2023 NFL Draft Thread

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  1. southlick

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  2. Hank Scorpio

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    Lions 2023 draft is so wild
     
  3. BudKilmer

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    Lmfao at how Iowa misused LaPorta, guy is elite
     
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  5. Bricktop the white

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    Anyone who isnt a rube saw young busting from a mile away.
     
  6. MG2

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    I am keeping my Bryce Young stock
     
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  7. Fecta23

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    This is kinda of the rub with RBs though, I think he might already be the best back in the league...but the Falcons still suck.
     
  8. Redav

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    Yeah it's a wasted pick. Congrats on having a great RB on a team that won't make the playoffs
     
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  9. Hank Scorpio

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    You mean you can't sit in a clean pocket for 8 seconds until you find an open receiver in the NFL?
     
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  10. Bricktop the white

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    And you can't rely on your recievers being significantly better than virtually every db?

    Talkin crazy out here
     
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  11. tylerdolphin

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    They'd also still suck if they picked a really good anything that's not a QB
     
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  12. tylerdolphin

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    I think anyone who has extremely strong opinions on how top 5 pick QBs careers will go in either direction are rubes
     
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  13. Hank Scorpio

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    I think anyone who has opinions about people who have opinions about how top 5 QBs careers will go are rubes

    :awesomeface:
     
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  14. MG2

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    If they didn't have Robinson, I'm not sure how they would move the ball. And I'm not sure who they could have taken with that pick that would have helped them move the ball more than him.
     
  15. Redav

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    Well you could use the pick on a far more valuable position
     
  16. BudKilmer

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    don’t look at who was on the board when we took Kyle Pitts and Drake London!!
     
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  17. BudKilmer

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    Being a falcons fan is like riding a roller coaster at action park. It might be fun but it’s more likely something horrible, grotesque or painful happens
     
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  18. tylerdolphin

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    I think they definitely should have taken Fields just because you need to be taking shots at it if you don't have a QB, but it's not like Fields' career to date has them regretting passing on him.
     
  19. MG2

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    I don't think the lack of making the playoffs had anything to do with who they picked and has everything to do with a different decision, which was to bet this season (and possibly longer) on a QB who doesn't seem to be good enough.
     
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  20. tylerdolphin

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    That's fair and I agree that pass rusher, CB, OT, WR are more valuable positions. But I think "they aren't winning because with Bijan" is a bad critique of the pick when that can apply to basically anyone available to them at 8 this year
     
  21. Redav

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    If you get into something like WAR, running backs are near the bottom of all position groups. It's like drafting a center with the 8th pick
     
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  22. tylerdolphin

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    Yeah no argument there (although I do believe elite level RBs are undervalued today). Just saying that, say, Jalen Carter, even as great as he's been, isn't getting Atlanta anywhere this year. He'd have been a better pick long term though
     
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  23. BudKilmer

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    Atlanta sucks with Bijan

    Atlanta would suck with whomever we took at 8 unless Stroud fell

    Atlanta sucks bc the right tackle is a shit show and the Qb is a disaster at best right now.
     
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  24. The Banks

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    Witherspoon or Gonzalez for DROY? Both have been absolutely outstanding for rookie corners.
     
  25. dblplay1212

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    Write in for Jalen Carter
     
  26. Corch

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    Probably Jalen Carter
     
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  27. DetroitNole

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    Brian Branch is definitely in that mix
     
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  28. Gaknight

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    I’m a homer and love Bijan but CMC exists
     
  29. Gaknight

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    Ignore certain Falcons fans who will complain about everything. Without Bijan I would have already jumped off the pencil building.
     
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  30. Gunners

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    He might end up good and putting a skinny rookie on AJ Brown with little pressure on Hurts but Emmanuel Forbes kinda sucks so far
     
  31. Fecta23

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    Yes, big mistake on my part.
     
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  32. zeberdee

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    Carter is a monster but he’s only playing like 40-50% of the snaps right now.

    he’s producing in that time but it will be tough to keep up DROY numbers at DT with that kind of share.
     
  33. zeberdee

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    also I think Gonzalez has a pretty significant injury.
     
  34. Lip

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    interesting. I liked his fight in the game on Sunday
     
  35. kennypowers

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    It’s so early. I remember during Trevor’s rookie year there were times when Zach Wilson and even Mac Jones were playing better than him and people were starting to whisper bust. I’m not saying he’s ever going to be better than Stroud and maybe stroud should have been the pick all along, but it’s super early to take a firm stance either way.
     
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  36. WC

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    Yea Ohio states WRs have typically sucked
     
  37. PSU12

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    Carter and Witherspoon are -110 and +175, and Gonzalez is +3000 currently
     
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  38. dblplay1212

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    Gonzalez was the 2nd lowest odds last week but he may be out for the season now, that's why they shot up.
     
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  39. Bricktop the white

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    Lawrence is also a bust
     
  40. kennypowers

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  41. Fecta23

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    This is true and a good counter, I think my best argument against taking a RB that high in the first is this:

    Assuming you are a bad team a RB will not make a tangible difference on you being bad or good. Usually if you are this bad it will take you 3-4 years to become good? Then you have maybe 1-2 years of that RB on workable contract, if hes been the best RB in the league he is gonna want a lot of money and paying RBs a lot of money is stupid.

    If you draft an elite CB/T/DE at that pick you will want to resign them after the rookie deal.

    So best case scenario you have that RB making an impact on a winning team for 2 years.

    If you are an already good team Im much more onboard taking a RB as a final piece.
     
  42. MG2

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    It doesn't take 3-4 years in the NFL to go from bad to good. The Lions had a bottom 2 roster in the league coming out of 2020 and almost made the playoffs in 2022 with Jared Goff at QB. The Falcons right now would be the clear favorite to win that division if they had the 16th best QB in the league instead of a bottom 5 QB, in part because of Robinson and what he does for them.
     
  43. Redav

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    Think Chubb has the highest war at RB or did at one time and he didn't even make 1 win of difference
     
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  44. Bricktop the white

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    Rb positional value is so bad and their longevity so short that they honestly need to undo the rookie pay scale for them since we are likely at the end of rbs ever getting big contracts again
     
  45. Fecta23

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    So they might make the playoffs in...year 3?
     
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  46. MG2

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    Sure. They had the fourth-best point differential in the NFC and lost a tie-breaker to miss the playoffs last year. They were pretty good. Either way, Atlanta in April of 2023 wasn't close to as bad as Detroit in April of 2021. And it definitely isn't bad enough as a roster that it should take 3-4 years before it can make the playoffs unless the QB is actively sabotaging them.
     
  47. tylerdolphin

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    Miami was picking top 5 in the 2020 draft and in the playoffs in 2022
     
  48. Fecta23

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    Im slightly changing the argument to be Atlanta specific, but they had the third best rushing offense in the NFL last year (not even top 10 this year,, maybe the OL is the issue?) and a top 10 worst defense. Taking a RB makes ZERO sense.
     
  49. Fecta23

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    So it took them 3 years to make the playoffs?
     
  50. 20/20/20/20

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    Witherspoon and then probably Trey Palmer for OROY?
     
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