haven't listened but i continue to find it baffling how poor a job he does distilling the current world through politics and ideology while he seems to do an incredible job of doing it for history, i get that the now is influenced by his own ideology much more than the past, but it makes me second guess how good a job he does with the history distillations. it seems many historians love his stuff so i imagine the second guessing is off base, but its still there
i fucking hated common sense, but without going back and checking I believe the last one he did he dropped the both sides equally bad shit for the most part. Think it was after Jan 6.
That episode was the first one I had ever listened to and it pissed me off so much I won't bother listening to another.
Anti imperialism is one of the few good stances that libertarians have. I figured this would be a slam dunk for him. Half way through he started arguing against himself and saying there had to be a better way to withdrawl, bring in more troops ect. Then he caught himself and realized what he was doing. It was pretty hilarious
lol if you think that is bad, don’t listen to his other ones. To answer Lyrtch about his historical analysis vs modern analysis, I think he’s just a guy who has to be absolutely sure, which doesn’t lend itself to good takes, and honestly he’s just a voracious reader and aggregator of other people’s academic work.
I listened to it. It wasn't as infuriating as the last one. At the very least, there was some good historical context provided and he had a fairly measured response to what was happening. I didn't necessarily disagree with what I took away as his primary take. This whole thing was necessary, Biden didn't execute very well, but how the hell could we have expected any different.
Why would anyone expect a libertarian history nerd would do anything but both sides the current political climate. He doesn’t identify with any party because they both trample on his 4th amendment rights. In his history podcasts he does a good job aggregating information and placing the listener into the environment. The difference is the listener doesn’t have an emotional attachment to the time period. We don’t have the context get outraged when he gives potential justifications for Ludendorffs actions in World War I.
this is exactly why i question his ability to actually do the latter from a functional standpoint but I don't know enough about history to validate it or invalidate it, historians spend a looootttttt of time distilling behaviors with ideological framework, libertarians tend to over focus on the latter and it's why they end up sounding like morons about almost everything see, austrian school of economics and its descendants, prioritizing rhetorical cogency over empirical soundness
They do spend a lot of time on trying to distill behaviors but they are still informed by their current biases. He never claims to be a historian just a fan. When he starts riffing and going off the sources typically he is trying to put the listener in the shoes of the character. He isn’t making a value judgment on the actors. He lets the historians do that and typically will prevent multiple view points for controversial topics. You can separate common sense and hardcore history. His history podcast can be entertaining and informative without shaping your value system.
oh i try to separate them completely and once hardcore history took off he seemed to understand there was some "brand risk" with maintaining his common sense pods or just his general editorializing on twitter and lots of historians respect him even if they think he mostly does pop history which makes me less skeptical, but i'm going to be more skeptical of his stances on things due to a kind of irrational belief system he carries around. i'll still listen to his history pods, just like i'll keep listening to Duncans.
In other news in regards to this thread. Finished behind Tucker and Levin but they shouldn’t count because no one is really buying those books.
Firing through the Spanish American revolution season and it might rival the French rev, which was my favorite.
The name “Spanish-American War” is such a misleading title. The mere existence of the Spanish Empire makes and it’s subjects fighting for their independence isn’t about America so why bother trying to understand it right?!
Is it about the Boer Wars? Or Cecil Rhodes? What was it like growing up in Apartheid South Africa as a person of means? Or you know what sucks, when I get a billion dollar grant from the government and they start meddling with my process?
I’m ready for a time when people didn’t care about Elon’s take on everything. Which is probably analogous to being ready for trump’s show to be off NBC Thursday’s in 2007.
Hard hitting questions I have for Elon Musk? How many children do you have? What color are their eyes?
Personally I would love to hear the guy who is the living image of the worst traits of silicon valley be interviewed by a "both sides equally bad" host Hopefully there is enough ass kissing to go around
I listened to most of it. Thankfully it's a purely historical discussion about the engineering of WW2 fighter planes and tanks. Normally I'd find it pretty interesting, but since it's Elon, you have to take his historiography with a heaping grains of salt
There was a 3rd person on the podcast who spoke pretty infrequently. I didnt catch his name Maybe it was him?
It says the other guy is Bill Riley also from spacex. It was in the references of the podcast I saw 2 of Tooze’s books referenced whom I love
Doesnt really fit itt but since this is a the defacto history thread - Reading a book about the Middle Ages. During The Crusades a lot of these European armies were coming back home after getting their asses kicked. They brought back stories of this other army from the east defeating the Islamic caliphates. It turned into this mythical army led by descendants of King David. Rumors of it spread all throughout Europe Turns out it was The Mongols, who razed Baghdad to the ground. When they encountered the Crusading armies looking for them, they took the leaders, wrapped them up in rugs and trampled them to death w horses in front of their soldiers Imagine thinking you were gonna find King David's army only for that to happen
Got the full HH compilation and started from the beginning. Really interesting to hear Dan riff on a plague hitting the world in 2006.
Great day for half of my team and my boss to be out of office, I'm going to spend all morning listening to this lol.
I feel the same, but only a bit, it IS a podcast, it may be more representative to just share horrific slavery stories, but I wouldn’t be interested in listening to it.
Just listened to the final episode of revolutions. Kind of bummed he never got to all the ones he wanted to do. Pretty cool how his study of these events changed and formed his current political perspective. His next podcast sounds awesome. Can’t wait for it to get started
Probably a very stupid question but where can I find his older podcasts? Like Ghosts of the Ostfront? In the podcast app, when I search Dan Carlin, I am only seeing a few spotty episodes here and there but almost none of his older stuff like Wrath of the Khans etc. I assume you have to pay for it but just need to know where to look. Do I have to download it from his website or something? Thanks in advance for any help because I'd enjoy getting back into listening to Dan.
Google and there's usually a few random links on the first page of results where you can download for free
I’m almost done too and gonna be sad. Might go back to old ones as well. Bummed I wasn’t listening in real time because he just spoke at a bookstore five minutes from me and I missed it since I was behind.
I feel like an idiot because I’ve listened to almost every HH and CS, but I have no idea what revolutions is or where to find it
I thought at one point you could get his entire library for like $20. I typically don't like paying for podcasts but that's easily worth it
The Russian Revolution one was good but at some point there's too much info for a podcast imo. I think he didn't get to 1917 until like episode 50
It took him 3 years to do it. I retained very little info. Too hard to do it 30-40 min at a time, once a week.