Someone correct me if I’m wrong, but pretty sure there’s a little more precedence for the North. It’s geographically more isolated, was separate for “thousands of years,” very culturally different, and has sound reasons for never wanting to die for the kingdom again. The Starks are also in the ascendancy at the moment. It seems like there’s more mutual benefit for the other kingdoms to remain united, too.
Did anyone like how Tyrion was somewhat mirroring his father in the small council meeting. Same setup, same seat. Trying to have that same commanding presence but to no avail.
This is not necessarily correct. It might be that this is what GRRM intended to happen with the Starks, but there is prior in-universe precedent for a woman passing on her family name to a child. https://www.polygon.com/game-of-thr...ries-finale-bran-house-stark-arya-sansa-books
Dorne not piping up demanding independence makes sense to me in that they were always opposed to the Lannisters specifically, and that threat is gone.
I don't know that it's fair to say the North is more geographically isolated than, say, Dorne or the Iron Isles. Dorne never submitted to Targaryn conquest when the rest of Westeros did, including the Starks in the North who bent the knee (Dorne entered into the Seven Kingdoms ~100 years later peacefully through a marriage pact). The Iron Islands were in open rebellion within living memory (in the ASOIAF events). Yes the North worships the old gods, which is a cultural difference, but Dornish are also quite culturally distinct due to the Rhoynish heritage. So I take your point that the Starks are ascendant, but there is no more of a reason for the North to be independent or wish for independence than at least two of the remaining six kingdoms.
Except that they were independent far longer than any of those other houses, fought against any attempt to coerce them, and only joined after inter-marrying with the Targaryens(Daeron the good, grandfather to 'Egg' and Maester Aemon and princess Daenerys marrying the Martell prince of Dorne). They have no vested stake in the Starks or anyone else, and have always played by different rules than the rest of Westeros. But, whatever, the show shat on Dornish traditions/rules from the beginning so IDK
this is not true. Dorne always fought for its independence. even after Aegon conquered the seven kingdoms Dorne refused to kneel.
And that has nothing to do with the conversation we were having. Congrats on finding common ground with Dump
According to Fire & Blood, about 99% of everyone that sails west of Westeros never returns. The couple that did return got to a certain point and turned back because of storms. So it’s likely Arya is sailing to her death
I think Martell was thinking the same thing everybody was. "Bran yeah sure fine fuck it cool whatever" -gathering of Lords -self-respecting fans of the series
A friend pointed out that the unknown dude sitting between Sam and Edmure is probably some stand-in vassal from the Reach
I’ll never forgive D&D for cramming 3-4 seasons worth of material into 14 episodes. The fans and characters deserved better.
I would’ve taken a few less dragon scenes honestly. It was incredible how they made Drogon into an actual character in the show, but I would gladly take ten episodes this season if it meant not having dragons in the nazi rally, playing napping bouncer and letting Jon pass, the magical fairytale Aladdin magic carpet ride flight in episode 1, etc. If cutting that stuff meant even one more episode to help the pacing out, that would’ve been a better call
go to the 18 minute mark exactly and it says that he is the 998 and 1,000th commander of the nights watch, and this guy would know he gets residuals from HBO itself
when you see all the boats take off from the Bay you can clearly see a "wake" behind 2 of the boats from the engines
best case scenario: George releases Winds in the next year or so, releases Dream in the next decade, and then a new series is greenlit after that, adapted by a new team that covers the books entirely (Jon Con, fAegon, Asha, etc)
Theme used for Arya sailing away was the same they used at the end of Season 4, The Children, as she sets off for Essos. One of my favorite scenes in the show and a perfect send off for her. I was a little confused about the theme used when Jon walked the wildlings north of the wall—wasn’t it the same as Dany’s sailing west theme at the end of season six?
I just shazam'd the ep and it gave me titles, Id imagine it's on that same playlist those videos come from but I cant check it currently if you dont find it by like 9 or 10 tonight let me know and I can do it when im off work
I went back and checked and there was a big dump of spoilers after episode three. It correctly predicted everything in the final three episodes. Before the season there was a mixed bag with some outright wrong predictions
Thinking back to the spoilers I read like 9 months ago that I scoffed at and passed off as ridiculous fanfic, they were pretty much all wrong but it turns out I would have enjoyed that more and been more satisfied with that than how this all actually ended up.
Posted in the Stan thread but it's better suited for here so sharing below. Dothraki leaderg killed by infection due to his newly acquired wife's impulses. They then agreed to cross a sea for the first time because their new first-ever female leader wants them to. They're the first people sent to fight the zombies (without dragon glass weapons) and get mostly slaughtered doing so. They then agreed to hop on more ships and go to a place they've probably never even heard of to attack a castle that means nothing to them. They win and then the female leader they've followed across the map gets murdered by her lover. And now they're presumably stuck in a foreign land without a leader. And we don't even hear from or see them ever again to know how they feel about it.
That’s a fake edit. Not the same. D&D made plenty of mistakes and terrible decisions without us manufacturing fake ones.