKee, Minnesota - silver medal, 2017 Junior World Championships
Ryan Deakin, Northwestern - silver medal, 2017 Junior World Championships
Zahid Valencia, Arizona State - silver medal, 2017 Junior World Championship
Kollin Moore, Ohio State - bronze medal, 2017 Junior World Championships
Gable Steveson, Minnesota - gold medal, 2017 Junior World Championship
Cevion Severado, Missouri - silver medal, 2017 Junior World Championships (Greco)
Jacori Teemer, Arizona State - bronze medal, 2017 Cadet World Championships
Will Lewan, Michigan - gold medal, 2017 Cadet World Championships
Daniel Gregory Kerkvliet, Ohio State - gold medal, 2017 Cadet World Championships
Aaron Brooks, Penn State - gold medal, 2017 Cadet World Championships
Gavin Hoffman, Ohio State - bronze medal, 2017 Cadet World Championships
Cohlton Schultz, Arizona State - bronze medal, 2018 Junior World Championships (Greco)
Andrew Berreyesa, Cornell - silver medal, 2018 Junior World Championships (Greco)
Zach Elam, Missouri - silver medal, 2018 Junior World Championships
Mekhi Lewis, Virginia Tech - gold medal, 2018 Junior World Championships
Brady Berge, Penn State - bronze medal, 2018 Junior World Championships
Abe Assad, Iowa - bronze medal, 2018 Cadet World Championships
Matt Ramos, Minnesota - gold medal, 2018 Cadet World Championships
Plus anyone who medals this year.
Qualifiers of No. 2 - Top eight at the 2019 Senior U.S. Open
Kanen Storr, Anthony Valencia, Logan Massa, Matt Finesilver, Max Dean, Jeremiah Imonode, Ben Harvey, then all the Greco guys who I'm not bothering to count (Brady Koontz Baby!)
Qualifiers of No. 3 - Top three at the 2019 NCAA Wrestling Championship; or NCAA champion from a previous year AND top two from the 2019 U23 World Team Trials (must accomplish both).
125-Jack Mueller, Sebastian Rivera
133-Suriano, Micic (Not sure if you're eligible if you're wrestling for another country--this could actually pertain to both as there's rumors Nick might wrestle for Italy)
Men's matches about to start in about 10 minutes.
Fuck, horrible end to a terrific match. Get your big ass in better shape, Gable.
Weird finish from Gable, just gave up with a minute in a match he's down on criteria.
Gwiz wins match #1 4-4 after a poorly wrestled match by Gable Steveson, who is clearly the more talented guy on the mat.
Yeah, had no business losing that one. Wonder what is going on in his head
Why is he talking after it, Gable kinda seems like the opposite of Kyle Snyder in close matches. He folds way too often.
Good adjustments by Zain, Yianni can't just rely on counter attacks vs someone that good.
Zain takes match 1, went down 0-2 almost immediately then controlled the rest of the match.
Fantastic work from Zain, clearly worked on hitting quick on the low shots or getting the fuck out of it. Great gameplan
Was not predicting a match like this
Not sure the exact rules but would like that to be 2 and 2
So a failed challenge is 1 for the other guy?
Goddamn J'den's movement and defense are just incredible.
2nd period (and match) is decided by one sequence where Bo gets to J'dens legs but is unable to take him through, and J'den muscles Bo over for two of his own.
10 pounds would have been nice there.
You don't want to be down against J'den with under 40 seconds left. You lose.
Pat Downey is trash
Understand it but this whole telethon thing is pretty sad.
When you name your daughter Forrest, she better be tough and certainly is.