car buying thread (look at me)

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  1. Nug

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    So I don't return to the PNW until April but I'm legit thinking of trying to finagle a deal where I buy this and keep it at a friend's house until I return. I'm in love with this truck:
    https://www.autotrader.com/cars-for...2d270b3ddd58c0b88e3063efeaf94621116ff8150266c

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    2018, 51K miles, already in Portland.
     
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  2. Bricktop the white

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    That’s the point. Buy a normal car.
     
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  3. harvey birdman

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  4. ButchCassidy

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    They don’t make much profit, right?
    Sucks to lose options and competition.
     
  5. harvey birdman

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    None of them seem to make a profit.
     
  6. theregionsitter

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    Stellantis is having a rough rough 6 months and they need to adjust prices badly, actually feels like a reset to auto prices is coming very quickly. #Deflation

    Who knew that $100,000 Dodge Rams and Jeep Grand Cherokee's were gonna be such a flop....
     
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  7. Mr Mortisay

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    Yeah got my 23 Jeep GC with 3k miles on it for 25k less than the new price sticker from a year before. Like the car though
     
  8. Bricktop the white

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    is the price from the graph the msrp or the actual sale price?
     
  9. NoNatty

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    I hate my wife’s Tahoe. It’s a 2023 with 12k miles. It wouldn’t start today and was throwing out a bunch of weird errors on the dash. Got it jumped, died again.

    I think I’ve finally talked her into getting rid of it. Going to take a loss but don’t even care at this point. Looking at a sequoia tomorrow.
     
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  10. kinghill

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    thoughts on the Mazda CX-5
     
  11. gilstein21

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    I think it beats everything in that size
     
  12. Uncle Tupelo

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    Great Car. Less Cargo and 2nd row space than many of its competitors, but has the most upscale interior and best driving dynamics in its class.

    CX-50 owner here. I like it, but I kind of regret not just getting a CX-5.
     
  13. ramszoolander

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    no idea of current gen, but my in-laws don't take care of cars well, and their like 2010 CX-5 has about 230k on it and still feels rock solid. Makes me regret not getting a 6spd Mazda3 hatch when I had a chance.
     
  14. kinghill

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    good feedback thanks.
    where does one look for private used car sales these days?
    Nug
     
  15. Bricktop the white

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    Facebook marketplace and Craigslist

    it’s worth paying an extra $1200 to not get stabbed by some rando who is probably selling you a car with no catalytic converter
     
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  16. kinghill

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    damn shame where we are now if this is the outlook on private sales
     
  17. ramszoolander

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    I'm curious (as someone selling a car now): aren't those two places where you DO get stabbed by randos???

    Also, anecdotal, but I've gotten tons of hits from FB listing for my car, but absolutely zero on CarGurus and AutoTrader. Pretty interesting but I think those are pretty much dealer tools at this point.
     
  18. Nug

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    Is there a general consensus on how much a dealer will come off the sticker price? Like can you assume a $2,500 - $5,000 reduction with negotiating, or does it just depend on the specifics?
     
  19. danny2430

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    Do you know anybody that works in the car industry? I’d ask for Black book prices

    you can probably get ballpark figures by brand, but are you going to have some specifics in play depending on the dealership.
     
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  20. Det. Frank Bullitt

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    Yes it depends.

    invoice price or price after holdbacks (is that the term?) help to illustrate to you the buyer, how much wiggle room the dealer has between list price and the price they paid for it.
     
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  21. IvanTheTerrible

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    I am in the market for a car after using my bike for a few months - I sold my '13 GX460 last year. Part of me regrets getting rid of it because I loved that SUV. I couldn't handle/justify the gas mileage while traveling to and from New Orleans.

    I don't want a sedan because I love using the cargo space (I'm open to a hatchback). Have any of you considered the Subaru Forester? What other vehicles in that size range should I keep an eye out for? Have any of you purchased a car through Costco Auto's program?
     
  22. ramszoolander

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    The nicest hatchback available is the VW Arteon. It's sort of an odd car that never caught on here. I bet you could get a deal. Just depends if you need something with a tall ride height.
     
  23. pperc

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    The nicest hatchback available is an Audi RS6 Avant imo
     
  24. ramszoolander

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    Fair enough. I forget BMW/Audi have done hatches as of late. RS6 is just a liiiiiiitle more expensive than OP wants to pay, I bet.
     
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  25. pperc

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    I don’t judge lol.

    I think an M5 hatch is on the way to the states
     
  26. ramszoolander

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    Would be badass. Those GT things were (mostly) gross.
     
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  27. Duck Smoker

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    Want this for a 2nd car so bad. Would be amazing where I'm moving to. Not available in the US though b/c we're dumb about cars among many other things.

    [​IMG]
     
  28. pperc

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    love that car
     
  29. kinghill

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    Test drove a CX-5 today. Leaning towards buying used instead of new.
     
  30. Duck70

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    The US has dogshit offerings for Euro wagons and hatchbacks.

    However, in the PNW at least, I have noticed many more used imported AWD wagons recently. I talked to a BMW sales guy who said he has imported over 100 1990-2010 wagons (touring in Euro lingo) in the last two years, said they are going like crazy.
     
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  31. ramszoolander

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    Did you all talk about the 25 year rule? I feel like I see more gray market stuff now that violates that.
     
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  32. CUgator

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    there was an M3 wagon at the BMW museum last summer w this gunmetal paint job that was :dennard:
     
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  33. Duck70

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    Yeah he has figured out some loop holes for sure. He was bringing in a bunch of 335i E90 tourings when i talked to him (first production year ‘08)
     
  34. Duck70

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    That new M3 wagon is sexy af
     
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  35. Marty Kaan

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    Family has had 2 Tundras & 4runner reach 300k miles
    My 4runner reached 200k before I let it go

    research which years are best before you make a choice
     
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  36. Funshot Residue

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    Am on my second Tacoma with over 200k. First was 98, 4cyl, manual. Loved that truck. Frame rot, buyback program (before plating the frame was legal). Current work/farm truck is an 03 V6 Auto with 260k. Complete nostalgia buy. Buddy has one with over 500k on it. Just ridiculous longevity.
     
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  37. ramszoolander

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    Your first one went 0-60 in about ten years if it was 4WD, I bet. One of my friends growing up had a 91 5spd 4 cyl with big tires. I used to "drag race" him up a mountain in my 80s Cadillac. Was basically like gorillas throwing shit at each other.
     
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  38. cdaysker

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    Sold my wife's 2017 Kia Sorento through Carvana. They offered over $3k more to buy it than any dealer could offer, and we didn't have to buy through them either. They came and picked it up yesterday and the money was in our account this morning. The process was as painless as possible, but I agree that I can't see how they make any sort of profit at all.
     
  39. ramszoolander

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    For cars like that which are fairly mass-market, they can do some good deals. I just put in my MB wagon. It's basically half of what it'd sell for on an auction site in even mediocre condition.
     
  40. Nug

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    This was good advice, can't believe I didn't think of it. Everything I had flagged was 2016 and 2017, which most sites suggest avoiding.

    2019 seems to be the winner winner chicken dinner.
     
  41. Marty Kaan

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    I need a new vehicle asap and I'm really struggling to decide which truck I want to get
     
  42. Marty Kaan

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    I'm jekyll & hyde, one day I want to send it and buy something super nice and the next day I'm convinced I just need to keep driving a beater. The prices for vehicles these days are blowing my mind.

    Will I get a better deal on a vehicle if I push off until early summer?
     
  43. Nug

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    I'm hoping this Tacoma lasts me 10 years, will be the longest I've ever owned a car. Have increased my budget to about $30k.

    All financing options I'm seeing on Autotrader are like 7-8%. Is that standard? I don't remember rates being that high, but haven't financed a car since like early 2010s.
     
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  44. hood b. goode

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    Been working hard and spending a lot of time on my freelancing business.

    While the money has mainly been to contribute towards investing / retirement, I am now looking at what reasonably used luxury vehicles i might be able to get around the $20K - 25K threshold

    I know, not much, Im a cheapskate when it comes to cars

    Tldr: Lexus >>>>>> bmw and mercedes in terms of saving on repairs and hidden expenses right?
     
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  45. cdaysker

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    I just got 5.49% through our credit union. The dealer financing they offered was around 5.9%/60 months.
     
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  46. Nug

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    Did you have a pre-existing relationship with them? Didn't think about just going through a local bank/union.
     
  47. Nug

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    I know BMWs are expensive AF to maintain. Most luxury vehicles are, in my experience.

    I had an Audi A6 that wasn't too bad.
     
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  48. cdaysker

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    It's a credit union through my company, but I think most CUs generally have pretty competitive rates
     
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  49. Marty Kaan

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    My mother has a consumer reports subscription. When I have time, I can post reviews of older model vehicles as needed.

    BMW X5 is very highly rated. Lexus always does well; we've had a few of those as well and none of them ever broke down
     
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  50. Marty Kaan

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    I believe that your rate will get adjusted based on your credit & earnings combined. So if you have a good history of income and good credit, you probably can expect for the rate to come down some
     
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