*** EPL 2015-2016: Nothing to see here, just more choking chickens.

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  1. JonathanCoachman

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    Ace has been through a couple Dumpflower cycles the last few months.
     
  2. SugarShaun

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  3. broXcore

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    And then a good cry about both of your teams missing top 4!
     
  4. Corky Bucek

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    Well yeah
     
  5. broXcore

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    Well shit, now I feel bad
     
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    We drank some good beers to help drown our sorrows and enjoy the laughs at Ace.
     
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    I felt kinda bad when Corky started openly weeping after I brought up the mid week Man U - West Ham game. Was kinda awkward tbh. I quickly changed the subject back to Ace.
     
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  8. Wu

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    @Simply_Spurs: The term Spursy will live on forever. We could win 37 league games in a row and draw 1 but Arsenal would win 38. It's the way of life. #COYS
     
  9. ohhaithur

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    I'm not sure math checks out on this
     
  10. WillySaliba

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    Liked only for the fact that I hope I never have to hear him commentate ever again.
     
  11. Andy Reocho

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    They're actually taking a page out of Fox's book and he will color commentate games from a Denver studio while Arlo is in the booth
     
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  12. Wu

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    He is our broadcast herpes.
     
  13. zeberdee

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    was shocked to hear the Tottenham actually finished this season two points off their total from 2012/2013 under AVB.
     
  14. NittanyKnight

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    Despite little drama and a postponement, NBC Sports notched 10% increase in Championship Sunday TV viewers, 43% rise in online users
     
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  15. Wu

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    I was not going to post this as spurs fans have suffered enough.
     
  16. Illinihockey

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    So if LFC win on Wednesday, does the EPL have 2 teams enter in at the qualification stage? Spurs and City.
     
  17. broXcore

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    it's kind of irrelevant anyway, right? the league changes from year to year, so point totals mean different things in different seasons. that season we finished 4th and this season we finished 3rd.

    relative to the competition, we are better, and i feel way better about pochettino than i did about avb

    or am i totally missing the point?
     
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  18. Wu

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    Nah I feel it's just a random stat that attempts to marginalize Poch's contributions to the club.
     
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  19. NineteenNine

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    no, LFC would go directly into the group stage, as would Spurs.
     
  20. Pasta88

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  21. zeberdee

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    I don't think there really is a point as the league changes year to year like you said. I was just shocked and didn't believe it until I looked it up for myself.
     
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    You finished 5th that season but I agree with the overall point.
     
  23. broXcore

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    those manager carousel years really run together, apparently
     
  24. MODEVIL

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    I believe I have the most experience with that. :)

    Off the top of my head Chelsea have had the following managers since Guus was last interim manager:

    Carlo
    AVB
    RDM
    FSW
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    Guus again
     
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    yay Indy is a world class city at something
     
  26. steamengine

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    It is a bit odd to make someone with Tourette's a broadcaster. Although I'm petty ignorant to how debilitating it actually is so idk.
     
  27. animal_mother

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    It's almost a non-factor in what makes him a terrible choice for a broadcast. One, he sucks at it in general. Two, it's lame that he gets to call games of active rivals. Lastly and worst of all, the ball is back on the other end of the pitch and he's still talking about everything from the goalkeepers POV...
     
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  28. steamengine

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    Perhaps, just watching his inability to produce any substantive thought always makes me wonder if it's a factor. Probably not though. He might just be bad.
     
  29. IAHusk

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    FYI Manchester United vs. Bournemouth will be on NBCSN at 2:00 pm CT if anyone is bored with nothing to do tomorrow.
     
  30. Gunners

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    Statistical team of the year.

    Premier League's statistical best XI
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    Jamie Vardy was named the player of the season after bagging 24 goals en route to the Premiership title.
    With Leicester City's shocking title, the Premier League has had four different clubs win in four consecutive seasons for the first time in 23 years.

    That turnover is reflected in this statistical team of the season, outlined below, which features no players from either Manchester club or defending champion Chelsea (three of the four preseason betting favorites to win the title).

    Many of the names on this list won't be shocking inclusions, indicating that statistics and the eye test are not mutually exclusive standards. But knowing why and how players found success can be useful moving forward, whether you're a fan looking to understand the game differently, a fantasy owner trying to cobble together a better team or even a club executive looking to spend frugally in the transfer window.

    Here's the 2015-16 Premier League statistical best XI, based on a 4-4-2 formation, including a breakdown of each player's notable numbers along with honorable mentions at each position.

    Prem best XI, by the numbers
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    Goalkeeper
    Going against first-team PFA keeper David De Gea may not feel right, but notoriously fickle keeper stats don't love De Gea this season. So let's give Petr Cech the first-team nod here. Cech won the Golden Glove with 16 clean sheets, and he set the Premier League record with 178 career shutouts. He played 34 of Arsenal's 38 games, as the Gunners allowed the same number of goals as last season (36) despite facing 43 more shots this season.

    Cech led the league in save percentage (78 percent) and in save percentage on shots in the box (74 percent), where he was whopping five points better than any other keeper who played at least 20 games. He conceded 4.7 goals fewer than expected on those shots, second-best in the league behind West Ham's Adrian.

    Honorable mention: Adrian allowed 4.5 goals fewer than expected, the best rate in the league this season. Leicester City's Kasper Schmeichel was second, allowing 2.7 goals below his expected total.

    Center-backs
    Had Tottenham not collapsed and surrendered five goals to Newcastle on Sunday, Spurs would have allowed the fewest goals in the league, and Toby Alderweireld was the team's only defender to play all 38 games. He ranked fourth in the league in clearances and sixth in defensive touches (tackles, clearances, interceptions and blocked shots). Plus, he was crucial to Tottenham's high defensive line, which drew a league-high 46 offside calls.

    Alderweireld also tied for the second-most goals by a defender with four, all off set pieces. The most off-the-wall choice here is Swansea City's Ashley Williams, who led all players with 483 defensive touches this season, 63 more than any other player. He wasn't just a compiler, as he also ranked third on a per-90-minutes basis.

    Now a rumored Arsenal target, Williams ranked in the top five among defenders in clearances, interceptions and shots blocked, and he was also in the top 10 in the percentage of tackles won. And it wasn't like Swansea was always on its heels: The Swans ranked seventh in the league with 52 percent possession.

    Honorable mention: Wes Morgan and Robert Huth were rocks in the center of the Leicester defense, as the only teammates to rank in the top 10 in clearances. Morgan won a higher percentage of tackles than any other defender who played 25 games.

    Full-backs
    Leicester City left-back Christian Fuchs ranked second among defenders with 44 chances created and led the position with 4.9 expected assists. Set pieces were his domain, as he topped defenders with 22 chances created and 2.6 expected assists off such plays.

    Fuchs also piled up defensive stats, sitting second among outside backs in interceptions, third in tackles, and fourth in interceptions, even though he played only 32 games.

    Arsenal's Hector Bellerin shared the lead among defenders with five assists, and he was second with 4.2 expected assists. No defender was more influential in the attacking third, where he led with the position in touches and passes completed, and was fourth in touches per 90 minutes.

    Bellerin wasn't asked to be as active defensively, nor did he need to be, since Arsenal led the league in possession. But he still ranked among the top 30 defenders in both tackles and interceptions this season.

    Honorable mention: Liverpool's Alberto Moreno led defenders with 47 chances created and 37 from open play. Tottenham's Kyle Walker led defenders with 4.4 expected assists from open play, and he ranked sixth in tackles.

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    Hector Bellerin had a standout season for the Gunners.
    Midfielders
    Mesut Ozil didn't make the PFA Team of the Year, but he's the first name on this list. Ozil led the league with 19 assists, one shy of Thierry Henry's Premier League-era record. He only slightly overperformed his expected-assist total of 18.0, which was 5.5 more than any other player in the league.

    Ozil created 144 chances this season, 30 more than any other player. And even removing his set-piece work, he still had 93 chances created, 10 more than anyone else. His 1,046 passes completed in the attacking third were also a stunning 386 more than any other player.

    Defensively, Leicester City's N'Golo Kante was also a no-brainer for this team. The 25-year-old Frenchman was everywhere, leading the league in tackles (125) and passes intercepted (157), both categories typically dominated by defenders. His 397 defensive touches were 78 more than any other midfielder this season.

    His overall touches were almost evenly split between the attacking half (49 percent) and the defensive half (51 percent), and while he drifted to the left third (37 percent of touches), he spent plenty of time on the right third as well (29 percent).

    Kante's Leicester City teammate Riyad Mahrez won the PFA Player of the Year, as the only player to reach double-digits in both goals (17) and assists (11) this season. He may have been fortunate on the goals, with a plus-5.2 goals above average (in terms of expected goals) that was the highest in the league. But his assists were legitimate, slightly below his expected total of 11.6, which was third-best in the league.

    Mahrez also frequently put his team in attacking and scoring positions, drawing the second-most fouls in the league (83), including a league-high 45 in the attacking third.

    Dimitri Payet led West Ham to a seventh-place finish, the club's best spot in the Premier League in 14 years. He shared the team lead with nine goals (with no penalties), and his 12 assists tied for second-most in the league.

    As one of four players to score two goals on direct free kicks this season, Payet did overachieve his expected goals by three, the fifth-highest margin in the league. But his assists were on track, half an assist below his expected total of 12.5, which was the second-highest in the league. His 114 chances created were also second in the league behind Ozil.

    Honorable mention: Tottenham's Christian Eriksen had the third-most chances created overall (111) and the second-most from open-play (83), plus the fourth-highest expected assists total (9.4). In only 25 games for Man City, Kevin De Bruyne was sixth in expected assists (8.7) and tied for fourth in chances created (80).

    Forwards
    With 25 goals this season, Harry Kane became the first Tottenham player to win the Premier League Golden Boot since Teddy Sheringham in 1992-93. Even stripping out his five converted penalties, Kane earned his trophy, leading the league with 19.9 non-penalty expected goals.

    One thing Kane did well was put shots on goal, as 45 percent of his shots were on target, fifth-best of the 74 players with at least 40 shots. He was well above this season's league average of 32 percent and his own previous league rate of 40 percent.

    Leicester City's Jamie Vardy tied for second in the league with 24 goals, and his 30 goals-plus-assists total was the most in the league. Vardy ranked third with 18.1 non-penalty expected goals, and he arguably took better shots than any other forward this season, averaging 0.17 expected goals per non-penalty shot.

    That may not sound high, but it was well above the league average of 0.1 expected goals per non-penalty shot, and it ranked first among those who took at least 40 shots and averaged two shots per game.

    Honorable mention: Romelu Lukaku ranked second in the league in non-penalty expected goals with 19.1 for Everton, and his minus-2.1 goals above average was the worst of any player with at least 10 goals. Man City's Sergio Aguero shared the league lead with 20 non-penalty goals, though his plus-3.5 goals above average was the highest of any forward.
     
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  31. Gunners

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    Great positioning here Hugo :smile:

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  32. NineteenNine

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    match fix-y imo.
     
  33. broXcore

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    this is the kind of important analysis we need
     
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    Someone needs to pick up the load with ace on his sabbatical.
     
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    Sabbatical or bender?
     
  36. IAHusk

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    De Gea just lost a share of the Golden Glove Award on an own goal in the last minute of stoppage time. :facepalm::facepalm::facepalm:
     
  37. Wu

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    Heh.
     
  38. Corky Bucek

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    I guess I should be posting this in the Championship Thread, but Villa has been sold to a Chinese businessman.
     
  39. JonathanCoachman

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    I bet he is very shady but they're probably more than happy to roll the dice as long as Lerner is gone forever.
     
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    Fuck Randy Lerner
     
  41. SugarShaun

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    Stopped at a local ice cream place and there's a car with vanity LCFC and a Leicester window sticker
     
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    Now while I'm waiting some guy yelled cunt out his window while driving down the road
     
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  43. Wu

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    Gunners still loves you.
     
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    <3
    Perfect response.

    It was great, there were 3 teenage girls in line that all started looking at each other trying to figure out who they were yelling at
     
  45. DelapThrows

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    Stoke went the entire league season without a goal from an English player.
     
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  47. NineteenNine

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    Hi, what am I supposed to do on Saturday mornings now?
     
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  48. SugarShaun

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    Farmers market
     
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  49. NineteenNine

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    Not the worst idea you've ever had...although I'm not sure they've fired up around here yet.
     
  50. SugarShaun

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    They go pretty much year round here and move it indoors but I've never gone in the Winter so not sure what that is like.

    Normally will start going once the season ends until sometime in the fall (depending on what the morning lineup looks like)