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Discussion in 'The Mainboard' started by shaolin5, Jan 20, 2020.
Don’t check The Lancet remdesivir publication out today…
To be honest I’m not up to date on new findings/studies and as much as I’d like to, I don’t read medical journals. Good or bad?
I am going to try and field this one. Neither good nor bad, just that a new study says there is no notable difference with patients that take it and patients that don’t.
“In conclusion, remdesivir might have a clinically meaningful benefit in well selected patients that deserves further exploration. It will be important to compare its clinical effects with those of approved monoclonal antibodies. However, remdesivir's potential benefit in addition to steroids and other approved immunomodulators such as baricitinib and tocilizumab is highly uncertain. As findings from DisCoVeRy show an absence of effect on late clinical status and mortality, there is no reason to advocate remdesivir use outside of clinical trials.”
It doesn’t work very well, if at all. At best, extremely modest effect. I think generally what was expected. See above.
Not a surprise based on what I’ve seen.
Didn’t his whole family fuck around and find out?
Before the vaccine was available
before the vaccine was even remotely available and he’s literally mocking the anti vax dipshits there
Wife who is 8 months pregnant just got shot #2 today. #blessed
gotta be relieving to hear not only for her but also for the baby being protected too
Great job America
USA USA USA
Spain is so great
prosperous democracies? lol that ain't us
Time to visit Portugal..
As a result, Americans across the political spectrum are relying on pieces of information, like an announcement by Israel’s Ministry of Health in July that the effectiveness of the Pfizer-BioNTech vaccine against symptomatic infection — though not against serious illness — waned over time. Others have trusted their intuition, whether that means taking dangerous livestock medications to “cure” the virus or seeking a booster before it is officially recommended.
“This is a result of poor risk communication and lack of political and scientific transparency over the last 18 months,” said Rachael Piltch-Loeb, a researcher and fellow in public health emergency preparedness and response at the Harvard School of Public Health. “It is also a reflection of people feeling a total lack of control of what is happening in society at this point. One of the things that they can do to protect themselves is to take science into their own hands.”
Rachael, for a Harvard researcher you’re a god damn idiot.
Full thread is worth a read.
Excellent, feels like this builds on earlier data showing that younger vaccinated people continue to have immunity against hospitalization doesn't it?
What we really just need to watch for at this point is if/when it wanes in people under 65
Is she that wrong? We've gotten so many mixed messages about if, when, and what boosters we may or may not be getting. It was going to be recommended at 8 months post second does, then six, then five, and now it's ??? Eric Topol at least seemed to strongly suggest that anyone over 65 should be getting a booster first; I think the amount of people seeking out boosters is much lower than the number of doses that are going to expire over the next month.
The protection still seems to be strong.
I think one thing we have to watch and be aware of is that amongst the older, any kind of symptomatic infection could land them in hospital. For anything.
i dont understand the "only older people should get boosters" stuff in context of worrying about supplies. we have more than enough
It's almost like the messaging on boosters has been really really bad. That being said this is an insane false equivalency
yeah that's whack
i want a boostie so bad why can't these idiots just figure it out
For the US and other wealthy countries, not for the rest of the world.
It doesn’t make sense to give boosters to younger people when so few have been given out in Africa, for example. That’s where your next variant will come from.
I know it’s anecdotal, but four people in my office — all of whom are 60+ and fully vaccinated — tested positive for COVID last week. They thankfully have mild symptoms and only one guy can’t smell or taste.
I don’t know whether to push my parents to get a booster because it seems to me like more older people are catching it now.
He lost 7 family members, including his mother, to Covid before the vaccine was even close to ready. I'm shocked he even played last season.
pperc knows better, but its my understanding that if they hadn't previously had covid we are in the time frame where the efficacy from older people's first two shots is starting to fade in regards to preventing infection. But its still doing a great job at preventing severe infections (if there are no other major factors).
My pops got his booster last week. My mom is getting hers next week. Both in their 70's. It's been 8 months for both of them.
Is this their attempt at a cool lounge feel?
you're also born with a baby dick
And prone to dying if you don't get constant attention.
lol fucking idiots
I got a take.....the FDA/CDC doesn't want the pandemic to end...that's the only thing that explains their decisions
This is dramatic. Booster shots are the least of our worries wrt vaccinations. They're important, don't get me wrong. But your take is drastic considering the current data.
1. Get unvaccinated people vaccinated (ie force them to) or have them die or something idk
2. Get children vaccinated.
Gorillas At Atlanta's Zoo Have Contracted COVID, Probably From A Zoo Worker
September 14, 20216:36 PM ET
The Associated Press
Western lowland gorillas are seen in their habitat at Zoo Atlanta on Tuesday. Nearly all of the zoo's 20 gorillas have symptoms of having contracted the coronavirus from a zoo staff worker, according to zoo officials.
ATLANTA — At least 18 of the 20 gorillas at Atlanta's zoo have now tested positive for COVID-19, an outbreak that began just days before the zoo had hoped to obtain a veterinary vaccine for the primates, officials said Tuesday.
Zoo Atlanta had announced the first positive tests among the western lowland gorillas on Friday after employees noticed the gorillas had been coughing, had runny noses and showed changes in appetite. A veterinary lab at the University of Georgia returned positive tests for the respiratory illness.
Zoo Atlanta says the National Veterinary Services Laboratories in Ames, Iowa, confirms that at least four of the samples from the gorillas so far have tested positive for the delta variant of the virus.
The zoo says it is using monoclonal antibodies to treat the gorillas at risk of developing complications from the virus.
Officials say there's no evidence that the gorillas can pass the virus back to humans and visitors are too far away to be infected by gorillas.
Because the gorillas live close together in four troops, zoo officials say it's impossible to keep infected animals isolated.
Zoo officials say they believe an asymptomatic employee who cares for the gorillas passed on the virus. The employee had been fully vaccinated and was wearing protective equipment such as a mask and gloves.
"According to our guidelines for animal care staff, if they have the slightest symptoms of a cold they are to stay home," said Dr. Sam Rivera, the zoo's senior director of animal health. "It so happens that the animal care team member, the following day she developed signs that she suspected might be consistent with COVID and was tested and was positive."
Senior Director of Animal Health at Zoo Atlanta Sam Rivera said the zoo will vaccinate the gorillas with a veterinary vaccine that it had been on the waiting list for prior to the gorillas' positive tests.
Eight gorillas at the San Diego Zoo Safari Park were treated for the virus in January. One San Diego silverback received an experimental antibody regimen, and all recovered
Them not approving the vaccines for school aged children prior to school starting is an absolute failure. And now they keep flip flopping on when it will be available.
I don't disagree but I also understand being absolutely certain on the data for children. I wish they were already available because I have kids in school but also if we're talking about October and people who are otherwise pro-vaccine can be more comfortable with the safety for their children, I get it. You can't fuck that up.
It won't be October. If were truly in a pandemic, then you authorize it for emergency use. Or it's not as bad and it can afford to wait. I'm in the go ahead and authorize it and it can't wait camp
There was an article posted ITT in the last few days with a timeline that Pfizer would be submitting data to the FDA by the end of September and EUA for 5-11 should be in October with under 5 by the end of the year. That's school aged.
I hope so, but I'll believe it when it happens
Was the kid obese?
-that asshole Florida rep
i assume you have an under 12yo kid because these are some emotionally charged takes that don't remotely stand up to scrutiny