Bad Police Thread - where calling the police is a gamble

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  1. electronic

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    What about the statement of the US Postal Inspector in Louisville to a reporter on the record saying that there was no suspicious mail going to her house, and that he actually wasn’t asked to even verify if Glover was getting packages there?

    Are those facts?
     
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  2. nexus

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    Normally I just visit this site for sports talk and laughs but legal expertise from renowned genius and very normal human being Illini is truly an added bonus
     
  3. Mister Me Too

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    It’s only a fact if it helps the police not when it helps the murdered unarmed black person.
     
  4. Illinihockey

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    That was May 16th which was days after the shooting.

    This was published on August 26th

    https://www.wbay.com/2020/08/26/war...ylors-ex-boyfriend-amid-leaked-new-documents/
     
  5. Fire Jimbob

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  6. electronic

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    This is a weird way of admitting that your post questioning my understanding of facts was wrong, but I'll take it, I suppose.


    Please tell me where this is wrong, factually:
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  7. Lyrtch

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    the two cops being shot not being publicized widely at all is truly bizarre, now they charged someone, usually cops and the right wing ecosystem (one in the same mostly) would be going nuts about this
     
  8. Pile Driving Miss Daisy

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    If they've already charged someone, do we know who it is? Like you posted earlier, wouldn't be shocked if was some bogaloo piece of shit.
     
  9. 941Gator

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    Is that established? That happens a lot.
    We had a Frank’s hearing pre-covid. LEO’s said that the CI made a buy on 8/12/19 in the evening. They didn’t realize our guy had a camera. No one comes to the door that night. They then argued that our video footage was fake based on the time the sunset in the video. Anything they have to do to protect their own after being caught in a lie.
     
  10. duc15

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    when it’s a fellow teammate in the boogaloos it hurts your arguments i’d guess
     
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  11. Illinihockey

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    I thought the same thing, that it would be plastered all over this morning but woke up and nothing
     
  12. AlternativeFactsRule

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  13. electronic

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    Yeah, they have released the name and mugshot. Would be very surprised if he was alt-right, which makes the silence that much more baffling.
     
  14. Popovio

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    Yeah the officer said a CI bought meth from the house, but it never happened. She (the officer) was charged and then acquitted. I guess it didn't matter that her lie almost killed a baby.

    https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.nbcnews.com/news/amp/ncna479361
     
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  15. nexus

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    14 counts? There must have been drywall everywhere
     
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  16. 941Gator

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    Protect the shield. Pretty amazing how these agencies turn very nice, honorable, captain America types into scumbag liars. The “coolest” cop on a local force here (I even know him personally) lied about the location of a gun in a house recently. I’ll never look at him the same.
     
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  17. spagett

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    Basically the same thing
     
  18. Beeds07

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    You're basing every opinion you have on the one witness that contradicts all the other, which surprisingly, makes it easier to lick cop boots. Good to know your dumb ass takes arent limited to pandemics and politics. Not sure why i am the least bit surprised this is who you are.

    You know as much as the rest of us, yet you're more than willing to die on the she deserved it hill, despite all the evidence that for a few simple, fixable police errors, this could have been prevented.

    I wanted to tag you because in the fact of evidence and recoboration, you would refuse to budge, and you didn't disappoint.
     
  19. Illinihockey

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    You might want to actually read about the case instead of basing your opinion off of Twitter hot takes. They banged on the door, the two of them got up to see what it was, the door was knocked open, he shot one of the cops, two of them immediately returned fire one of them hit Taylor who was standing in the hall with Walker, the third cop unloaded his gun blindly into the building. Those are the undisputed facts, not things incorrectly tweeted out that people are still putting in this thread. They didn’t Fred Hampton her.
     
  20. Mister Me Too

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    If they really knocked and identified themselves why in the world did they retreat and head back outside? Here’s the 911 call from the boyfriend who still did not know that it was the cops at the door. You tell people not to go off what they see on Twitter but you come here with idiotic takes that you got from Breibart and other right wing propaganda sites.

     
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  21. Illinihockey

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    because one of them got shot, that’s why they retreated. I don’t think Walker knew it was the cops, that’s why I’ve been saying this has been a giant fuck up. dblplay1212 has been saying the same thing. Walker himself said they got up because someone was banging on the door. Here is a recounting from the local news not from breitbart.


    https://www.courier-journal.com/sto...-timeline-breonna-taylor-shooting/3467112001/
     
  22. Daniel Ocean

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    What are you doing here?
     
  23. spagett

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    Scoffing at a ridiculous comparison. Thought that obvious.
     
  24. Mister Me Too

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    Ok, they were banging on the door, what does that prove? Do you really not understand that kicking a door in requires that someone bangs on the door? And the banging is as irrelevant as the article you linked, because the issue at hand is the fact that they did not identify themselves. You’re obviously a piece of shit who will find a way to justify every police shooting of unarmed black people, so don’t bother responding, I’m blocking you so I don’t have to read your Stormfront hot takes.
     
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  25. Illinihockey

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    The banging is relevant because someone said she was shot in her sleep, this is inaccurate. This was a fuck up because they had a warrant that allowed them to knock down the door and we live in a country where everyone has guns. They didn’t ambush her in a parking lot or illegally break in and open fire on people sleeping in their bed.
     
  26. Daniel Ocean

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    I didn’t think you were this much of an asshole so I was hoping I’d missed something.
     
  27. spagett

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    One man's too much asshole is another man's not enough asshole. Or just enough asshole... JEA
     
  28. Daniel Ocean

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    If you’re just going to be a POS fuck off.
     
  29. spagett

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    Chill out

    You overreacted because you're so entrenched. It's understandable, but you're taking this way too hard
     
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  30. Daniel Ocean

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    Black people in America have always been shown their lives matter less. Those were two innocent individuals whose lives were ended for no reason. Their murders were told it was okay to kill them because their lives were not worth anything. Your reaction to the pain anger was to be a condescending asshole.

    So again youre being a pos. Like I said I’ve always found you to be a decent individual so you being an asshole itt surprised me and I was hoping I’d missed something. But, if I didn’t and you’re just trying to be a pos then kindly fuck off.
     
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  31. spagett

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    You interpreted my post as "he doesn't care about the Breonna Taylor" situation which is not true and that happened because you're so entrenched and conditioned to react strongly to anything that resembles a right-wing opinion.

    So when someone says its ridiculous to compare the lynching of a kid to the Breonna Taylor situation, you think they're automatically against you and your cause. You're wrong in this case.
     
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  32. spagett

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    And this is straight up bullshit

    It was a reaction to a fucking tweet
     
  33. NCHusker

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    It's almost like the point is hey look how little progress we've made in all this time but what do I know
     
  34. Lyrtch

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    imagine missing the point of criminal justice system critiques this badly AND getting super arrogant about it
     
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  35. BWC

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    Might need a temporary ban on Illini posters until we can figure out what the hell is going on with them.
     
  36. Illinihockey

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    It doesn't even have to resemble a right wing opinion. Saying a white mob targeting and murdering a black child for talking to a white woman is not the same as an innocent woman dying in a gunfight precipitated by a botched police raid is not some hardcore right wing stance. Breonna Taylor being shot is a horrible tragedy, but acting as if this was premeditated murder based upon her race just isn't an actual reflection of what happened.
     
  37. Lyrtch

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    the criminal justice system in both cases was positioned away from acquiring justice or having any semblance of repercussions for the perpetrators

    arguing that because the system worked as its structured and intended makes it ok is the same arguments for upholding apartheid, Jim Crow, etc. it's silly.
     
  38. spagett

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    K I'm done bye
     
  39. Lyrtch

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    thank you for letting everyone know, i'll update the registry
     
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  40. Daniel Ocean

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    you made light of the tweet that was voicing pain and anger. This is your first reply to me asking you what you were doing. Again two innocent black people were killed and their murders were told it’s okay because “black lives are worthless in the US”. Your reaction was to make light of the pain some feel. You’re being an asshole which again seemed unlike you.

     
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  41. Illinihockey

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    In the Taylor case how should the justice system be positioned? If your point is it should be a lot harder to get a search warrant or that no knock warrants should be banned, you'll get no argument from me. If you want to say the war on drugs is preposterous and causes a disproportionate harm on minority communities I'll agree as well.
     
  42. Lyrtch

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    Sure.

    The judge who approved the raid should also face repercussions.

    This in no way changes that the justice system devalues black lives at multiple points and largely disregards the risks involved with their actions because of that while ALSO protecting the people in charge at multiple levels from facing any repercussions for these actions. This is the entire point of making these critiques systemic, it wasn't just two guys killing Emmett Till that set off America, it was that the system itself was crafted to guarantee they were acquitted despite obviously committing the crime. Basically everyone knew the cops and others in power weren't face repercussions for Breonna Taylors murder, because the system ensures this outcome, it incentivizes it.

    Making value judgements about well two people killing Till was worse is irrelevant (and also misguided).
     
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  43. Daniel Ocean

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    Moreover it’s not just about those two cases. The heartbreaking coincidence that these two cases are linked 65 years apart are why they’re mentioned together. But there are countless examples of the judicial system saying “fuck black people” to attempt to make it solely about those two cases is disingenuous bullshit. The pain anger goes beyond these individuals but they are just a slap in the face.
     
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  44. Beeds07

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    I'm fairly certain he will think that this doesn't match the police reports, you know, the reports from cops who barely filled out an original report, who tried to blackmail Taylor's boyfriend to change his story and doesn't match the eyewitness accounts. Illinihockey keeps saying it's a tragedy, but it isn't. It's a goddamn conspiracy and this "oh procedure" bullshit he's playing is such an obvious ploy.

    Not sure why I expected Mr. Bad Take to finally get it on this one. What I didn't expect was such a taste for shoe polish.
     
  45. Illinihockey

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    Is it your opinion if Taylor was another race that the outcome would have been different? Both situationally and legally and if so, why?
     
  46. Lyrtch

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    are you a prosecutor or have some other familial or professional tie to cops

    but also you really about to argue the criminal justice system isn't racially biased? especially the war on drugs?
     
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  47. TylerDurden

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    For fucks sake Illinihockey

    a cop killed an unarmed woman in her bed and was only charged for the shots he missed


    Fuck off with semantics you fucking twat
     
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  48. Illinihockey

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    Fuck no I'm not going to argue the justice system isn't racially biased. We aren't talking about the system as a whole though, we are talking about this case. Not every case is the same and shouldn't be judged under one standard. In this case, cops served a no knock search warrant and busted into someones house. That person opened fire on them and they shot back hitting someone standing near the shooter. Its a terrible tragedy, but this wasn't the cops shooting an unarmed man in the back as he fled, this wasn't the cops beating someone to death because they were scared he might be armed. Do you think if the cops busted into a white, asian, latinos, etc house and came under fire they would have acted in a different manner? I'll save you the time, the answer is no because it happened not very long ago

    https://www.huffpost.com/entry/jose-guerena_n_3988658

    In this case, the problem is no-knock raids should be banned.

    "Across the U.S., the number of no-knock searches has increased from 3,000 in 1981 to 60,000 today, according to Kraska, and the results have included avoidable deaths, gruesome injuries and multimillion-dollar legal settlements at taxpayer expense.

    The New York Times found that between 2010 and 2016, 31 civilians and eight officers died in the execution of no-knock warrants, while the libertarian Cato Institute has reported that 40 bystanders have been killed since the early 1980s."
     
  49. Illinihockey

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    She literally wasn't in her bed, the guy that got charged wasn't the one that shot her. The two officers that went into the house were the ones that hit her.
     
  50. Illinihockey

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    The FBI is still investigating this for civil rights violation right? If these no knock raids, usually officers end up facing civil rights violation charges more often than murder charges.