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Discussion in 'Game of Thrones (ASOIAF)' started by Swim Cantore, Aug 23, 2016.
shit, yeah, you're right.
He is the worst
Honestly you see that the state of Mississippi’s education being dead last and then you learn that pearl is a teacher in that state and it all makes sense now
Because he's Pearl
i started with season 7 and read a bunch of stuff on the wiki so i knew pretty much all of it already
finished season 6 last night. seasons 5 and 6 were easily the weakest of the first 6 imo. seemed like too much stuff happened in the first 3 and then they had to kind of stall for awhile so that dany's invasion would line up more nicely with things in westeros.
In the books seasons 3 and 4 are essentially book 3 and after that there was supposed to be a 5 year gap, but when George started writing it he couldn’t work it out. So post-red weddding he sort of just scrapped his plan and it shows in both the show and the books.
jon snow basically plays jon snow in some movie called pompeii
A dream of spring, indeed
It better come back the week after the Super Bowl
Just finished a season 1-7 rewatch. Definitely got more of a rushed vibe in the last season when framed against earlier seasons.
I think that's what bugged me about the way they've ended it. The earlier seasons were so protracted trying not to pass the books / wait for Winds of Winter to come out. Once they figured out it wasn't happening, they hit fast forward in the writing. Things that happen in one episode now could have taken half a season earlier in the show and there's virtually no expose or nuance anymore, just a race to the finish. I think they'd agree and if they could go back they'd space out the plot points more evenly.
Yep this show needed four final seasons not two.
I bet Winds of Winter won't even be out by then.
It'll come out the day after the finale.
It's never coming out
Like Jon giving the Wildlings responsibility for guarding the wall. This is an insane flipping of all norms from previous generations... and we get 15 seconds of Tormund and Beric looking over the wall before it gets brought down. I don't think it needs a full season or anything, but it was something and then nothing in almost an instant
I’m reserving judgment until I see the ending. I’m curious to know what information they knew at what stages of writing. That said, the last season was disastrous in terms of writing and pacing for a ton of reasons.
For instance, I think they knew Dany’s ending as shown by the two visions in the Tower of the Undying. But the actual ending of the show (Jon’s/Westeros’ ultimate fate) seems to have been less known until the more recent seasons imo
Nah Jon being a king was there from the beginning of ASOIAF, and the truth of his parentage was one of Georges questions to D&D when they approached him to adapt it
Edit: unless you mean whether Jon lives or dies and whatnot. Even then I feel like that's been known, though DD are within their right to change it
Oh most definitely. The whole story is pretty much about Jon and his parentage. I just want to know at what expense of other storylines did they make sure to get the ending they wanted. They botched Dorne and Jaime (although the ending I think Jaime is gonna get is still on the table)
I think 2 full seasons would have solved a lot of the pacing problems. I don't really understand having the final 2 seasons be the shortest, especially when so much needs to happen.
I'm guessing the first 3-4 episodes of season 8 deal mainly with fighting the army of the dead while the last 2 are dealing with Cersei and wrapping up everything the best that they can. It's going to feel rushed and likely unsatisfying.
Really going out on a limb there.
Has GRRM mentioned whether the ending of GoT will mirror the end of ASOIAF? I feel like that’s kind of a big deal considering the likelihood we get the final two books.
I don’t think it’s been explicitly said but I think it’ll happen. The books and the show are at such a different place but to me there’s a logical conclusion that makes sense for both with lots of evidence to back it up.
The army of the dead and the night king are defeated but at a great cost including Dany’s life. Kings Landing is retaken by the remaining forces (Jaime kills Cersei in her attempt to blow down the whole city). Jon, losing two women he loved and seeing an absurd amount of death and tragedy, assumes the throne but is a broken man. He marries Sansa not out of love but of need, as she is very qualified to be queen. She essentially takes over as monarch with Tyrion, Jon’s hand.
My two cents.
Interesting. I only recently got into GoT this past October. I’ve only seen the show, but I’ve purchased all of the books as I am now obsessed.
This may be a product of me having only seen the show to date but I feel as if Jon and Dany’s fates are intertwined. Either they both die or both live. I know GRRM has that quote about a bittersweet ending. I could see either fulfilling that idea depending on how it’s written and, of course, execution.
The books are quite different post Red Wedding. Lots of plot twists. And then you begin to question the decisions the show made. Enjoy man
I am definitely excited and looking forward to it. It’s kind of amazing I’ve watched a 7 season show based off of the series and yet there is so much I’m still missing.
I’m guessing based off of your previous answer that you believe Jon is AA? I’ve scoured through different corners of the internet to discuss the series and I’ve seen tons of people (who seem to know what the fuck they are talking about) argue that Jon or Dany is AA. I feel as if that’s a testament to GRRM’s writing. However, it could just be people’s biases based off of favorite storylines and characters lol. I also have no idea whether I need to be spoilering this.
Personally I like the theory from alt shift x that Rhaegar Targaryen is AA more, with Jon being the metaphorical embodiment of Lightbringer.
I personally believe AA and The Prince That Was Promised is the same person. Jon is definitely The Prince That Was Promised if you’re going off the show. Obviously, Ned promises Lyanna to keep Jon safe and his identity a secret. I also believe Jon is the prince Ned inadvertently promises to Sansa when he tells her she will marry Joffrey
Game of Thrones Star Reveals Which Month Season 8 Will Premiere in 2019 http://www.ign.com/articles/2018/01...ls-which-month-season-8-will-premiere-in-2019
To save everyone else the click, April. The month is April per Maisie
That's the last month a show needs to be on air to be eligible for awards season and HBO wants pretty much all of them for the final season of GoT so that's pretty obvious.
Rewatched Spoils of War tonight. Still get chills when Drogon first appears above the charging Dothraki while Jaime watches helplessly and his men piss themselves.
The Hound is fucked
One of my favorite moments in the entire series. Jaime's expressions as he hears Drogon then tries to spot him in the sky are so good. A nice mixture of terror, amazement and, ultimately, disbelief. Obviously he's known about the dragons and they have the scorpion there to try and use against them but he still can't quite believe one of them is there and he's about to have to try and put up a fight against it.
Completely agree. When Dany came out of the fire at the end of season 1, this is the exact moment everyone wanted.
In my 78th rewatch right now. 6.4 "Book of the Stranger" had some awesome shit with Ramsey's "Come and See" letter, followed by Khaleesi conquering Vaes Dothrak.
Immediately started the next episode without checking which one it was.. It was "The Door". Luckily my dog 'Hodor' was already asleep or it could've been devastating to him.
Great back to back eps there
what am I looking at here, in the context of GOT?
The frigid cold air that comes with the walkers
That looks like the I-5 from Orange County to San Diego.