Jimbo Fisher is an Aggie

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  1. JonathanCoachman

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    A couple years ago I saw that they had a History forum and was curious to find out what crazy shit they believe and on the very first topic I read the 3rd or 4th post was a call for a Muslim genocide and after seeing the replies all endorsed the idea I had to GTFO.

    Schools that recruit against A&M really should use Texags as a weapon against them. Any player that isn’t white, Protestant, and conservative would quickly read something that appalled them.
     
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  2. Bricktop the white

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    I quoted this post at 11:26. I am going to go hunt for a texags politics post that is explicit fucked up right now. When i post it, remember that it takes a few minutes to edit in MS Paint.

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    I decided to go with this but i found a bunch of other racist shit within 4 minutes.
     
  3. JonathanCoachman

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    If there were a place for gays in College Station, they could have non-repressed homosexual students rather than all those not at all strange “Cadets”.
     
  4. IV

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    lol why would Jimbo negotiate down?
     
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  5. Bricktop the white

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    more upfront cash would be the only reason
     
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  6. IV

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    I thought there was a ludicrous payment schedule like 100% in 60 days
     
  7. IanBoyd

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    20 million within 60 days, rest paid in annual installments until 2031 I believe.
     
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  9. wes tegg

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    But no duty to mitigate or setoff provisions. He’s not taking anything less than the whole thing.
     
  10. JonathanCoachman

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    If I were Jimmy Sexton, I'd probably try and talk Jimbo out of not taking the whole thing so he doesn't risk the spotlight shifting towards himself. I'd love to know what Jimmy Sexton get paid per hour that he actually has to do real work.
     
  11. ned's head

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    Lol what? You think he wouldn't want extra affirmation that he's the far and away best college agent in the world?
     
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  12. JonathanCoachman

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    He already is the undisputed best college football agent. The ridiculous salaries head coaches make nowadays is basically all his doing. Most people that follow college football probably don't know who he is and I bet he'd like to keep it that way. He's probably going to make a lot of money because a big spending school fired one of his clients and will replace them with another client of his.
     
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  13. Gallant Knight

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    Being an agent sounds cool but it would lowkey suck. On call 24/7/365 and he probably is in contact with every one of his clients every week. I’m sure he is on the road a ton as well.
     
  14. CB

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    just wow
     
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  15. JonathanCoachman

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    It probably sucks to be a players agent with his kind of client list but with coaches, most of the shit he does gets done within a month. He does travel a lot but I'd love to go to the best game every week and get treated like a VIP.
     
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  16. IanBoyd

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    Also if he were to take another coaching job, that salary wouldn't offset or lessen the payout, its literally the most asinine coaching contract ever signed.
     
  17. Gallant Knight

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    All to prevent him from going to lsu
     
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  18. CB

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    one last breakdown and then I retire from this bit
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    ended his time at A&M with 9 consecutive road losses. 7-12 in his last 19 vs P5 opponents. 1-7 in final 8 games as a dog

    just astounding how bad (and predictable) he became post Covid

    it's been fun, y'all. if you need big time program data since 1992, tag me
     
  19. JonathanCoachman

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  20. Gallant Knight

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    Can we get some info on #Tottenham Hotspur

    Nm you said big programs I doubt you keep info on small clubs
     
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    I mean it’s Alex Kirschner of the Split Zone Duo pod / media group. Not exactly an outsider.
     
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  22. JonathanCoachman

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    I’ve heard the name. This was only his 5th article for The Guardian so it’s good it’s not just some no name writer that won’t get noticed.

    Right now, its near the top of the sites homepage next to an article about conservators being more worried about Trump than they were on Jan 6th.
     
  23. Where Eagles Dare

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    These are always like 90% too long. Good start then fizzles
     
  24. broXcore

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    my word, hes still got it
     
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  25. steamengine

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    A pettier man than me and one who was by humbled by the lords grace would go through and quote all the posts I made saying exactly how this would end up.
     
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  27. Nostradumass

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    Looking forward to following you in the "Jimbo Fisher is a Mountaineer" thread.
     
  28. The Banks

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    Now I’m curious who is/isn’t a “big time program since 1992”
     
  29. CB

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    it's easier to list who than who isn't

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    the 18 programs who can win a title if they operate at their peak ability; aka the Elites

    and just as a comparison, the 18 vs the rest of P5

    30 of 33 titles (this includes the splits in 97 and 03)
    55 of 62 National Title game appearances
    32 of 36 CFP appearances
    122 of 154 final top 5 spots
    an aggregate .703 win % compared to .523 for all other P5 programs

    and yes, you'll notice 3 are in the ACC, 5 will be in the new B1G, 9 in the new SEC, and ND as independent
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  30. Voodoo

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    I’m surprised ND actually made this list. Easily the worst 30 year stretch in program history.
     
  31. CB

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    recruiting. recruiting plays a heavy role as you have to be able to get the recruits thus why you don't see a Wisconsin on this list despite their success

    I "stole" the list from Bud Elliott, then expanded on it. I also track recruiting (blue chip ratio, avg player rating), then I have something like this:

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    you see how the power conferences stack up in terms of their most recent 4 year cycle; I also track the deviation from the mean as it relates to player rating as I believe player rating is more informative than blue chip ratio

    with that done, you can look at the CFP since 2014 and what their 4 year recruiting looked like:
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    I noticed a trend:

    35 of 36 CFP participants had a 3 year win % prior to their appearance of at least .600
    32 of 36 CFP participants had an avg player rating across the most recent 4 cycles of 88.00
    32 of 36 CFP participants had their avg player rating within 0.5 deviations from the mean

    32 of 36 met all 3 criteria. with that in mind,

    prior to the year I identified 11 programs who met all those criteria and expected the CFP to come from that group:

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    as we sit today, UGa, Bama, OSU, Michigan, and Oregon are all still alive. We likely get an outlier in the vein of Sparty, Wash, Cincy, and TCU as one would expect the 4th spot to go to a FSU or Washington or even Texas (they missed due to their 3 year window record)

    current AP top 10 below
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  32. LSUTigers1986

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    I was curious and to save everyone some time, the 3 titles in the “have nots” on that list are all Nebraska (94, 95, 97).
     
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    Have you figured out how to include the portal in this recruiting spreadsheet yet?
     
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  34. CB

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    I use the comprehensive rankings after NSD that do include portal class so if/when a player is re-rated, the data captures it

    it's far from perfect but I do believe it helps some. I also don't use team talent composite, instead I focus on what you sign in a 4 year window so you wouldn't want to use these as a comparator of what lines up Saturday, but the data does represent the type of talent you can accumulate

    I'm curious to see how the services evolve in evaluating the portal, how I can capture that in what I track and then ultimately what does the average profile look like for teams who make the 12 team playoff. I've been playing with hypotheticals based on the last 9 years and if the 12 team was in place and I can say at this time, it's not near as easy to narrow down the field from 72 teams to say 11 like I did this year

    if y'all are interested I can post updates on things I'm looking at and the results. And I always welcome insights and new ways to look at the data sets
     
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  35. Bricktop the white

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    Nebraska should be a have :twocents:

    they’ve made some insanely dumb hires but they have a winning tradition and are about to be swimming around in an ocean of b1g money. If they get their NIL running right they should be able to recruit nationally.
     
  36. CB

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    I am looking to expand the list as I feel 18 is a little too limited. Washington, Nebraska, and Michigan St are three I would likely add immediately
     
  37. VaxRule

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    It’s just interesting to me to see how the entire college football world changes in their approach to recruiting and reporting on it in this new portal world. Just as a Michigan fan, the most important recruit we got last year was probably Olu Oluwatimi - a guy that was unranked out of high school, but a second team all-American by the time he went to Ann Arbor.
     
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  38. Owsley

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    About to be? They’ve been in the richest conference for a dozen years now so it’s not like money has been holding them back. They just aren’t an elite program in today’s landscape.
     
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  39. CB

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    given I use the overall composite class and he was re-rated a 4 star, he is counted a blue chip signee for Michigan's 2022 class
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  40. Henry Blake

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    Compared to you guys, I don't really follow this at all. But, who would you consider to be the most interested portal transfers based on their transformations after moving to another school? They were just okay at the first school and then really thrived at school number two.
     
  41. Bricktop the white

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    They made some very bad coaching hires. I don’t see any reason they can’t make a 12 team playoff or occasionally go on a run every few years if rhule is the same guy he was at Baylor.
     
  42. Owsley

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    The B1G is about to get way more difficult so maybe they can catch lightning in a bottle somewhere, but it’s hard to see them ascending anywhere past 8-4/9-3 in that landscape.
     
  43. CB

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    I'll be honest, I don't get into the weeds and look closely at portal guys, I more just track what impacts it has on a school's overall class composition

    but for me, one of the easiest is Jordan Travis. he could barely throw a football (seriously) when he left Louisville. We as FSU fans were ready for Norvell to go get a QB in the portal after the 2021 season as we thought there was absolutely no way he'd ever be able to lead this program to anything more than 5 or 6 wins. And then 2022 happen

    I'm sure there are other examples like this, but this is just the one that I have the most intimate knowledge about
     
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  44. CB

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    I tend to lean this way. Nebraska is gonna be what, the 9th best program in the new B1G?

    OSU, Michigan, USC, Oregon, PSU, Washington are all clearly above them. And then you can make a strong argument for Wisky and probably Sparty. Then Nebraska falls somewhere in that next tier with Iowa, Maryland, and Illinois

    not having a natural recruiting ground to rely makes it tough for any program no matter how much money they have. And much of Nebraska's past successes came when they had access to Texas and California talent in their Big 8/BXII days. will adding the West Coast schools re-open some of that pipeline? Maybe. But I'm still not overly convinced they can recruit at a top 15ish level consistently. And with so many established programs in front of them in the pecking order, they are still going to be reliant on some of those 6 or 7 programs being down to really open a pathway for them

    2014-23 Nebraska has recruited like Missouri and Arkansas with their avg recruit rating being 0.124 deviations above the mean (and around 25% blue chip). the climb is a steep one to close the gap. In 2024, as compared to the B1G as a whole, Nebraska has recruited in the middle of the pack, on par with Sparty and Maryland
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  45. CB

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    when you look at how the elites (the 18 programs identified) have recruited since 2014, you see why there is a very clear divide between the haves and have nots

    *the record information does not have 2023 results included yet; this is a separate workbook from my other ones
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  46. steamengine

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    Lol at Nebraska being a have. That program is cooked.
     
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  47. CB

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    just to expand

    the titles are all Nebraska
    the 7 NCG appearances are: 5 for Nebraska (93, 94, 95, 97, 01), 1 for VT (99), 1 for TCU (22)
    the 4 CFP bids are: Sparty (2015), Washington (2016), Cincy (2021), TCU (2022)
     
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  48. HtownTide

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    Im sure I am not alone in this, but Nebraska leaving the Big 12 seems like the biggest conference realignment misstep that I can think of
     
  49. bigred77

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    And they did it because they didn't think the b12 rules would allow them to stay competitive