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Discussion in 'TV Board' started by LKRFN88jp, May 13, 2015.
in a good or bad way?
In a "HOLY SHIT THAT JUST BLEW MY FUCKING MIND" way.
i think she was lying too. i don't believe she ever went through with the machine, if you'll notice right as the water starts to reach her face, she starts to scream something right as they cut the scene. you don't get to hear what she says, leaving open the possibility that she chickened out and had them stop.
When they start playing god only knows when president Kevin cuts into assassin, god damn. Also have to be the millionth person to say Carrie Coon is the best.
While I agree she was lying, I don't see how that lifts the burden of her grief. I also don't see how him going along with the lie sets them up for this future of happiness.
So was kind of the point of the show to say that our existential reality is so awful that the only semblance of happiness we can find in life is through our own self deceit?
Or life is what you make of it.
Kind of had the same point as LOST... The people that you care about and the relationships you have with them are the point of your life.
So life is better when you make it a more digestible lie? it just seems to me that the idea of Nora finally finding happiness by embracing an outright lie about the most significant portion of her psyche is kind of ridiculous. Maybe the point is she is destined to be miserable but she would rather be miserable with Kevin than without him?
You're assuming it was a lie. I'm not sure you can do that.
You like to see homos naked?!
I think the creators intention was for the audience to look inward. If you're searching for answers, they might never come. If you think it's all random, that might be the case too. But what you can control is how you cope with grief and struggle but also relationships. Because at the end of the day, what we all should hold dear is love and friendship. At least that's the why I choose to see it.
Two things still bother me. One, Laurie didn't kill herself. That was very un-Leftovers. Second, how do you have a finale that doesn't address the supernatural nature of Kevin? If it was just a show about how we're all fucked up and how we deal with grief, you don't need the Lazarus/Jesus story-line. If you're going to have that at least make it matter.
Fuck the Emmys
I've never really followed the Emmys but holy shit what a miss here. My only conclusion is that the voters just didn't watch the show. I don't see how a mediocre 5th season of House of Cards gets a nom over groundbreaking TV like S3 of The Leftovers.
To think Carrie Coon put on a better performance in Fargo (solid performance, also in different categories) than The Leftovers is criminal. She did a good job in Fargo but she was lights out in The Leftovers.
Burn the Emmy's to the fucking ground.
I honestly thought that the moment Nora had with Matt about the baseball game would lock it up for Coon. It's ridiculous that not enough people took notice. Everyone involved with the show deserved credit.
If S2 wasn't nominated (I'm just assuming it wasn't) for anything then I guess this shouldn't be a surprise. People still overlooking this show don't deserve it, fuck 'em.
I mean Barb from Stranger Things got a nomination
Why does Barb get so much fucking attention? She was the worst part of the show. The fact that she got nominated is laughable and is a direct result of the "Justice for Barb" nonsense from morons on social media.
Emmys are so political. HBO pushed for Westworld to get the drama nominations instead of The Leftovers. Makes sense they would want their first year drama to get the praise over the drama that just ended. It's still bullshit.
I really enjoyed the first season of Westworld, but to say it is better than S3 of The Leftovers is almost laughable, IMO.
Obviously I am a fanboy, but The Leftovers should have swept Best Drama, Best Lead Actor, and Best Lead Actress at the Emmy's this year.
It's sad how much the Emmy's have become about ratings than actual quality content.
Looks like it will go down with The Wire as one of the best shows ever that didn't get any love from the Emmys.
The Wire only had 2 nominations over its 5 seasons. Both for writing.
I didn't know that. Its nice to know the Emmys mean literally nothing now.
That is a great comparison.
I honestly believe (hope?), five years from now The Leftovers will be looked at like The Wire is now.
I think it deserves to be.
Stranger Things getting nominated for anything more than best kid actor or best kids show (not even sure these are categories) is ridiculous. It was a fun show and nostalgic, but not much more than that.
This is a very serious question and I'm sorry if it offends but who the fuck watches Ray Donovan
I gave up mid way through season 1. It wasn't doing it for me
Did the same after really enjoying the pilot.
4 episodes in. Why do the GR not talk?
keep watching and make sure you get to season 2...amazing.
Twitter just made me realize that the series finale happen one year ago today.
Season 2 was good.. season 3 was a huge pile of shit and a waste of time.
This is a horrible post.
Season 3 was incredible television
Sucks that you don’t “get it”
Just did a series binge based on a conversation I had with NYGator in a random TSB thread. It was solid, thought they had at least a few more seasons they could have got out of the first two seasons material. Wrap up was good though, especially when you see a show like Bloodlines and how they basically shit on a grave. Different genre and all that, point is they wrapped up a fuckton more content and questions about a trillion times better.
I'm 4 episodes into season 1. Not exactly feeling it. Gave up on Lost after a couple seasons, but it's not as though I'm not open to similar story lines involving the paranormal, alternate universes, dystopia, etc. This seems like the start of a plot, though, where little ever makes sense and there's always going to be some deus ex machina around the corner.
Stick or leave?
Starting watching this when it first came out and we bailed around E4 as well. I'm not telling you it's a top 10 series all time but we thought it was really good.
Season 2 is incredible. Makes it all worthwhile.
Season 2 is peak
Sounds like I should stick.
Season 1 can be a little rocky, but the show is pretty flawless from that point forward, IMO.
It’s tough to get my friends to make it through s1 which is a shame, s2 and 3 are amazing
This show isn't about finding out what happened during the departure, and the show never really gives you a straight answer as to what happened. So if that's what you're after then you'll probably be pretty disappointed at the end of the series.
The Leftovers is all about coping with loss and grief, and when you realize that most of life’s question go unawnsered it’s magnificent television.
I’m in the crowd that really wanted them to give some inkling, knew they wouldn’t, but still enjoyed the series greatly. So it’s not entirely prohibitive.
I'm not looking for straight answers, but I don't wish to watch another Lost. That show was a rat king. It was confusion for confusion's sake. Fuck that.
Anyway, I've made it onto season 2. As stated, I don't need answers. One of my favorite movies is Magnolia, which should tell you something. But I do expect that a good show would at least explain what motivates key characters. The Guilty Remnant and Kevin's dad? Or Wayne? It's a bit absurd that I still know next to nothing about their "reasons" despite being more than a third through the whole series.
It took me two restarts on S1 before I got into it (This is after reading the book btw)
Well, loving Magnolia tells me that you love steamy piles of dogshit. But for real, stick with it, the Leftovers is leaps and bounds better than Lost.