Heavy Music thread

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  1. TC

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    Drums were doing too much over the riffage tbh
     
  2. Heavy Mental

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    can i get a riff guy's unvarnished opinion of the riff that starts at 2:45 here?

    hopefully you still have a face after listening

     
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  3. TC

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    Listening from beginning -- they definitely come out swinging. This shit is "tight" in a precision way
     
  4. TC

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    Heavy Mental dude's pick hand is just insane. That's my favorite part of the riff; the machine gun "djent djent." (Just learned that word.) It also brings a nice melody to a track that's pretty sludgy before. And damn it builds from there. This actually gets sort of ear pleasing towards the end
     
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  5. TC

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    Now I'm watching a guitar play through video of that song. Some of the comments:

    "my wrists hurt just by watching this goddamn"

    "How the fuck do you guys not have carpal tunnel"

    :laugh:
     
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  6. TC

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    Do these black metal bands play sober? Don't see any way you could play with that precision intoxicated. Also think you have to be pretty fully hydrated not to cramp. Do they treat it like athletics?
     
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  7. shaolin5

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    That's absolutely awesome. Almost not human
     
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  8. portlandspartan

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    They get their power directly from Satan or like, the forest
     
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  9. shaolin5

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    Drums are definitely high in the mix
     
  10. Heavy Mental

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    here’s a soundboard quality live recording / video of a Wiegedood set.

    The Riff starts at 3:05ish

     
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  11. Heavy Mental

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    I’ve listened to metal for at least 2 decades and I can say with high confidence that it might be my favorite riff across the entire genre.
     
  12. Heavy Mental

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    lol at these comments

    TC thanks for indulging me. I have very little technical music knowledge, so reading a breakdown like this is cool.
     
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  13. portlandspartan

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    TC is right, it’s all picking hand. Honestly, it’s not crazy fast or technical IMO. If you told me he was downstroking the entire thing yeah that would be nuts but he’s tremolo picking it. Pretty standard for black metal.

    Dope riff tho
     
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  15. burnttatertot

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    The vocals are why they'd never end up in a top 25 for me.
     
  16. burnttatertot

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    with little thought I can certainly tell you the most listened to

    1. Grave
    2. Dismember
    3. Desultory
     
  17. Butthead

    Butthead narmas, narmas

     
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  18. Heavy Mental

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    this is just…wow

    I’m not sure anything will top this album for me this year. It’s basically perfect.

    Vital Spirit - Still as the Night, Cold as the Wind
     
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  19. glimmer

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    curious, where did carcass peak in their career for you? ditto for morbid angel

    symphonies is my fav carcass, love when they still have a grindier sound. domination is probably my favorite angel. i like their more experimental d -> g output before they went dubstep
     
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  20. Heavy Mental

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    Heartwork for me.

    not qualified to opine on Morbid Angel.
     
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  21. Heavy Mental

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    so the recent Morbid Angel mentions got me thinking that everyone probably has a handful of bands that appear universally beloved but just don't do it for you.

    Morbid Angel is definitely one for me.

    Eyehategod, Motorhead, Celtic Frost are a few others that come to mind. gave a solid effort, but they just didn't 'click' for me.

    you guys have any bands like that?
     
  22. shaolin5

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    My favorite Carcass album will always be Necroticism. Favorite Morbid Angel is either Altars or Blessed are the Sick.
    Edit: 2nd favorite Carcass album is Symphonies
     
  23. shaolin5

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    Another thing that I feel makes a difference is I was a teenager (barrely) when Altars and Blessed came out. Bands you fall in love with as a youngster you tend to stick with longer. (At least it's true for me).
    SO bands like Entombed, Carcass, Morbid Angel and even Anathema I have stuck with even though the quality of output has dropped. Obituary is another one for me.
     
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  24. shaolin5

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    Death is the band that sticks out for me.
    Also Tool, and this new band Wilderun I just don't get. Maybe it's over my head idk.
    Oh and Opeth. Just never got into it and Akerfeldt is a pretentious douche (or so I've heard)
     
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  25. Heavy Mental

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    feel same way about Wilderun
     
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  26. Butthead

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    So prog metal, in other words
     
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  27. RegimentML

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    For death metal, Obituary and Deicide are both in the they’re fine but I’m not a huge fan category for me. Just never clicked. Maybe they will some day.

    Dream Theater is a big one. Mostly because of James LaBrie
     
  28. burnttatertot

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    I have to question how much effort was put into Eyehategod's craft.
     
  29. Heavy Mental

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    it’s just…bad?

    I’ve even seen them live, which usually endears me to a band, but even after that i don’t get it.
     
  30. Heavy Mental

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  31. glimmer

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    got to smoke weed with the guys in eyehategod before we opened for them. was a fun show.
     
  32. glimmer

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  33. burnttatertot

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    There's nothing to get, the weirdos that worship this band are the same ones that think Sleep 'Jerusalem' is a masterpiece.
     
  34. glimmer

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    with all this ehg slander, i can tell this isn’t the crust punk thread
     
  35. glimmer

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    certified weirdo here. also, no one thinks jerusalem is the masterpiece. that’s dopesmoker in its full, 63 minute song glory
     
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  36. glimmer

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    jerusalem is what you get when the label decides making the record a single song over an hour long is a bad idea (they were wrong)
     
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  37. Butthead

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    What about marijuanaut
     
  38. burnttatertot

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    potato patoto
     
  39. burnttatertot

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    Post it... unless it's some Electric Wizard nonsense.
     
  40. Butthead

    Butthead narmas, narmas

     
  41. Heavy Mental

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    for the record:

    i like (most) crust I’ve heard, especially the bm influenced kind, see: Martydod

    i love Dopesmoker and Dopethrone

    But I don’t like EHG. Honestly I don’t see the relationship between those things and the music of EHG.
     
  42. burnttatertot

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    None of you could have saved me? I'm over in the MMA thread posting horrible metal takes unknowingly. Christ.


    Morbid Angel peaked with Covenant. Domination was their downfall.

    Everyone knows Necro, Heartwork, Swansong is the threepeat of all threepeats.
     
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  43. burnttatertot

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    It's a fanbase thing, you're the first I've come across that likes one but not the other. Granted this study I've conducted over the last 20 years totals around a dozen people.
     
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  44. burnttatertot

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    Improvement over Dopesmoker.
     
  45. shaolin5

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    No, just those bands.
     
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  46. shaolin5

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    I honestly liked EHG and listen to Take as Needed for Pain and In the Name of Suffering pretty regularly. Everything after that is just boring (to me)
     
  47. roggins

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    Converge. Can’t stand them but people love them. I don’t get it.
     
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  48. Heavy Mental

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    it’s an acquired taste, but they are so unique. nothing else like them in heavy music.

    My advice would be to start with The Dusk In Us and work backwards.

    Axe To Fall is my favorite album,
     
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  49. Heavy Mental

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    I’ll admit they aren’t for everyone. I understand why people don’t like them.
     
  50. shaolin5

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    Flip the script: Name 3 bands you love that others don't get (besides pretty much all of metal lol)

    1. Brujeria (Matando Gueros is one of my all-time faves)
    2. Mayhem (DMDS and Grand Declaration of War)
    3. Godflesh (Streetcleaner)
     
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