And the new Batman is...

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  1. Beeds07

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  2. Jack Parkman

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  3. Beeds07

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    Hill is still in talks but the idea has always been multiple villains.
     
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  4. Lenin

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  5. ShuPoor

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    Hathaway is one of the few bright spots in Rises, and is arguably the best female character Nolan has ever had in one of his movies :twocents:
     
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  6. Lenin

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    That doesn’t mean she was good
     
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    Wait, you shitheads don't like Rises, or Hathaway in Rises? Awesome. Way to be the caricature.
     
  8. dallasdawg

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    hathaway was awesome

    shut the fuck up dump
     
  9. JeremyLambsFace

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    TDKR was awesome fuck the haters
     
  10. theregionsitter

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    I liked Bane and Hathaway

    plot sucked but those characters were great
     
  11. Celemo

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    forgot about this thread, here for the Long Halloween love
     
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  12. Celemo

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    With them doing The Long Halloween series, a Dark Victory sequel would be pretty fucking cool as well
     
  13. bigpig

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    If there was ever a way to bring Robin into a serious Batman story, that was it.
     
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  14. Jack Parkman

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  15. TrustyPatches

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    Now let’s move on to Danny Devito.

    I pray to Danny Devito because he’s never let me down
     
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  16. ShuPoor

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    It's been done. It was fantastically great. Don't do it again.
     
  17. TrustyPatches

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    Rhea Perlman?
     
  18. IanBoyd

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    The plothole of Bruce Wayne faking his death and nobody in the world recognizing him aside, TDKR was probably as good of a film as TDK, it just didn't have anything close to Ledger's performance.
     
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  19. ShuPoor

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    What a damning indictment of TDK
     
  20. Jack Parkman

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  21. IanBoyd

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    Ledger's performances inflates TDK's overall perception, replace Ledger with just an okay Joker, its probably the weakest of the Nolan trilogies. Both Batman Begins and TDKR were better movies imo.

    But that's like saying take away RDJ's performance as Tony Stark, Iron Man 1 is basically The Incredible Hulk.
     
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  22. Bo Pelinis

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    Batman Begins was the best movie. TDK had the best character and is just amazingly fun cinema. Rises is meh to quite meh.
     
  23. zeberdee

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    if we're doing superlatives we can give Rises the best opening scene.
     
  24. Jack Parkman

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    Over the joker bank robbery? Idk..
     
  25. JeremyLambsFace

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    Yeah wtf
     
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  26. ShuPoor

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    Every cop in Gotham getting stuck in the same sewer pipe is a major plot point in TDKR. As is Bruce getting his broken back fixed by dangling from a rope harness. A hallucination of Ras al Ghul reveals new information to Bruce while he's in jail. That movie is a mess.

    I'm pretty positive that wasn't at all the movie they wanted to make, you'd have to imagine Joker was going to figure pretty heavily in their original third movie. So you kind of need to grade TDKR on a curve, but even then it's just so poorly paced and there's so much bizarre shit in it. It's an immense step down from the rest of the trilogy.
     
  27. IanBoyd

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    TDKR had a better story than TDK, Knightfall being portrayed on screen with a broken Batman is way more interesting than the nth retelling of "Bats gets introduced to Joker".
     
  28. ShuPoor

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    This is an incredibly reductive version of TDK
     
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  29. IanBoyd

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    It is, but I'm just using it to illustrate of my personal opinion of TDK vs TDKR; I liked TDKR's storyline better. While being a tighter film with less plotholes, nothing in TDK stood out to me much outside of Ledger's scenes. The Harvey Dent B plot was pretty bland to me.
     
  30. zeberdee

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    yea, I'm an idiot
     
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  31. IanBoyd

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    How I personally view/grade movies on order of importance.

    1. What story are they trying to tell - TDKR to me had a better story to tell than TDK, so its already starting from a higher scale
    2. How well they did tell that story - TDK told its story better than TDKR told its, but TDKR didn't completely fumble it (imo)
    3. How did the actors portray the characters in that story. - No competition, Ledger's Joker is one of the single best acting performances ever and is why TDK has more acclaim than the other two Nolan films from the media and the masses.

    Because to me TDKR had the better story and didn't fumble its execution of it that much, it would have had needed some really subpar acting in it for me to consider TDK the better film even though it had Ledger's Joker.
     
  32. TrustyPatches

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    Begins imo is the best of the bunch and my personal favorite comic book film. It also got me into comics/graphic novels as a 22 year old when I had never given them a chance before. TDK is amazing but it failed to stick the landing. Rises is still better than 95% of the marvel stuff for me.
     
  33. BP

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    It was a great movie but a wasted opportunity. Bane was turned into a henchman and the plot didn't do justice to the comicbook storyline.
     
  34. IanBoyd

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    JGL and the Gotham under a warlord's rule stuff was decent enough imo.
     
  35. Jack Parkman

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  36. Nelson

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    BB+TDK are as good as it gets from this genre

    TDKR is wonderful in so many set pieces and the Batman story it tried to tell is a fitting piece for the character arc. But it’s just so incoherent at times. The plot holes, the tacky and cheap Occupy and NFL stuff, Catwoman character seemed thin despite Hathaway’s best efforts, the whole city on lockdown was clunky.
     
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  37. Tex

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  38. AIOLICOCK

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    The Dark Knight Rises is pretty awful tho
     
  39. Bo Pelinis

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    Pretty easily my least favorite Nolan movie.
     
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    I can agree with this. I felt it was a fitting ending to the character which is why I like it so much but the movie is a bit of a mess.
     
  41. Bruce Wayne

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    He creeped me out so much in Prisoners
     
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  42. bro

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    Paul Dano is awesome
     
  43. bro

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    He is somehow creepier in There Will be Blood
     
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  44. TrustyPatches

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    Yeah I think Dano is a solid casting.
     
  45. AIOLICOCK

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    Which is impressive considering Nolan has done some real horseshit over the years
     
  46. Lyrtch

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    alright you got me i'm excited for this new batman
     
  47. Bo Pelinis

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    Oh you
     
  48. Emma

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    DKR was pretty average for me unfortunately
     
  49. Celemo

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    TDKR sucked
     
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  50. skiedfrillet

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    I enjoyed TDKR and I still enjoy it on TNT at 2pm occasionally
     
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