DotA 2: -APEM pros only go fast!

Game is mad fun. I like it a lot better than LoL, but that's probably b/c I'm more familiar with the characters since I played a ton of the original dota.

My friend with like 30 invites hooked me up too.

 

Not sure what this is but IanBoyd

 

Solid first post, I wouldn't recommend starting Dota unless you can try to get through the initial "WTF am I doing phase why am I dying so much".

 

Bad first post. He didn't even put his steam tag in it. Anyways I have 4 keys so just add me if you want one. steam account: Hvit_Djevel

 

Not enough league of legends hate in the op IMO.

 

A mentally retarded 4 year old is smarter than some of the game mechanics in LoL

 

People's favorite hero? Spell? Most successful hero?

 

Also, www.dotabuff.com is fun to use to look at your stats.

 

This should be in the OP imo. This is the type of hate I'm talking about.

 

I mean tall grass, what is this pokemon.

 

Never played LoL, what are some of these mechanics? I've heard LoL people say denying is a stupid mechanic so I guess it is just a different perspective.

 

It's just simplified DoTA really.

 

didn't i play dota2 with you faggots a few months ago or some shit?

 

I know that, I was just curious about specific examples. I know there is no denying, players have 5 (?) abilities, everyone has a TP scroll ability instead of item, mana costs are lower. I know there are runes or something too to provide passive bonuses. Also all heroes not being available for free.

 

I do have invites for when bricktop runs out.

 

invite me

steamid is either "ulike" or "gloun"

 

Probably best with Windrunner off lane. Pretty good support venomancer as well. I rarely play carries or semis

 

You'll have to wait until after work, homeboy. My steam name is BillyQuizboy

 

Favorite(s):
Drow - I've always played her a good amount, even back when her ult gave you a random chance to insta-kill a creep
Rubick - Really fun to chain spell steal the other teams big moves
Veno - pretty damn solid support that is relevant throughout most of the game. great tower pushing power at lvl 7 with wards
Crystal Maiden - Wish she ran a bit faster, otherwise really good hero.

Spell:
Glimpse - nothing makes me laugh more than sending a person who TP's to a tower back to their base. Wasting their time and gold

Most successful:
Leshrac - I think I am like 20-2 with that hooved bastard.

 

There are bushes that you won't have vision of a person no matter how close you are unless you are in the bush or have a ward in it. So in bot lane, where the carry goes, if you have a shitty support you can easily get zoned and not be able to farm.

If a person get killed several times in a row without getting a kill they progressively become worth less gold.

You have the Obama welfare champions that don't require mana to use skills.

They recently upped everyone's movement by 25 and lowered what boots gave you to 25. This gives a huge advantage to people that had high ms in the first place imo. Now a person that use to have 325 has 350 and can go without boots and have the same ms as someone that use to be at 300 with boot.

Literally takes around 300-400 games before you get to lvl 30 and are able to get full runes.

Champions that have dashes can use them to jump through terrain.

The jungle has way to many bottleneck points.

The fact that they have a separate mode for ranked really makes the whole getting to level 30 thing useless. If you don't want to play for a rating you should be in custom games. You just spent 300 games to be able to get to be able to play ranked and half the people playing ranked still have no clue how to play a fucking game.

**TL:DR version: Go fuck yourself San Diego

 

I thought I already gave you one.

 

Carry all day every day

 

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IRsPheErBj8

 

4 abilities with 2 summoner spells, the heroes not all being available is so overrated. There at least more than 10 heroes that are played competitively that are 1350 ip or less which is like 5 or 6 wins at most to get. I haven't played much DOTA2 so I can't really talk specifically.

 

Yeah if you get an early lead you can easily carry with veno but that doesn't always happen. I know I used to (years ago in dota1) play veno and vs as carries because they are agi. I also remember filling my inventory with null talismans so I could spam stun...

 

i haven't been on steam in months

 

Going to break this down a little bit.
1) Sounds like a mechanic that requires more skill/awareness.
2) Snowbally game was always complained about so riot did something to counter it that doesn't take away the advantage of winning.
3) All of those champions have bad scaling unless they are snowballing
4) Everyone was upped by 25 so it doesn't hurt anyone at all just changes how the game is played early (difference between 325 and 300 is the same as 350 and 325)
5)True
6)The problem is? They all have a trade off somewhere else
7)Again don't see the problem. Learn the map
8) See number 5, but look at your 5th mechanic as well and now you know why there's separate queues.

 

4)So say a jungle champ that use to have 325 now has 350 while an adc will only have 350 after getting boots.

You are saying there is no advantage to that jungle champ now.

They lowered the actual necessity of boots which is dumb. They lowered the value of early mobility.

2) 8) If you combine these two then you have less faggots complaining about snowballing because they are in a shit tier bracket.

Also I have to wait 400 games before I can play with more idiots great.

 

Why would there be an advantage for that jungler?

 

Can't edit or else I would, but there is a normal game ELO it's not just random.

 

behold bean raging against the end of the LoL era and the dawn of the DotA 2 era

 

There's no rage at all. I'm just further elaborating upon points that were either wrong or not explained clearly. If that's rage, I guess I'm a Michigan fan now.

 

I expect LoL to still be popular but probably with the new-to-the-genre crowd or people who want a game that is lesser consequences for being bad.

That being said, I already play with enough ragers who don't realize their mistakes. I am not looking forward to dealing with more of that.

 

Also steam is bigmac5706, user name EMAW. Add me. Usually late at night once gf goes to bed. No mic either.

 

I know this feel

omg what a peasant

 

Last time I used a mic for gaming was arena in burning crusade. It is probably something I should invest in though.

 

it helps a shitload. No longer have to type anything, and when one of your teammates gets ganked and gives up first blood you can just blame it on him having his volume off because you called it instead of typing it in. Fantastic.

 

I'm a big fan of the chat wheel and pings. Would likely still use that over voice to call missing.

 

If you don't see the advantage that a lower ms difference between having boots and not having boots gives to a high ms hero early game than you might need to rethink going to college.

 

ooh, glad I looked. Better than I thought. 70% win rate with Viper

 

wut. Explain what you mean please. How is the difference between 355 (highest base move speed in the game IIRC) and 325 (lowest base) any different then 330 and 300? Unless of course you buy boots on your laners still. Then I could see your gripe. I haven't bought boots for my lanes since the patch, but if you are buying boots, then you're laning wrong. Just because you fail to adapt to a change in the game doesn't make the change wrong.

Anyway any easy to play(mechanically) champs in DotA, so I can pick up the overall mechanics easier?

 

38% with Viper haha. 84% with leshrac, 78% rubick.

 

What kind of character do you prefer?

It's really all preference and most characters are pretty straightforward.

Ursa is pretty OP right now and combos its abilities well. Do you like ranged Agi/Int or Str characters?

 

OP right now? Why just right now? He hasn't been touched in quite a while. He always is strong if you don't stop his jungle farm and cannot kite him.

Generally I prefer ranged agi/int. Right clicking feels a bit boring to me, I like landing a skillshot and having a bit of a range buffer. Also people don't support so I'll default into that a lot if I don't random.

 

we are opposites. I am probably the world's worst Leshrac

 

Haven't played him much since they added that delay to edict, but this is how I went: 1 point in stun, max edict then lightning. Skill ult at 10/11. Start putting putting points in stats after so you can be tanky and stay in fights to spam damage. Go middle, farm up a bloodstone ASAP; usually start with mana boots then pers then disassemble boots for bloodstone. Try to start pushing towers around level 7-10. If you're teammates haven't fucked up by then you should be pretty strong and nuking the shit out of people. The biggest thing is learning the timing on split earth.

Of course none of this works if you have teammates that insist taking mid and putting you to some support role. Lesh is similar to other heroes like Shadow shaman, necro and death prophet where the increased exp and farm of mid helps you gain an early lead in the tower game.

 

Oh my brain knows how to play the dude. It's my fingers that are the problem. Split earth is such a bitch to land without a preceding stun. Points usually go into lightning instead of edict early because I'll end up playing hard lane with him due to 3 people fighting over safe lane. He is such a shit hero for hard lane unless in an offensive trilane.