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  1. RonBurgundy

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    You could literally just buy stick and greaves and the game was pretty much over, but no one complained because even when supports are OP they rarely feel OP.
     
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  2. RonBurgundy

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    Just like a year ago CM had magic resist with her mana regen aura and that shit was so OP it was nerfed in a month.
     
  3. skiedfrillet

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    i miss old clinkz and how unstoppable i was w/ him
     
  4. BrickTamland

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    Clinkz is the ultimate “fuck everyone else I’m going to play my own game and win this on my own” hero.

    Had a guy last pick him and jungle’d last night when we already had: treant, jugg, drow (offlane), and invoker.

    Nothing more classic than a solo, offlane drow.
     
    #16604 BrickTamland, Dec 15, 2020
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  5. RonBurgundy

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    When I play ranked, I queue all 5 roles. The first time I’ve gotten safelane in literally months, my 5 first picked WK and level 1 jungled, so I had to solo carry (Jugg) vs bat and Lina.
     
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  6. BrickTamland

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    You shouldn’t have gotten a single last hit, ever.
     
  7. RonBurgundy

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    I mean, in trash tier your opponents are also trash tho.

    I think I got boots at like 8 minutes that game
     
  8. Skiddly

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    Directly after naked bfury I assume.
     
  9. RonBurgundy

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    As is tradition
     
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  10. BrickTamland

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    Seems like the play in turbo is to forgo farming items, but definitely get one or two bracer/null talisman/agi thing just to be able to lane and fight.
     
  11. BrickTamland

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    Sniper as a magic build is absolutely miserable. I can’t think of a less fun play style, except maybe deso CM.
     
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  12. miles

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    Always wanted DNM to get a shot with a good team ever since his old teammates literally got caught trying to 322 but he refused and won the game anyway

     
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  13. Handcuffed

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    patch notes aren't yet out but lots of it has leaked as the dota website was updated

    new types of blinks that give buffs. lots of heroes got new spells (tbd if aghs spell or not). new squirrel hero that seems similar to windranger.
     
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  14. Handcuffed

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    this seems like it's going to be Dota 8.0 with all of the new items and hero tweaks
     
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  15. RonBurgundy

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    Looks like an AGI support. Sunsfan was right
     
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  17. BrickTamland

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    Ogre nerf :(

    Prob necessary.
     
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  18. miles

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    Elder titan- hoodwink looks like stage 4 cancer
     
  19. Handcuffed

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    brewmaster aghs is ridiculous

    people who can play that hero will dominate with it
     
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    just tuned into purge's stream
     
  21. BrickTamland

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    Big Undying nerf.
     
  22. miles

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    Aghanim's Shard Ability

    Normal Punch

    :ded:
     
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  23. BrickTamland

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    Your skull’s roundness offends me :crossedarms:
     
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  24. RonBurgundy

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    DK aghanims shard seems really good! DK buffs!! Hero is playable again!
     
  25. miles

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    Wonder if we see Jakiro mid enter the meta now. Doesn’t scale as badly now with the aghs shard
     
  26. RonBurgundy

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    Oracle aghs gives old omniknight Repel!!!!
     
  27. broXcore

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    bane shard ability is p gross
     
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  28. RonBurgundy

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    seems really good, can build meteor hammer and chain stun too
     
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  29. miles

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  30. Handcuffed

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    miles i thought you were dead
     
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  31. Handcuffed

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    here are some thoughts on the heroes:

    - beastmaster's shard is awesome. hawks as controllable units means you can more easily gank/defend from ganks as you have moving wards. and the bird attack is a cheap linkins break for anyone defending against roar.
    - all of the buffs to jugg's blade fury makes me think the magic build is going to be more than a meme.
    - bane will be a lane dominator imo. the healing reductions (+ range) on enfeeble is silly. salves and tangos will be ineffective.
    - bat seems like a better 4 than a 2/3 now
    - i don't see how you can ever push into kunkka with cleave, tidal wave, and ghost ship. he can 1v5 a highground push.
    - lesh's aghs seems unreal. his shard is good for longer teamfights/rosh.
    - ground targeted laguna blade is hilarious
    - mars' shard seems like a must-buy. easy multi-kills during ults.
    - dusa with her shard will become even more unkillable. she'll always have mana and her AOE damge just increased.
    - naga aghs seems broken af. rooting bkb units is silly.
    - np shard is hilarious and seems pretty broken. you need phase boots to get out even with bfury/quelling.
    - necro shard seems like a must-buy
    - removing qop lvl 25 fear is bad. shard silence seems amazing.
    - i like all of the ally-targeting abilities (rubick, bat, sd)
    - sky's shard is a must-buy. it's even better than his aghs.
    - surprised slardar wasn't nerfed more.
    - think there'll be some cheap shit with LD shard... attack speed aura means you're able to push even faster
    - loving all of the break methods added to the game
    - putting the dispel talent into the shard for sven is bullshit. 1400 gold is nothing to that hero.
    - TA shard is broken. you can be across the map and Silence people your team is ganking.
    - troll aghs seems really good. who needs omni when you can dispel yourself?
    - visage's aghs seems incredible.
    - excited to see fountain-to-fountain powershots
     
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  32. RonBurgundy

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    Visage aghs sounds OP in principle
     
  33. Handcuffed

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    overwhelming blink = must-have for centaur
    eternal shroud - first item for visage

    octarine w/ no spell lifesteal is strange
    same with satanic and status resistance
    armor aura back to vlads means its really good again imo
    euls mana regen reduction sucks
    all of the new neutrals seem really strong though I'm glad repair kit was removed
     
  34. miles

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    I haven’t played in a long time, but I still watch a lot.

    Naga being able to root spell immune targets was how it used to be for a long time. It was kind of hilarious in team fights sometimes. Enemy carry bkb’s in a bad spot and you could song, root, and kill him while the rest of the team was helplessly frozen lol
     
  35. miles

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    Re: handcuffed’s lots of added break spells point-

    big pseudo nerf to brainless right click heroes like PA, PL, ursa, spec, wk :like:
     
  36. RonBurgundy

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    Per bug thread:
    fucking hilarious if intentional
     
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  37. Handcuffed

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    this is hilarious
     
  38. RonBurgundy

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    +2% win rate

    4th highest win rate average all brackets. Ogre spammers rejoice!

    CM got no buffs so is almost under 50% win rate for the first time in nearly forever.

    looks like Ogre, Nyx, Warlock and AA are only supports that got major buffs.

    Also wonder if the WK +4% win rate is real or just because the hero is so easy to play that with all the crazy changes his win rate goes up.
     
    #16638 RonBurgundy, Dec 18, 2020
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  39. RonBurgundy

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    Jakiro and WD win rates fell off a cliff. Weird
     
  40. Handcuffed

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    na streams have been fun to watch because everyone is pubbing

    ppd is playing lich with aghs shard rn and solo-killed bulba with chain frost, the ice spire thing, and a gaze. doesn't do that much in a team fight but you can kill cores with it.
     
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  41. BrickTamland

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    Ogre, was indeed, not nerfed.
     
  42. BrickTamland

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  43. Handcuffed

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    https://www.dotabuff.com/matches/5749885053

    i know it's pretty dumb to complain about turbo matches but look at this horseshit

    jugg invis
    np invis
    shaman invis
    mirana ult

    they literally never fought us. 19-10 kill score in a 35 min turbo game. every one of them (and obviously especially the NP) ratted. in turbo. for 35 minutes. and obviously I'm playing with idiots so only me and lion bought BoTs and knew what to try and do

    i think this is the most frustrated i've ever been in a game. turbo is already barely dota but this rat shit was so pathetic.
     
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  44. BrickTamland

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  45. RonBurgundy

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    [​IMG]
     
  46. BrickTamland

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    Teammate first picks CM, so I take Undying.

    I notice CM doesn't buy a ward, scroll over CM in the fountain: five clarities and a salve.

    >"CM, are you jungling?"
    >no answer
    >proceeds to jungle, first item meteor hammer
    >I take my offlane items to safelane
    >get dumpstered with one-less hero in lane
    >loss

    https://www.dotabuff.com/matches/5749742026
     
  47. skiedfrillet

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    casual 250 gpm jungle cm

    never change dota

    edit: lol going against slark, spectre, and zeus

    i'd have ragequit in the first 2min
     
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  48. RonBurgundy

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    We did
     
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  49. RonBurgundy

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    Today was a good day
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    tomorrow gonna hurt
     
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  50. Bricktop the white

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    I've lost basically all my ranked placements and im down in archon now.



    I'm washed
     
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