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Discussion in 'The Mainboard' started by GoodForAnother, Jul 6, 2015.
That dude wouldn’t be visiting his grandkids if it were my family
Sounds great in theory. In practice, though, the MIL pays the price when everyone leaves. Whatever anger you stir in FIL from passive-agressive behavior will 100% be displaced onto his wife.
That's fuckin awful..... To state the obvious
Guys who insult and degrade their wives/fiancées/girlfriends in front of others hate, hate, HATE to have the same done back to them. They're all the same. Their fragile egos know little else to do in response but to take their anger out on those who can't and won't fight back.
Knowing the type of person I am, yeah, I'm going to get that FIL's goat by being passive-aggressive. No chance I'm not going to help myself. You're not going scrub me of my stripes. But I'm going to target him in private. I certainly won't target him in front of his wife.
edit: Reading up the thread a little.
Oh, I bet he stewed over what your 4-year-old said for a very long time.
I’ve got the afternoon off. I mowed my yard yesterday. Looks great and I know my FIL is feeling the pressure to get his mowed now as he can’t be one upped. Thinking about establishing dominance and mowing his this afternoon. I could play it off as a good deed but I’m sure it would bother him a little.
Don't mow his yard.
My dad's dad told me he loved me before he told my dad he loved him. My dad said he said he loved me at hospital when I was born and never said it to my dad until in the hospital when my grandpa was dying. About 3 months apart.
He describes my grandad as a hard old school man. However, I couldn't have asked for a better dad. So I get where your wife is coming from.
You should do this.
Did you have any experience with this? I know there is a lot of negatives out there about timeshares. I was very thorough in my questions before we signed up.
My parents had/have one, Prepare to be stuck with it forever.
This is a loaded question and others may have more personal experience, but I have observational experience because my parents have a timeshare. It's possible the "industry" has changed to be more attracive to younger people, but my suspicion is that they don't make money with these things because they're an incredible value that allows you to "beat the system." Instead, the whole premise is to get you committed and make it difficult for you to leave. So lots of people come to resent their timeshares. Probably one reason why the program doesn't contain the word "timeshare."
First concern is that timeshares are not very marketable. So selling them is not generally easy, especially if you are seeking value out of the transaction.
They lack flexibility. Not familiar with this program specifically, but by their nature you are limited to their network of resorts. That's potentially undesirable, obviously, if you wanted to visit somewhere they don't have a presence. But it's also an issue if, over time, they don't maintain locations that you may like. You get stuck within this structure and you've forfeited your freedom to vacation where you want and when. Even when flexibility in dates/locations is available, there is usually some sort of penalty or fee involved.
You are committed to a certain type of vacation experience for a certain period of time if you want to "get your money's worth." Again, maybe you feel that is a non-issue, but I personally would not want to feel "obligated" to go on a certain trip or to a certain place at a certain time of year simply because I made a financial commitment to do so X years ago.
There is a reason they try to get you hooked in these presentations: you're on vacation anyway, your mood is good and you're telling yourself you need to start taking more vacations anyway. They get you to make a financial decision that you probably didn't plan for before you can process and consider the pros and cons. And I'm not trying to rain on your parade and make you feel bad, I just think they are designed to take advantage of people, and most ultimately don't reap the value that they expected when they signed up. Perhaps you are part of the percentage of people who would be able to work the system right to make it worth your while. But there are a lot of other travel loyalty/reward programs (not to mention credit cards) that offer a better value and much more flexibility for much less of commitment.
I'm not raining on what you said at all. All valid points. I have no experience with timeshares personally.
However, NDfanPSUgrad has been staying at a condo with wood paneling walls, shag carpet, and huge rodent size roaches because his FIL is stuck in the 70s and that's what he has always done.
Edit add on: NDfanPSUgrad you may have been sold on the fact your current vacation situation is worse than all. You have other options. Don't get caught in the moment.
Appropriately enough, my father in law has a time share. He regrets it to the point he is embarrassed to even talk about it. And I would have pegged him as the type that might actually find a timeshare valuable.
Back out if you can.
All of these are bad....but, the O'Douls thing is weird AF.
I can see how it would have value to NDfanPSUgrad, because his family takes the exact same vacation every year and timeshares are perfect for people who do the same thing every year. But once the In-laws pass on, I doubt the vacation continues. He seems to hate everything about it.
My family has a Disney timeshare and a Mariott one. and so far it has paid off and the DCL one has actually tripled in value, but that's very rare. If you are going to buy a timeshare, IMO, it's best to do it in an area where you could easily sell/rent it out. IMO, Myrtle Beach doesn't fit that bill.
And if we are being honest, there really isn't much real value in owning a timeshare in myrtle beach. It's not a premium destination. So once the yearly trip to Myrtle Beach ends, then what? Good luck getting access to places other then Myrtle Beach through Hilton.
Our Mariott Timeshare was bought with the intention of using it for "trades" to use around the world and it hasn't worked out that way at all. It's very hard to get weeks in locations other than our "home" hotel in Orlando. I am going to assume that it will be the same thing for Hilton. The mid-tier timeshares just don't have much real value outside of using it for the original purpose.
rulethirty would have the best advice.
I know the Hyatt Residence Club allows you transfer your point balance into actual Hyatt Points, which goes a lot further than other hotel brands. Not sure if that is the case for Marriott or Hilton.
He will be able to easily sell it/rent it out in Myrtle Beach.
Your father in law sounds like my mom.
Sorry to side track the thread. Is there a thread to move these to
just wanted to say if anyone wants to cut my grass, feel free
Not to derail the thread but thanks for all the timeshare comments. The Hilton Grand Vacation club we bought in to gets club points. Our level was 5000 points annually. There is no set home week but there is a home site which ours is in Myrtle. Points don’t have to be used there ever. 5000 points gets a 2 BR condo in their Gold Season for reference which is not peak season. Points can be borrowed ahead or carried into next year and can be converted to traditional Hilton Honors points at 25:1. There are about 100+ Hilton Grand resorts but they do partner with RCI and there is a conversion as well.
My thinking is eventually soon my SIL will have kids and we will outgrow that Myrtle Beach spot and probably get our own. Also, we do want to vacation other places and this is a way for us to move the points around. Those 5000 points could get us 2 weeks in peak season in a studio in Hawaii which is what we are planning to use soon.
They also threw 20k extra points at us.
Here is the problem. Good luck ever getting that Hawaii stay.everyone and their mother will be requesting Hawaii from their home resort. They tell you how easy it is to book elsewhere, but it’s never that easy. Like I was saying. My family owns a Marriott timeshare. In 20ish years, we’ve been able to use it somewhere other than our home resort about 5x and never somewhere as awesome as Hawaii. We put a ton of requests in each year hoping, but it rarely comes through.
You bought a time share in Myrtle Beach.
You are literally becoming your Father in Law.
Women always marry their father.
As a South Carolina man put one straight between my eyes before any money of mine goes to a myrtle beach time share. Holy. Shit.
Tilly dude just bought a myrtle time share
Jeez that’s a brutal decision. Last three times I had to visit Myrtle on business we drove to Charleston for the night.
Haven't read the thread. Hope he and his family have fun when they're down there. Feel free to pm me or H/T and I think a few others on advice for what to do.
Putting money in a timeshare is dumb as fuck though. Legit, you're going to regret the fuck out of that shit show.
Writing the rescission letter this morning. Haha. Thanks guys.
You can fuck your FIL another way
NDfanPSUgrad there are few times in life that CF3234 is ever right, but this is one of them.
Sadly we have now lost the hilarious moment when the kid that dates NDfanPSU’s daughter found this thread and started ripping into his GF’s Dad about a Myrtle beach timeshare
My grandparents had a condo timeshare at a ski resort basically so they could trade for the beach. I think it worked pretty well pre-internet, but once people could shop around more, it was a lot less valuable. I tried to trade it for my honeymoon (my grandmother gave that as part of her wedding gift), but no dice. Just a mess. Glad you got out of that.
Call your wife a useless fucking albatross in front of him and see what happens.
The dogs stayed with him and my MIL for two weeks while we were on vacation and our pit mix ate his new copy of trains magazine before he could read it. She’s a very good girl
This post should close the thread. Perfect bookend 4 years later.
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I’m at the Hilton on the big island right now. Place is cool, but you made the right call. I’d be pretty pissed if I waited for years to get this place and then this was the result. The “beach” is a little man made lake with a tiny channel that connects to the ocean to filter the water. Only been 24 hours, but meh.
You made the right call to cancel.
It has become my daily objective to sidetrack my In Laws family group text message with ill timed humor and complete lack of self awareness.
Oh god. Is that a thing that happens when you get married?
I got added to one a couple years ago, immediately muted it and never participated. Now they use another thread where I am not involved. Thank god.
My MIL has a group text to me, bae & BIL where she will occasionally give us family updates and frequently sends us Sonic & other fast food coupons. I never respond
We have a family group text, in laws, wife, sister in laws. It’s not the best when I’m in a meeting and my phone is going crazy with texts.
Yeah ours is to coordinate group dinners, illnesses, and other things if that nature. It came be a little much so I try to insert inappropriate gifs that have nothing to do with the seriousness of choosing between the Mexican or burger places in town.
My dad uses our family group text as an opportunity to find news gifs he likes in the gif keyboard
Anytime the group message gets going he starts spamming new gifs until people stop responding
My dad discovered Bitmoji.. hilarious