WTF happened to Country Music?

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  1. steamengine

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    That can probably be attributed to him getting sober right as a sector of boomers were beginning to become hippies.
    https://www.btrtoday.com/read/featured/the-politics-of-johnny-cash/
     
  2. Penguin The Duck

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    Merle was in the audience at San Quentin when Johnny Cash played, as a prisoner. The guy was a badass.
     
  3. TC

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    I did know that much. And I know Bakersfield CA is its own sound and Merle was one of the ones to help establish it
     
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  4. SC

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    To understand Merle, you kind of have to understand his upbringing. Great depression baby, walked into his family's trailer when he was 9 or 10 and found his dad sitting in his chair, crying and unable to move because he'd had a stroke and was partially paralyzed. Then his dad died shortly after. Juvenile delinquent from basically then on, in and out of prison, then did 3 years in San Quentin.

    Grew up hard, lived hard. Saw the protestors as just ungrateful complainers. I forget where I read it, but he said in an interview as soon as Okie came out and became a thing, a large part of him regretted it immediately. When that song was getting him the attention of George fucking Wallace and those types, alarm bells went off. But the label didn't let him release the follow up song he wanted, and Fightin' Side of Me was the double down instead because money is money and that's what his crowds wanted. He wanted to release Irma Jackson, a 180 from all the hubbub surrounding Okie and a song about interracial marriage.



    Whereas John Prine's "Your Flag Decal Won't Get You Into Heaven Anymore" (released two years after Okie) very much defined the values and politics that John had for basically the rest of his life, Okie was just a song in a snapshot of Merle's life. Of course it still follows you around, but I'd say the majority of Merle's years after were lived with beliefs that didn't match the version of Merle that did Okie. I don't particularly buy the satire or social commentary "excuses" that were theorized about his motivations.
     
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  5. TC

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    Thank you. My take was based on what it's like growing up in rural SC watching people sing along to that song. (And feelings I felt singing it when younger, being honest.) Wasn't saying to cancel him, or that he sucks, but I feel better about propping him up if I know he's not just an avatar for chuds. Maybe I need to get Merle's biography next. (That part about his dad sounds horrible though :tebow: )
     
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  6. SC

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    It definitely got co-opted by idiots back then and now, but the song is definitely not representative of Merle the person in totality.

    Not saying he was perfect or without flaws by any means, but you're not backing a bigot or anything like that.
     
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  8. SC

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    Zach Bryan says he’s got a new album written, going to record it in July.
     
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  9. steamengine

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    The new episode of One by Willie with Robert Earl Keen is fantastic
     
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  10. SC

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    Zach Bryan made his Grand Ole Opry debut on Saturday.
     
  11. EdmondDantes

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    turnpike shoutout with the t-shirt
     
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  12. leroi

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    I was always a little skeptical about Merle after I heard the white boy song, but I have never known with any certainty what his politics were really about.
     
  13. HOOSINSC

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    i don't know that he always kept his politics straight. he was a big time reagan fan(i read that reagan pardoned him?), but he also supported and wrote songs for obama and hillary.
     
  14. steamengine

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  15. bigred77

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  16. steamengine

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  17. Upton^2

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  18. Capstone 88

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    Didn’t really know where else to put this. This is a damn good song.

     
  19. The B1G Kucktis

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    My brother saw Mike and the Moonpies last night at the Far Out Lounge and is going to see Joshua Ray Walker in Tulsa next week.
     
  20. teel

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    Fuck FGL I hate how catchy this song is

     
  21. Daddy Rabbit

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  22. HOOSINSC

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    3 nights in asheville? yes please.
     
  23. Upton^2

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    no
     
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  24. Tammy Chiggers

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    Under the Big Sky Fest - who's doing it?
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  26. Nole0515

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  27. Tammy Chiggers

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    Going to be plenty come available - the Canadians aren't going to be able to cross the border
     
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  28. THEBLUERAIDER

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    Just bought tickets for American Aquarium in Nashville for a June show. Cannot wait for live music again.
     
  29. Nole0515

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    Norm Peterson
     
  30. Fargin' Icehole

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    @Colter Wall
     
  31. Norm Peterson

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  32. DaveGrohl

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    If you guys figure this out let me know. Wanting to go (solo) but can't nail down logistics.
     
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  33. Nole0515

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    Only thing that’s opened up were houses for 1500-2000/night so far
     
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  34. Nole0515

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  36. Nole0515

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  37. Tammy Chiggers

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    Stuff pops up just about every single day, but is gone in hours. For example, a 2br 1 bth in Kallispell is on VRBO for $130 a night right now
     
  38. Nole0515

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    where? cant find it
     
  39. Fargin' Icehole

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    1st year on BnB, just went active. I'm renting at a $1000/wk more than I rented with a reality company.
     
  40. Nole0515

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    Found it and booked
     
  41. Nole0515

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    We'er going to Big Sky boys
     
  42. SC

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    Oh yes
     
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  43. THEBLUERAIDER

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    Already bought the John Deere Green vinyl. Can’t wait.
     
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  44. EdmondDantes

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    good stuff but dying at Ameican Aquarium covering Down at the twist and shout
     
  45. SC

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    There will be no Mary Chapin Carpenter slander allowed here.
     
  46. The.Barron.of.Miles

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    Great memories of my mom rockin the Mary Chapin Carpenter and Kathy Mattea cassettes back in the early 90s.
     
  47. SC

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    Jamie Lin Wilson’s backup vocals on Should’ve Been a Cowboy are everything.
     
  48. CUtigers

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    You know it's going to be great when it starts out with Queen of My Double Wide Trailer
     
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  49. Capstone 88

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    Ive gone through it 3 times. This fucks. It fucks hard.
     
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