Official Middle East/ISIS thread: Tehran up another part of the Middle East

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  1. Illinihockey

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  3. IvanTheTerrible

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    Part of me wonders how much the United States can reasonably influence Israel at this point. It just feels that for the last year...they've broken the chain, and USA leadership is stuck in a position where they know they can't reel in Israel and so are going with supporting them to make it look like they still have some measure of control of things.

    The constant escalation in the face of every bit of international condemnation makes it feel at least like Israel is done taking advice now.

    Also, the theory that this escalation isn't popular among Israelis is pure chickenshit to me.
     
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  4. Pile Driving Miss Daisy

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    The US could absolutely influence them by cutting off the money faucet. It really isn't complicated imo, just have the balls to actually fight AIPAC.
     
  5. timo

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    They won't do shit until after the election. Israel could (and might - they bombed a Russian airfield in Syria yesterday) start World War III in the next 4 weeks and the Biden Administration will just stand by and run coverage for their best buds.

    Can't risk Pennsylvania. Bottom line.

    Even though the Israeli Government is clearly funding a massive bot campaign on social media aimed at swaying US voters to vote for Donald Trump. The amount of dead accounts that Israel (and probably some other foreign actors) bought up from Elon to dump propaganda on twitter has to be in the tens of millions.
     
  6. Illinihockey

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    I thought bombing Russian air fields was good.
     
  7. Illinihockey

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    I for one am flummoxed why the US government isn’t backing Iran, Russia, Syria, Hezbollah, and Hamas
     
  8. timo

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    :meh:
    Israel is as bad - actually, they're probably worse - than any of those entities, so maybe the USG shouldn't be "backing" anyone in that region.

    It's beyond fucked up that the Biden Administration is backing a nation whose leadership is both actively interfering in the Presidential Election by supporting their Fascist opponent, committing genocide, and expanding a regional war.
     
  9. Illinihockey

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    its legitimately insane you believe that. You’ve been in this thread for a long time, you’ve seen what’s happened in Syria. You want me to link the video of Hezbollah in Syria punting a bunch of blindfolded and tied up men into a pit of tires and then lighting it on fire?

    I don’t know how your brain got so warped into backing terrorist organizations or making ridiculous equivalency statements. Iran was a huge instigator in the Iraqi civil, Iran is the instigator of the Yemeni civil war. The only reason Israel is in Lebanon is because Hezbollah started attacking them at Iran’s direction a year ago. The only reason they are in Gaza is because Hamas thought they were going have massive support from Hezbollah and Iran. The only reason they’ve launched missiles at Yemen is because Houthis shot missiles at Israel at Iran’s behest.
     
  10. timo

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    Again, I don't think there's any difference between what Hezbollah does and what Israel does. None.

    And to correct your second paragraph, the only reason Israel is in Lebanon is to twist the knife into Biden's back and affect the US election. It's basically elder abuse at this point. The US and French had basically negotiated a peace deal and Beebs went all "can't have that" so Israel blew the hands and genitals off of everyone with a pager in Lebanon. It's a fucking miracle none of these people were on a commercial flight when they went off, btw.
     
  11. Illinihockey

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    I know you don’t it’s perverse.
     
  12. timo

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    Both insanely cruel with an open disdain for human life.
     
  13. timo

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    anyway, things are going great for US diplomacy in the region.
     
  14. Bert Handsome

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    I can't believe that like 2 months ago this guy was really trying to run for four more years

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  15. WhiskeyDelta

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    Busy backing the slave states in the Gulf (Saudi, Qatar, Bahrain), propping up Arab Yugoslavia (Iraq), military dictatorships (Egypt), genocidal apartheid states (Israel), genocide denying dictatorships (Turkey, Azerbaijan), and various militias and terrorist groups in the region (various Kurds depending on your definition, Syrian opposition)
     
  16. timo

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  17. THEBLUERAIDER

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    “That’s war, baby.”
     
  18. Pile Driving Miss Daisy

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    If only Hamas would surrender then we wouldn't have to kill all these people, including children. I am a good person and not a genocidal right-wing freak.
     
  19. TrustyPatches

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    Buddy lists out traumatic war events like theyre call of duty levels.

    “Are you gonna starve 10s of thousands of innocent people or do you not wanna beat the game?”
     
  20. Illinihockey

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    I am sure the gazan health ministry is undercounting deaths by 62,000. All they did was look at the IPC definition and then do math. This estimate is based on no empirical data. They conveniently left out things like

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    There is currently no famine in Gaza, a new report by the key Integrated Food Security Phase Classification (IPC) organization has found, despite predicting in March that a full-blown famine would break out in the territory between March and July 2024.

    The new study says that assumptions about the amount of food that would enter the territory turned out to be wrong, and that the supply of food to Gaza increased instead of decreasing during recent months.

    “In this context, the available evidence does not indicate that famine is currently occurring,” the report finds.


    …….


    Hamas puts out videos almost daily. If there was a mountain of dead bodies of starved people you’d see it. Instead they list starvation deaths at 26.
     
  21. Pile Driving Miss Daisy

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    edit: not worth it
     
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  22. Deep dirt

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    This schtick is worse than most of what the now banned shitpitters did. Don’t get why he’s still around honestly.
     
  23. hood b. goode

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    this kinda feels like a landmark moment...?

     
  24. (Z)

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    Isn’t he Lebanese descent?
     
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  25. hood b. goode

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    Yep, I guess im just thinking that this is the first (small) nfl commentary on US middle east policy that weve seen in a long time. I could be forgetting something
     
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    Iirc he's been consistently doing this for a while.
     
  27. Bruce Wayne

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    God that's sad
     
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  28. timo

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    that's because Israel deliberately and relentlessly targets children.

    The aim is to destroy Palestinians' future, not just steal the land they've lived on for millennia.
     
  29. mmm

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    That's nauseating.
     
  30. JonathanCoachman

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    The past is being destroyed as well. They’ve bulldozed graveyards. Pretty odd wartime behavior unless the entire intent was genocidal in nature. But a very reputable poster in this thread assures me that’s not what’s been happening.
     
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  31. timo

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    short piece by Ash Sarkar this morning which summarizes where we are with this brutal, endless conflict.
     
  32. WhiskeyDelta

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    I've mentioned it before but cemeteries are Tier-1 No-Strike facilities on the same level as embassies, religious buildings, and water sources.

    You can find this list on the CIA's released documents page.

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  33. timo

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    I guess I missed the IDF aiming a tank at Irish UN observers in Lebanon.
     
  34. JonathanCoachman

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    Looks like an IDF scavenger hunt type activity. First soldier to check off the whole list gets a Mediterranean Coast Mansion.
     
  35. THEBLUERAIDER

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    Can’t believe those babies shot those missiles.
     
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  37. JonathanCoachman

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  38. Jax Teller

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    We’ve been saying this for months. Mods as gutless as the administration is. It’s not like he actually brings any information to TMB. At least none that’s not Israeli propaganda. I think some people just have a fetish for arguing with him.
     
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  39. Jax Teller

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    It’s like a whose who of sites that Israel has hit.
     
  40. CaneKnight

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    It’s already been established that talking bad about Zionists (which btw is the racist belief in an ethnostate…. If I remember correctly there was certain European country that also believed in a ethnically pure ethnostate state at one point in history….)is not welcomed on the board in fact you’ll be called an antisemite which is something straight out of the IDF playbook if you do so here it is not welcomed and will get you banned


    BUT celebrating the death of brown children in the thousands isn’t just welcomed here, you’ll be allowed to have ur own thread to partake in dancing on those children’s graves. That’s something that people I guess enjoy on this message board

    Americans as a whole don’t believe Palestinians or anyone in the Middle East for that matter that aren’t Israeli are people. Goes on here just like it does everywhere else
     
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  41. timo

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    Uhhhhh yeah the US is absolutely a caste system. :laugh: what point is this person trying to make here
     
  43. timo

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    racist columnist who writes for a couple of publications that are virulently anti-Palestinian, trying to argue against Coates' book.
    (which -btw- I bought over the weekend but haven't started reading yet)
     
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  44. JonathanCoachman

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    Israel pretty much has a caste system amongst different populations of Jews. The majority of the Jewish population in Israel are Mizrahi (descended from non European Jews) but every Prime Minister has been Ashkenazi.

    Ethiopian Jews are treated like a combination of America’s treatment of Latin American immigrants and Jim Crow era black peoples in the south.

    They’ll always find a way to be awful racists no matter how marginal the differences are.
     
  45. Killy Me Please

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    Hey we dont suck that bad. Look at the Americans! Lol
     
  46. timo

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    Projecting arrogance and encouraging regional (and global) hatred is obviously their strategy though. They don't care if Lebanese people from any background (Shia, Sunni, Druze, Christian) hate them and come to see them (and not Hezbollah) as their enemy. They'll take what they want and kill who they want, and it's an enormously popular sentiment in Israel.
     
  47. CaneKnight

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    It’s wild how these guys are just moving like the Nazis every fucking day and western countries are running cover for these actions.
     
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  48. Illinihockey

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    Im sure the Christian’s of Lebanon who have terrorized by Hezbollah and Iran are very upset Israel destroyed a statue of an Iranian general pointing at Israel erected by Hezbollah. The Lebanese army withdrew out of southern Lebanon because they want Hezbollah destroyed as well. And there aren’t many Sunni Lebanese in the south anymore because they fled to Syria because of Hezbollah.

    honest question, how should Israel deal with Hezbollah firing rockets into Israel? You’ve come out against special operations, air strikes, and a ground invasion, so what is it?
     
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