**NASCAR Thread: Stand With Bubba**

Discussion in 'The Mainboard' started by Dayne Crist, Feb 12, 2011.

  1. Redav

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    Yea and he made no attempt to make the corner. Also Joey, if you like him or not, is a proven winner so even if he moves somebody he belongs. There's a bit of Austin Dillon not belonging in the first place to all this imo
     
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  2. dblplay1212

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    So what's the line? Dumping 1 car, which has been done hundreds of times, is ok? But 2 is illegal? Don't get me wrong, I understand Joey and Hamlin getting pissed, but they've dumped plenty of people. Hell the announcers knew what was going to happen bc it's totally expected at some tracks. But now it's illegal?
     
  3. Redav

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    When the first car you clean out, you're not even to his bumper so you have to way over drive the corner to get to him. So much so that even after hitting him you still can't make the corner so you get passed by the 3rd place car who you then also wreck. I feel like that's a pretty clear line.
     
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  4. racer

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    dbl not be wrong challenge (impossible)
     
  5. dblplay1212

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    lol na I get people being mad, it was extreme, I just think it opens up issues with the next bump and run or the next time someone gets dumped.
     
  6. racer

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    Don’t do it to two cars in the span of a corner (or in the same race) and you’re ok. It’s pretty clear.
     
  7. PAHokie

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    Everyone said if he gets close he’ll move him, which is a totally valid move, but then as they went down the backstretch they said he’s not close enough, 22 gonna get the win. Then the 3 wipes him out with no real shot at winning himself, until he right hooks someone (biggest no no in the game).
     
  8. El_Pato

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    There is a huge difference between a bump and run and putting two guys into the wall in one corner
     
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  9. kennypowers

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    Very new to nascar so my opinion is probably flawed, but the move last Sunday seemed to blatantly fly in the face of what I would consider the sport of racing. In no other competitive racing league, be it cars or track and field or whatever, can you just start picking off the field. Except roller derby I guess. Or Mario Kart.
     
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  10. Redav

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    This is what a lot of drivers said that I heard. It struck at the essence of racing in that it's not racing. It's more akin to demolition derby.


    Also NASCAR wants this because they made winning so important for getting into the post season so it's one of those where NASCAR encourages this kind of shit through policy but then when it plays out they're aghast.
     
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  11. kennypowers

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    I don’t know the history of how they landed on this particular format for crowning a champion, but it seems absolutely batshit.
     
  12. Redav

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    The other problem to me is nascar loves throwing cautions and having restarts. I mean I like them too but that's why we have overtime. Dillon was going to win the race but we have to finish under green (pretty sure nascar is the only major racing body that does this) so we get a restart. Joey might be the best at restarts in the series and of course he beats Dillon off the line
     
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  13. Redav

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    2003 or 04 Matt Kenneth won the championship while only winning one race. It was compounded by him being so consistent at running up front that he won it a race early. There was no drama and it was won by a guy who only won one race. So we got the first "chase" the next year and we've gotten more and more bastardized versions of it every few years.
     
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  14. kennypowers

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    Ah ok that makes sense.
     
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  15. sc_chant

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    I'm fine with having winners get in, but maybe you have to say, the first x-number of different drivers are in. Or only multiple race winners are guaranteed spot.
     
  16. Jeffrey Lebowski

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    or nix the playoffs and run a standard points system like nearly every other racing league.
     
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  17. Redav

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    I think the playoffs often don't really capture who was the champion of the sport every year either.

    There are reddit threads that will rescore chase/playoff seasons with the old scoring. Think Gordon and Harvick would have several more championships under the old scoring system
     
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  18. sc_chant

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    I mean, that can be said for just about every sport with a playoff.
     
  19. kennypowers

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    Cashed a ridiculous Carson Hocevar top 10 ticket today. Excited to watch the replay tonight.
     
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  20. PAHokie

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    Only caught the last lap and there were a lot of position changes on that OT.
     
  21. Redav

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    Feel like Hocevar is going to be good very soon. Needs a better ride
     
  22. kennypowers

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    The guy I was listening to pre race was high on him, said he finds speed he just tends to make a mistake or two per race that kill him.
     
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  23. Redav

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    He's way out performing his teammates and beating a number of guys who are in better cars. And he's 21
     
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  24. Redav

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    Race is good so far.
     
  25. kennypowers

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    Brb live betting every ford
     
  26. Redav

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    They've been so aggressive so far. I'm shocked they haven't wrecked already
     
  27. kennypowers

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    Nice shove Lajoie
     
  28. kennypowers

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    That was a TERRIFYING wreck for Berry.
     
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  29. racer

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    Jeff your little boy has done it
     
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  30. dblplay1212

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    He went way below the yellow line. Idk if that's legal anymore or not.
     
  31. racer

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    lol shut the fuck up dbl
     
  32. dblplay1212

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    It was reviewed :idk:

    On replay I agree the contact made him bobble and go low. That wasn't clear live.
     
  33. southlick

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  34. southlick

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  35. racer

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  36. southlick

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  37. southlick

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    25 laps to go!!
     
  38. kennypowers

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    This could not be setup any better for playoff implications
     
  39. dblplay1212

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    Damn 18 was there and now he's losing a little
     
  40. kennypowers

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    Also this USA/NBC broadcast is light years ahead of the Fox one. This double box with KFB camera and the overall camera is so good.
     
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  41. dblplay1212

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  42. Redav

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    Fox doesn't even take it seriously. I hate their broadcasts
     
  43. racer

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  44. racer

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    Wild race for 2nd

    on a related note: 80% of these xfinity drivers have no business in a race car on a road course.
     
  45. dblplay1212

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  46. racer

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    What a time to be alive
     
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  47. PAHokie

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    This could be a monumental moment in the sport.
     
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  48. bigred77

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    That's a lot of cars
     
  49. Redav

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    Great straight on shot at the end so you have no idea who won.
     
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  50. southlick

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    How much do Nascar racers make for winning a race?
     
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