HoF [REDACTED] v2.0: “just one of those days”

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  1. ashy larry

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  2. SummerOfGeorge

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    It's not 1963 anymore. The best teams in the sport don't have defensive specialists who are black holes at the plate playing everyday.
     
  3. SummerOfGeorge

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    Also, he's not THAT good a shortstop. He's an above average defensive shortstop. He is not Andrelton Simmons.

    The idea that it's ok to be the worst hitter in baseball because you are 12th out of 34 SS in defensive WAR is just stupid.

    SS Ranks - 34 qualified that played 500 innings at SS
    19th in DRS
    12th in OAA
    13th in FRV
    8th in Defensive WAR

    Spare me the idea that we just have to play a guy who has an OPS of .600 because he's a "top 1/3 defensive SS in baseball".
     
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  4. HtownTide

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    Man. These are some deeply concerning answers from AA. Im going to try not to overreact and hope some of this is just press conference window dressing, but it sure as shit sounds like the aw shucks approach is permeating from all the way at the top of our organization and we are about to see recycled garbage in 2025
     
  5. SummerOfGeorge

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    Same - I'll wait to see how things go, but this is not the tone I was hoping to hear.
     
  6. bcuga

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    I am guessing AJ Minter probably won't be back next year. I think he could get a pretty decent deal on the free agent market assuming the health issues have been resolved.
     
  7. seanofthedead86

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    I would take it with a grain of salt. He's been notorious for not revealing too much info.
     
  8. SummerOfGeorge

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    That is definitely true and worth remembering.
     
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  9. gus_chiggins

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    A summary of everything Alex said today
     
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  10. Chipper>Jeter

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    Pay this man whatever he wants
     
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  11. SummerOfGeorge

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    His biggest point in his discussion of things, to me, is not even "hitting home runs" vs "old school". It's pointing out that new age true 3 outcome baseball is not JUST hitting home runs. It's hitting home runs AND getting on base. We had horrid at bats this year, rarely walked and did not get on base. My old ass baseball feels do not enjoy watching baseball teams walk, strikeout and hit home runs, but I do understand the logic behind it. But it only works if you do the WALKING part, too.

    When you strip that part out, you turn into what we saw this year. A bunch of scattershot solo home runs, tons of strikeouts and no baserunners.
     
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  12. Tobias

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    blaming injuries for “having” to hit arguably the worst player in baseball at 5th really is something
     
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  13. HtownTide

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    Yep. Well said. There is a reason people track OPS. Slugging on its own only gets you so far.
     
  14. HtownTide

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    And nevermind the fact that he was probably even worse in the 9 hole. Him hitting 5th for some short amount of time this year is a strawman excuse for the inexplicable decision to continue playing him
     
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  15. Jake Barnes

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    What’s the SS FA market going to look like?
     
  16. seanofthedead86

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    I think Willy Adams is going to be a FA
     
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  17. It'sAlwaysSunnyInAthens

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    Pretty much just Adames.
     
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  18. southlick

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  19. SummerOfGeorge

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    I have takes. Hot takes. Not quite ready, still baking in the oven, but very close.
     
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  20. SummerOfGeorge

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  21. SummerOfGeorge

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    :chrispaulnoooo:
     
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  22. SummerOfGeorge

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  23. One Two

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    Aw shucks, just one of those seasons.
     
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  24. SummerOfGeorge

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    LOL get bent Phillies
     
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  25. SummerOfGeorge

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    Hey, it doesn't matter, FLY EAGLES FLY AMIRITE

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  26. gus_chiggins

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    The NL East is going to be bananas next year
     
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  27. Tobias

    Tobias we’re on to tcu
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    i am no fan of the mets but man fuck these losers they deserve it 100%. tried to warn ya dorks

     
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  28. SummerOfGeorge

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    Poetic fuckin justice
     
  29. gus_chiggins

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  30. arsenal

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  31. ashy larry

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    today feels like the day we turn the season around
     
  32. seanofthedead86

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    I wonder if Snit said this without having a conversation with AA about it.
     
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  33. Louis Holth

    Louis Holth but we also just might be those motherfuckers
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    Love that Snitker said we were bringing everybody back lol. Get bent loser
     
  34. SummerOfGeorge

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    BUT WHAT DOES THIS MEAN FOR ORLANDO ARCIA?????????


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  35. SummerOfGeorge

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    Sean. Nailed it.
     
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  36. Louis Holth

    Louis Holth but we also just might be those motherfuckers
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    I’m hearing we’re in talks to bring Ryan Langerhans back to play LF
     
  37. SummerOfGeorge

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    If you can hit a deer, you can hit a ball.
     
  38. Where Eagles Dare

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    :laugh: Great work, Snit. Hopefully AA is looking at his comments about coaching next year with the same angle of Snit claiming no coaching changes
     
  39. seanofthedead86

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    :beerchug:
     
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  40. gus_chiggins

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  41. SummerOfGeorge

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    (a) I absolutely think the Chipper stuff resonated in the front office (if at the very least by how much is resonated with the fan base), and I think he knew it would and that's why he decided to say something. When Chipper talks hitting people listen.

    (b) I'm not sure I completely agree that this means a "shift". Like we discussed over and over, they want guys to be 3 true outcome.........the other positive outcome beside a home run is a WALK. This group doesn't WALK. They don't have good at bats. They don't get on base. The organizational approach to hitting is based around GETTING ON BASE and hitting home runs. We were awful at that aspect of things this past year and at the biggest moments of the postseason the last 3 years. Seitzer wasn't able to make any changes with that, so they are going to look for someone who can.

    There are certain guys on this roster who have shown the ability to have good at bats and walk (Ronald, Murphy, Olson, Riley, Soler, Ozuna) but we also have some guys who just kind of are what they are - hackers (Ozzie, Mike, Arcia). So, the roster composition kind of is what it is.
     
  42. Tobias

    Tobias we’re on to tcu
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    focusing more on walks tells me that we are planning to sign soto this off-season
     
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  43. One Man Wolfpack

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    If I’m remembering Chipper’s interview correctly, he didn’t actually place the blame on the coaches, but moreso the organization as a whole.

    From the front office to the analytics department, he said it was an organizational philosophy that they valued the HR over anything else, by far.
     
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  44. seanofthedead86

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    Welp, kinda feel bad about Seitzer now finding out his wife was diagnosed with colon cancer during the season.
     
  45. Jake Barnes

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    Absolutely.

    So tired of watching low-patience 0-2 counts turn into 2-2 on two trash pitches before they swing and miss on a borderline pitch they could have avoided if they’d just taken one of the first two strikes.
     
  46. southlick

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  47. seanofthedead86

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    “It was the hardest season of my life, because guys were trying so hard and couldn’t get going, and I couldn’t get them to (not press),” Seitzer said. “If they can find somebody to get these guys to not try so hard, that needs to be the guy they hire. You can talk about mechanics until the cows come home, but this (struggles this season) was all between the ears.”

    https://www.nytimes.com/athletic/58...zer-fired-reaction?source=user-shared-article
     
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  48. It'sAlwaysSunnyInAthens

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    Some truth to this for sure.
     
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