TMB's True Crime Thread

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  1. DuffandMuff

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    The interrogator at the end saying the two cousins got paid and got away with murder is unreal. Then he goes on to say he thinks the other brother should be in prison too. When the only thing linking him was the evidence that was planted, which resulted in the forensics guy serving two years in prison.

    The talent pool is so shallow in these small, shitty towns in Nebraska and Arkansas that you're almost destined to have a group of idiots running the entire criminal justice system.
     
  2. 941Gator

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    Exactly. In many states/counties, they won't allow the small local agency to handle a homicide.
     
  3. 941Gator

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    No, he is claiming that he thought with credit for time served and chance of parole that he would get out (I guess) however it was all negotiated, meaning he knew the Judge was going to tell him 30 more years.
     
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    When they went after the 2 WI kids and tried to force a link between them and the NE kids, I thought I might have been watching a mockumentary
     
  5. DuffandMuff

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    It’s scary the similarities you start to see between all of these false confessions.

    Typically a small town, uneducated or learning disabled person. Locked in a room for a marathon interrogation. Completely unaware they’re even suspects. So broken down that they finally cave and start to agree with the story the interrogators begin to lay out.

    I feel like I see it in every crime doc.
     
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  6. 941Gator

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    and then the final step is absolute denial of coercive tactics/wrong-doing after the case is settled. I guess you could argue that maybe they sincerely believe in their work, but usually it is just a front imo.



    Also, started "22 hours" pod last night, not bad..

    https://podcastone.com/22-hours-an-american-nightmare

    It was a case nightmares are made of. a D.C. power couple, their 10-year-old son and housekeeper held hostage for nearly 24 hours and murdered inside a burning D.C. mansion. WTOP examines the complicated trail of evidence that police say led to finding their killer and why they say he committed such a brutal crime.
     
  7. 941Gator

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    these new DNA stories are always great:

    Sacramento serial-rape suspect from early 1990s arrested after DNA match, officials say

    A suspected serial rapist who committed at least three violent crimes in Sacramento and Davis in the early 1990s has been arrested after local and federal investigators linked his DNA to the crimes.

    Mark Manteuffel, 59, a retired federal corrections officer, was arrested Friday outside his home in Decatur, Ga., 27 years after his first alleged rape in Sacramento, local officials said.


    Manteuffel, who is a former Sacramento State student and former part-time lecturer there, is believed to have brutally sexually assaulted three women here between 1992 and 1994, local officials said at a news conference held Monday afternoon at Sacramento police headquarters.

    Officials said their investigation remains open. They are asking for help from anyone who has further information about Manteuffel or crimes he may have committed. Manteuffel was in Georgia custody on Monday, authorities said. His extradition to California is expected in the coming days.

    Manteuffel “will be brought back (to Sacramento) to face a host of charges,” Sacramento County District Attorney Anne Marie Schubert said.

    The first victim, a 52-year-old Rosemont resident, was attacked in May, 1992 in her home by a man who had been there waiting for her to return. He assaulted her for three hours before leaving.

    The second victim was bound and sexually assaulted by a masked intruder in her East Sacramento home in March, 1994.


    In both cases, Manteuffel will be charged with torture with use of a knife, Sacramento County District Attorney Anne Marie Schubert said. Schubert announced seven charges in total, including four counts of multiple rapes while using a knife to cause great bodily injury; and a single count of sodomy with great bodily injury caused by a knife.


    The other assault took place in Davis in January, 1994. A 22-year-old college student was jogging to a local market to get dinner when she was grabbed by a masked man who used a stun gun and dragged her away to commit “monstrous crimes,” Yolo County District Attorney Jeff Reisig said.

    Reisig said he is still determining how many charges he will file, but said the main charges of kidnapping during the commission of a robbery carry a potential life sentence.

    The arrest is the third in 15 months by local law enforcement using DNA from genealogy companies.

    In April 2018, local and federal officials arrested Joseph DeAngelo, 72, outside his Citrus Heights home after matching his DNA with that found at numerous crimes committed by the notorious East Area Rapist in the Sacramento area and the Golden State Killer in Southern California. Those crimes occurred in the 1970s and 1980s.

    Local officials later last year used DNA evidence to arrest Roy Charles Waller, 59, and to charge him with 45 assaults allegedly committed by the NorCal Rapist between 1991 and 2006 in six local counties counties.

    Sacramento County DA Schubert heralded this arrest and those of DeAngelo and Waller as evidence that dogged investigation coupled with evolving DNA technology is making it harder for criminals to get away with violent crime.

    Schubert said local officials used the DNA evidence from the rapes 19 years ago to obtain the first DNA-based “John Doe” arrest warrant in the state, thus creating a placeholder charge just before the legal statute of limitations lapsed.

    Schubert said she and investigators were inspired by reading a story in The Sacramento Bee about a Wisconsin prosecutor who had done the same there using DNA evidence.

    With Monday’s announcement, the suspect in the first of those Sacramento “John Doe” cases finally had a name.

    “I am proud to say we have put a face to that DNA profile,” Schubert said. “A silent witness has spoken.”

    She declined to offer details about which relative’s DNA led to Manteuffel. FBI officials said they recently followed the suspect and collected his DNA from a restaurant. The victims have been notified, officials said, and are relieved and emotional.

    “Crimes like this alter the lives of victims and their families in incredible ways,” Yolo DA Reisig said. “These crimes also haunt communities, and this crime has haunted the community of Davis for 25 years.”

    Davis Police Chief Darren Pytel is among them. He was a young Davis officer who lived on the same greenbelted block where the violent attack happened and remembers how it changed the city’s notion of safety. But Pytel’s department had the evidence of the brutal 1994 attack. Pytel said the Davis Police Department keeps rape kit evidence for years, holding out hope for a lead and an arrest even after cases appear to have grown cold.

    That paid off again with Monday’s arrest.

    Reisig echoed Schubert’s statement that DNA technology is now catching up with criminals from decades ago.

    “The news today is that predators and monsters can’t hide forever any longer,” he said. “The clock is ticking on these criminals.”

    Sacramento State Chief of Police Mark Iwasa confirmed Monday that Manteuffel was a student at the school in the 1980s and worked as a part-time faculty member in the fall of 1993.

    Manteuffel later worked for the Federal Bureau of Prisons in Atlanta, Oklahoma City and Miami before retiring from his $120,000-a-year job in 2014, according to FederalPay.org.
     
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  8. 941Gator

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    Ayoola Ajayai was arrested for the murder of Utah student Mackenzie Lueck and this meme was posted about him 6 years ago on reddit:



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  9. Henry Blake

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    Good grief. What is it with the Sacramento area and serial rapists?
     
  10. 941Gator

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    dna case with a Seattle murder and the new dna method's first conviction:

    https://www.wired.com/story/man-found-guilty-in-a-murder-mystery-cracked-by-cousins-dna/
    MAN FOUND GUILTY IN A MURDER MYSTERY CRACKED BY COUSINS’ DNA

    THE WORD PIERCED a momentary hush that had settled over the packed courtroom, where a line of people stretched out into the hall. The word that the families of Jay Cook and Tanya Van Cuylenborg had been waiting for more than three decades to hear: “guilty.” After a day and a half of deliberations, a Snohomish County jury found William Earl Talbott II guilty on two counts of aggravated murder in the first degree for the deaths of the young Canadian couple. They disappeared during an overnight trip to Seattle on November 18, 1987—their bodies recovered in rural western Washington a few days later, each bearing the marks of the violent ends they met.

    The decision, delivered late Friday morning, is a momentous victory for a new kind of genetic detective work that builds on the spit kit results of genealogy-curious relatives.

    It cracked open the Snohomish County case when investigators worked with a private company to trace semen left at one of the crime scenes to Talbott through two cousins who had uploaded their own genetic information to a public database called GEDMatch. Such sites help people build family trees and trace their ancestral roots through shared DNA, a practice known as genetic genealogy. Recently, police departments and the FBI have begun using the method to dig up suspects. Genetic genealogy has already been used to advance dozens of cold cases since it very publicly resulted in the arrest of the suspected Golden State Killer last April. But until Talbott’s case went to trial at the beginning of this month, the technique had never been tested in court.

    The Talbott verdict is the first 12-person vote of confidence in genetic genealogy’s ability to not just put a name to a drop of blood or skin cells lifted from a fingerprint or a semen-soaked swab, but to help prosecutors prove that the person behind that name also committed the crime they’ve been accused of. It’s an outcome that could favorably impact other cases currently making their way to court in other states, even if just to bolster public opinion.


    But even more significantly, the image of Talbott gasping as the jury read out their verdict signals to law enforcement agencies all over the country that genetic genealogy is good for more than just generating leads and making arrests, it’s good for getting convictions too. And that has huge implications for both the future of crime-fighting and genetic privacy.


     
  11. 941Gator

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    Netflix Exhibit A

     
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    #213 941Gator, Jul 3, 2019
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    Episodes 14 and 15 of In the Dark have been added:

    https://www.apmreports.org/in-the-dark/season-two
     
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  15. 941Gator

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    Podcast: White Lies by NPR

    White Lies Is a True Crime Masterpiece

    White Lies is one of those shows that reminds you why you listen to podcasts. This is what great audio journalism sounds like. Brantley and Grace track down every possible lead, even going farther than the FBI agent who reopened the case in 2008. The hosts keep suspense alive throughout the series but not in a gimmicky way. Most impressive of all, they toggle back and forth between the past and the present without confusing the timeline. The story is intensely complicated, but what Brantley and Grace say is always clear.

    White Lies is also a story that is best told over audio. While listening, I imagined what it would be like to read this story as a print article. The reporting speaks for itself, and the details would still pack a tremendous punch on paper. But there is a deeper level of understanding that comes from hearing not just the words but the voices of people who have kept these secrets buried inside of them for over 50 years.

    On the podcast, you hear the long, empty pauses when the reporters ask who the murderers are. You hear the quaver of vocal chords as a source answers. You feel the effort of their denial. Sometimes, you hear their relief in letting go of a half a century of lying. It is a giant exhale.


     
  16. 941Gator

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    Want to quit your job and start a true crime podcast? Obscura's host did it.
    Justin Drown gets paid to talk about murder in his Valrico garage. And he's not the only one.

    VALRICO — It was a Monday afternoon in the Tampa suburbs, all cul-de-sacs and overturned tricycles baking in the sun. In the two-car garage of the three-bedroom house with the tree swing, there was talk of murder.

    Justin Drown, host of Obscura: A True Crime Podcast, keeps it cold as a morgue in there. The garage is a converted family room with a couch, a TV and scattered kids toys. It’s where Drown, 30, records and edits each episode of his show, looking back at an often grisly, real-life crime.

    Drown has recounted infamous cases such as the murder of Ennis Cosby, and Gary Ridgeway, the “Green River Killer,” but focuses mostly on the obscure. A recent episode told the tale of Gertrude Baniszewski, the “skeleton lady” who took in a teenager in 1960s Indianapolis before enlisting her own children and some neighborhood kids in the girl’s torture.

    Sitting on Drown’s desk was a microphone and an autopsy report for Iana Kasian, a lawyer and model scalped by her graphic novelist fiance (Episode 37, the West Hollywood Vampire). There was a book titled Profitable Podcasting and stickers featuring Obscura’s logo, a yawning skull with crime scene tape threaded through its teeth. Drown sends the stickers, and occasionally one of those autopsy reports, as thank-you gifts to the more than 500 fans signed up to donate $5 a month via Patreon, a crowd-funding site.

    Whatever Drown is doing seems to be working. Obscura had 45,000 downloads in the final week of May and, a year in, his audience keeps growing. The podcast earns him around $5,000 to $6,000 a month, partly from donations but mostly from traditional advertising. If things continue to snowball, Drown could have a bona fide hit on his hands.

    A year ago he was a dropout from nursing school, creatively unfulfilled, working as an overnight security guard at Port Tampa Bay. He’d sit alone in the dark guarding some desolate warehouse “where nobody ever came, but they were required to have a security guard there because it was in some contract or something.” He listened to true crime podcasts to pass the time.

    Now his email in-box is so flooded with messages from fans that he can’t respond to them all. And the side effects of constantly being exposed to depravity? The freedom and creativity outweigh that stuff, at least for now.

    Despite his grave vocal delivery on the show and a promotional photo in which his face is hidden in shadows, Drown does not seem to be a dark soul, maybe just a little serious. In person, he comes off as a warmhearted, thoughtful homebody, who gets joy from hanging out with his family, including a stepdaughter and 2-year-old step-grandson who live with them. He is fond of labeling himself with the hashtag #younggrandpa.

    He listens to jazz while he works. He watches live video games and movies with his wife, Rebecca, but not too many horror flicks.

    He consumes no true crime when he’s not working, but work is always waiting.

    Obscura is part of a vast and fast-growing constellation of true crime audio, ranging from prestige journalism by some of the nation’s top news organizations to homegrown fare from amateurs taking advantage of podcasting’s low barriers to entry.

    http://www.tampabay.com/arts-entert...-crime-podcast-obscuras-host-did-it-20190703/

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  17. 941Gator

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    spot on:

     
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  18. 941Gator

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    yep, the west memphis 3. Jerry Driver never gets enough attention on that case.

    Damien Echols Survived 18 Years On Death Row With The Help Of Magick
    Damien Echols was sentenced to death in 1994 for the infamous West Memphis murders of three young boys, but was freed in 2011.
    http://www.oxygen.com/video/share/3930949



    my post from page 1 about that case:

     
  19. 941Gator

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    Came to post this story..... DNA tech strikes (yet) again.
     
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  20. Henry Blake

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    Total nightmare fuel for anyone with a daughter. Glad they got him. From the Golden State thread, I listened to several other Casefile shows. One of them focused on global child porn rings. So disturbing. It's #115 Operation Cathedral.

    Casefile also has a companion podcast now that delves deeper into old shows. It's called From the Files.
     
  21. 941Gator

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    I believe it was racer or Spike 80DF that mentioned Culpable Podcast...

    https://culpablepodcast.com/

    A new investigative true crime podcast from Black Mountain Media and Tenderfoot TV, Culpable explores unsettled cases where those deserving of blame have somehow eluded justice.

    On February 26, 2014, Christian Andreacchio was found dead in the upstairs bathroom of his apartment from a single gunshot wound to the head. After a mere 45-minute investigation, local police ruled his death a suicide, despite substantial evidence that points to Christian’s death not only being a homicide, but premeditated murder. Host Dennis Cooper investigates and shares a compelling story about this suspicious death, the questions surrounding it, and a grieving family’s ongoing fight for justice.

    From the creators of Up and Vanished and To Live and Die in LA, this is Culpable.
     
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  22. racer

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    I’m current with Culpable. Pretty good so far. Lackluster production and storytelling made up for with the actual events.
     
  23. 941Gator

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    There just doesn't seem to be any credible evidence that it was a suicide if you throw everything out from the other 2 witnesses.
     
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    Agreed. Gun night seems fishy.
     
  25. 941Gator

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    Gunners
     
  26. Mix

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  27. 941Gator

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    interesting fact pattern..

    A pregnant Alabama woman was shot in the stomach. She just got indicted in the baby's death.

    Marshae Jones was five months pregnant when she was shot in the stomach outside of a Birmingham-area Dollar General last December, losing her child.

    Wednesday, a grand jury in Alabama indicted her on a charge of manslaughter in the unborn baby girl’s death, while the charge against the woman accused of pulling the trigger was dismissed, according to AL.com.

    According to police, Jones, 27, was shot after they said she started a fight with 23-year-old Ebony Jemison. Pleasant Grove police Lt. Danny Reid said investigators found Jones to be the aggressor.

    “The investigation showed that the only true victim in this was the unborn baby,’’ Reid told AL.com in December. “It was the mother of the child who initiated and continued the fight which resulted in the death of her own unborn baby.”
     
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    Guess the idiot streamed it on Insta or somewhere..
     
  31. 941Gator

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    HLN network always has decent shows:


    Death Row Stories




    Kids Behind Bars: Life or Parole

     
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    Man Caught With $34,000 Worth Of Cocaine Under His Toupee
    July 16, 2019 - 2:58 pm by VIBE

    Police have dubbed the incident "Operation Toupee"
    A Colombian man thought outside of the box when he taped $34,000 worth of cocaine to his head and hid it under his wig. The man, who authorities have not yet identified, almost pulled a fast one until authorities at Barcelona Internation Airport noticed something...off.

    Dubbed "Operation Toupee." officers reportedly found "a perfectly sealed package taped to his head” because the hairpiece was "disproportionate size.”

    https://www.vibe.com/2019/07/colombian-man-cocaine-under-his-toupe

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  33. 941Gator

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    Thought you guys would enjoy this, especially those in FL #Florida State Seminoles a fucking police undercover sting for a girl selling weed brownies.

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  35. stangd

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    Big things going on in 941 man....lol.
     
  36. PeterGriffin

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    That whole police report is null and void because there is no such place as Stake and Shake. Shoddy detective work.
     
  37. xec

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    Vampire themed nightclub.
     
  38. Nole96SC

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    Also am I reading it right that they blacked out her name 5 times but left it in once?
     
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    you know damn well there is enough crime for them to not be wasting their time with weed brownies. that should apply to every city NoleNBlue
     
  40. NoleNBlue

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    Most personal use amounts aren’t being prosecuted any more as of July 1
     
  41. 941Gator

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    and the felony grand theft amount increased ($750?).
     
  42. NoleNBlue

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    Among a few others, yeah. Was hoping the theft threshold would go to 1200 but 750 is a start
     
  43. 941Gator

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    Hard to imagine stealing $1,199 of shit being a misdemeanor, but I’m sure we will see the day.
     
  44. NoleNBlue

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    The driving factor behind the change was cell phones. One stolen phone is a felony based off that threshold.
     
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    It’s Sarasota, the sheriff is just keeping the old retired people happy by throwing things like this in the news every now and then. Keep them happy and you get re-elected. I agree though, it’s a waste of time unless they are using this as a base for a bigger investigation.
     
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    "tell us where you got the brownie mix from?!?!"

    "i keep telling you, publix."
     
  47. PeterGriffin

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    "We've been focusing on the small time dealers, but I have a feeling this goes all the way to the top"
     
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    https://gimletmedia.com/shows/the-clearing

    ‘The Clearing’ Podcast Tells Story of Serial Killer — With Help From His Daughter

    In ‘The Clearing,’ journalist Josh Dean teams up with the daughter of serial killer Edward Edwards to try to find out what other crimes he may have committed

    If there’s anything true crime fans love more than stories about unsolved murders and serial killers, it’s speculating wildly about serial killers and unsolved murders. Playing armchair sleuth has become something of a sport in itself, and entire podcasts are devoted to little more than gossamer theories about who may have been behind which crimes. It’s gotten to the point that there are even true crime parody podcasts that mock the genre, featuring hosts with wildly irrational or unfounded conspiracy theories sandwiched between inappropriately timed commercials for smart toothbrushes and boxed mattresses.
     
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    for those that don't like podcast or articles, here are some True Crime Youtube Channels