Heavy Music thread

uhh

 

i thought this was decent

 

[not a reference to the Pesci post]

this thread spends more time discussing shitty bands than actual good ones.

 

Agree.

 

here's a good band. this song is heavy as fuck.

i think these guys are from Washington state, for all you PNW folks.

 

We'd give the Tri-Cities to Oregon if we could.

 

And that trend is likely to continue unless Ghost splits up.

 

Don't let them catch you with any Marduk Joe_Pesci



Marduk are currently touring North America. This really bothered some Black Lives Matter and ANTIFA organizations, who are calling for a boycott of their tour, labeling them a Nazi band. While some of the calls for the boycott are endearing, with people asking others to give bad Yelp reviews for the venue, others are calling for all-out violence.

Although the groups involved change all the time (BLM Austin was first promoting this boycott, only to then cowardly remove it once we started asking questions), the reasons that they use are always the same. The apparent author of the stories (which are copy/pasted in every call for a boycott) at least according to BLM Austin, is a Facebook user going by the pseudonym“PuppyMayhem.” We reached out to him, but he refused to answer any questions, opting instead to just block us.

The reasons put forward by BLM and the ANTIFA groups for the boycott are basically the following:

1. “Frontschwein”
According to those calling for the Boycott, “Frontschwein,” the name of Marduk’s tour, and of their latest album “refers to the nickname given to Nazi field marshal Walther Model because he preferred to lead from the front and was known for his abuse and crudity.”

This is just false.

“Frontschwein” was simply a word used to refer to soldiers serving in the frontlines, similar to how English-speaking nations use “grunts” to refer to those serving in combat. The use of this word predates World War II, the Nazis and, of course, Walther Model’s behavior in the War.

2. References to WWII
Since Marduk often reference WWII in their music, this is seen by some as a clear sign of their Nazism. It’s a non-sequitur, since referencing parts of history does not mean that you approve of any of them, but the regressives pushing for the boycott are not going to let that get in the way. They even demonstrate their absolute ignorance of history, geography, and the band they’re boycotting, by claiming that Marduk’s live album “Warschau,” is named after “the site of a Nazi concentration camp during the Holocaust.” At no point did it occur to them that the album is named after the German-name for Warsaw, the city where that album was recorded.

3. Varg Vikernes
I was surprised to see that one of the arguments for the boycott is an interview that I did with Morgan Steinmeyer, the bassist and founder of Marduk. We were talking only a few months after Varg Vikernes‘ conviction for hate speech, following his unlawful arrest under trumped-up terrorism accusations. There Morgan gave what anyone else would see as an absolutely milquetoast statement, saying:

“It’s strange that it’s illegal to dislike a religion. I find it really strange that you can’t have certain views.”

This comment, which basically anyone would see as unremarkable, has been construed as some sort of clear sign of Morgan‘s wicked ways. What they also got from my article, even though it’s never mentioned, was that Morgan was Varg’s housemate, and used that (false) claim as a way to further their point regarding Marduk‘s Nazism. I’m not really sure I follow what they’re trying to say, although I guess they mean that if you have a roommate you immediately share everything they believe in, and are an accomplice to whatever it is they end up doing 30 years after you last shared a roof.

They also go out of their way to point at Varg and repeat some of the propaganda that the French government used against him. It’s atrocious, since it seems to further the points made by a government that used (and continues to use) anti-terrorism legislation and methods to stomp on dissent. Basically the same kind of things ANTIFA and BLM people would criticize if it happened to someone on their side of the political spectrum. Once again, it’s not about principles, it’s about supporters.

4. Incantation
Not wanting to limit their attacks to Marduk alone, they have also extended their hatred to Incantation, one of the opening bands in this tour. Here they point out that Craig Pillard, the singer of Disma, and alleged white supremacist, used to be in the band. They conveniently omit that Pillar was last involved in Incantation‘s music back in 1994, and that Pillard‘s alleged views are not present in Incantation’s music.

Clearly, they’re not about to let facts get in the way of the narrative.

5. Anti-Christianity is just a way to be Antisemitic
Entering squarely into the world of conspiracies, some have argued that Marduk’s overt anti-Christianity is just a cover-up for their anti-semitism. I’m guessing that antisemitism is what took them on tour to Israel.



Without putting forward any evidence, they say that the main theme of the album Panzer-Division Marduk is anti-semitism, and then add some quotes (which they conveniently forget to cite) taken verbatim from the book “Subgenres of the Beast” by Yrgana Kegan, in particular the section where she talks about National Socialist Black Metal. The funny thing is that they somehow missed the fact that only a couple of pages later the author includes Marduk among the bands that have been the victims of false accusations of Nazism and fascism.

As the list above shows, this boycott is completely nonsensical. It’s the result of ignorance about not just the band, but also the world itself. Its idiocy, however, should not merely be a source of amusement for us, but also serve as a clarion call to stand up against the self-appointed regressives who want to be the sole arbiters of the information we receive.

Let’s not give them the chance.

http://www.metalblast.net/blog/the-blm-boycott-marduk/

 

I don't think I've ever listened to their music. Since I'm most likely pirating it anyway, I don't worry much about supporting fascist music. All of those black metal dudes were major assholes in the early 90s, and some probably still are. Vikerness killed a guy, etc. I don't enjoy Filosofem or whatever any less because of it.

 

Also The Sham Mirrors by Arcturus is such a good album. One of those that right from the jump I was like "whoa this is awesome" and I still feel the same way.

 

Edited to add the article.

 

I do like me some Borknagar.

 

the budget for that music video must have been like $100

it's just them in a cabin and video of norway lol

 

"It" has died. Loved some of those Ophthalamia albums from the 90's. He was 45.

 

Do yourself a favor and listen to the albums "Serpent Sermon" or "Wormwood" by Marduk

 

-l- Opus Nocturne -l-

 

I got the same seats for Metallica as my eagles seats, for once being a ticket holder pays off

 

been digging on some doom



Om, too.

 

This dude, Charlie Engen, is a pretty rad drummer. Plays for Scale the Summit and is in another band called Ideology. I've been listening through their album lately, and thought it's too metalcore for my particular tastes, the drums are unbelievable:

 

i dont know anything about this band other than this album popped up in my facebook feed because i follow metalblade records

 

native construct released an instrumental version of their album

 

This "Blackened Grind" album was released today, some appear to be quite giddy about it.

 

Old band, hated them since day one. Odd that 15 year old album is in your feed and not the new Antropomorphia that is due out on Metal Blade in one week.

 

that album and the armored saint one were back to back posts

 

lol this one was in there too

 

Is this the same as the 80s armored saint?

If so they opened for Metallica on the ride the lightning tour along with wasp

Came out on motorcycles

 

Yep, same shitty band.

 

Metallica toured with Wasp? embarrassing

 

is Wasp the band that wore those giant metal codpieces and used angle grinders on them as part of the show?

 

Nothing wrong with WASP. And yes probably, it was the 80s

 

I hear the new Sinister album is pretty dope

 

"In the last week we have read interview after interview with Marduk spanning over the last 20 years and found no statements indicating the band are white supremacists, nationalists, or anti-immigrant. That being said, we don’t want to subject our security staff, venue staff or the public to violence. Our staff is almost exclusively POC and / or LBGTQ and they have all expressed the desire to work, but as we are getting threats, we just can’t risk it. So, in the interest of safety, and because the Oakland Police Department would have insisted anyway, we have canceled the Marduk performance on Feb 18."

 

this documentary is old but good

 

I'm not sure. That should be a link to the spotify web player, but when I click it, it opens the spotify player on my pc... but just to the spotify front page

I think they are all on their youtube account

 

some of marduk's music is quite good. the new album is great.

 

July 12 Sanford Center, Bemidji, MN

July 13 Rock Fest 2017, Cadott, WI (Slayer and Lamb of God on this bill)

July 15 Rock USA 2017, Ford Festival Park, Oshkosh, WI (Slayer and Lamb of God on this bll)

July 16 Chicago Open Air Festival, Toyota Park, Chicago, IL (Slayer, Lamb of God and Behemoth on this bill)

July 18 Express Live!, Columbus, OH

July 20 Red Hat Amphitheater, Raleigh, NC

July 21 St. Augustine Amphitheater, St. Augustine, FL

July 23 Electric Factory Outdoors, Philadelphia, PA

July 25 Blue Hills Bank Pavilion, Boston, MA

July 27 Theater at Madison Square Garden, New York, NY

July 28 Pier Six Pavilion, Baltimore, MD

July 30 Municipal Auditorium, Nashville, TN

August 1 Providence Medical Center Amphitheater, Bonner Springs, KS

August 2 1stBank Center, Denver, CO

August 4 The Joint, Las Vegas, NV

August 5 The Forum, Los Angeles, CA

August 9 Bill Graham Civic Auditorium, San Francisco, CA

August 11 The Cuthbert Amphitheater, Eugene, OR

August 12 WaMu Theatre, Seattle, WA

August 14 Encana Events Center, Dawson Creek, BC CANADA

August 15 SMS Equipment Stadium, Fort McMurray, AB CANADA

August 17 KettleHouse Amphitheater, Missoula, MT

August 19 Isleta Amphitheater Albuquerque, NM

August 20 Comerica Theater, Phoenix, AZ

 

Jari is back. This is the insufferable twit that says he can't release albums unless his fans buy him a new studio with a sauna. He's been dicking his fans and record label around for 5 years about a new release. Their label, NUCLEAR BLAST, have already paid him for a new album.

Jari has also mentioned in the past that the fans need to sign up to pay them yearly salaries, each band member needs to make what the average "family" makes per year. So don't think for a second this massive douche is going to stop at just getting a personal studio built.

 

I think most of his popularity comes from being on the first couple Ensiferum albums. Another overrated band.

 

i would consider going to that slayer/lamb of god/behemoth show in eugene if lamb of god were the headliners

90+ minutes of slayer doesn't sound like a very good time. hanneman is dead, araya and king are in their 50s, dave lombardo is not in the band,

 

In theory, Soundgarden is made up of good musicians, at least.

I haven't listened to much Dillinger, and none of the other band

 

my favorite Dillinger song is