You're excusing this? Cops and their friends/family should be treated just as I would if they are pulled over. There should be no preferential treatment for anyone. Period. Nobody should above any law. Anything less in inexcusable.
Fraternal Order of Police, that's what the stickers were in Alabama. I couldn't remember the name of them.
Yeah, I've got a New Jersey card. I met a NJ statey a couple of years ago at an awards banquet in Atlanta and we drank for a few hours at the bar. He had 38 years in with NJ and we hung out at the Marriott bar two nights and had a blast. I had never heard of the cards, but he signed it and said that basically it was good for getting off for almost any misdemeanor.
That's not relevant. If I have, it was on my own merit or the cop being in a good mood. It wasn't bc I had a card showing I was friends of the program.
And the officer could still write them even if they have a courtesy card, just like they could write another LEO.
But they don't bc they'd be hated by the rest of the gang. Again, excusing officers letting people break the law bc of who they know is inexcusable. You're making yourself look like a fool by defending it.
You look like a fool by pretending human nature doesn’t exist. People aren’t robots. Say your friend is a deputy and you get pulled over for rolling a stop sign. He walks up and realizes its you, do you expect him to say, “oh sorry, dblplay1212, didn’t realize that was you. Well here is an $80 ticket for rolling that stop sign.” If you expect your friend to write you a ticket there, then you must know the most by the book people alive. I’m sorry to say, most humans (cops are humans) are not that straight edge.
Would I think my friend (Deputy A) would let me go? Yes. I'd feel lucky that it was my friend that pulled me over. That's human nature. Would I expect Deputy B to let me go bc I said I knew Deputy A, who Deputy B doesn't even know? Hell no. That's collusion on a grand level to let certain people break the law. That's beyond absurd. Being friends/family with a cop doesn't give someone the right to break the law. Bottom line, being a cop or knowing a cop should not afford anyone certain privileges that the common man doesn't get. They aren't above the law. Actually, apparently they are. I'm just not ok with that.
That's one degree of separation though, and yeah I would think the cop would let his buddy off with a warning. What if a cop pulls someone over for whatever reason, and he has no idea who that person is? Should that person be able to say "my brother/father/husband/sister is a cop, so I should be free to go"? Reminds me of some drunk ass chick who smashed into two parked cars with her SUV, and started cursing at all the bystanders and the people whose car was hit. Twenty minutes later, after the police had arrived, some plainclothes dude shows up and whisks her away into his car and they drive away. The police didn't press charges because the girl's dad was a local police officer. Fuck nepotism.
If "friends of the program" didn't exist, dbl would have really hated the last ten or so years of Alabama football. Amirite #Alabama Crimson Tide? The nerve of him to want to destroy the cop version of the REC...
was given one of these for xmas and had no clue they existed supposedly they work out of state as well or thats what I was told
I may be overreacting here, but of all the things in this thread, I think this is the one that irks me the most. With the shootings, at least it can be blamed one one cop fucking up. With this, this is an entire police dept saying they and their friends are above the law. That's infuriating to me.
To answer your first scenario, that happens all the time and people don’t get out of the ticket. It usually depends on the severity of the infraction. It also depends on the person. A deputy pulls over a woman for speeding and it’s a co workers wife, I’d assume he lets her off with a warning. A deputy pulls over a guy for hit and run and the guy claims his cousin is a deputy, I wouldn’t expect the same result. Now your second example, that is absurd. I’m sure there are more examples of the especially with small PDs.
It’s not like it’s getting them out of something big. It’s getting a little leniency for being 10-15 over. It’s not a “get out of Jail free” pass. Pull your panties out if their wad. It’s still up for officer discretion I’m sure. As are all tickets. They’re not walking out of a bank with all the loot, showing the card, and walking away.
No, that a cop giving me a warning based on the situation, not bc of who I knew. The fact that you can't see the difference in that and a cop letting someone go that they'd normally ticket/arrest bc that person is a friend of the program.
I don't care how major or minor the offense is. If people are getting treated differently bc of who they know, I'm not ok with that.
Why am I not surprised that the same few that run to this thread to defend the cop every time a cop kills someone are the same people ok with cops putting themselves and their friends/family above the law?
dblplay1212 won’t stand for the police not enforcing every law on the books. Until the next argument pops up where he will attack the police for arresting someone for a law he finds irrelevant.
You got a warning bc of the situation, something you said, or the cop was in a good mood... not bc of who you know. That's the difference. It's not about letting someone go with a warning, it's WHY they let them go with a warning.
Nonetheless, any type of card is ridiculous. Dbl isn’t arguing that police should be fired for giving a warning for speeding to a family member. He is arguing that a system in place (cards) to encourage this behavior is silly. I’m not going to go down this rabbit hole, but gtfo if you don’t think the good ol’ boy system isn’t in every county in the country. Cops show up for a domestic, it’s a prosecutor, no arrest made. So on and so forth. They don’t need cards to be crooked, let them take the risk of a non-arrest or no ticket on their own. At least then they can’t blame the magical card was shown.
it's a slippery slope. nolenblue gives every hooters girl a card, those bitches haven't got a DUI in years.
More than anything, it's the principle behind it. The idea that anyone should get out of an illegal act bc of who they know should infuriate anyone.
https://www.ebay.com/sch/i.html?_fr...313&_nkw=pba+card&_sacat=0&afsrc=1&rmvSB=true You can find 2018 PBA cards as well as gold "family" cards.
Seems like you are mad enough for everybody. Me? I'm still gonna send 20$ to the police benevolent fund for my get out of a ticket free sticker. Do you need us to set up a GoFundMe to get you into the club?
I could afford one. There's plenty of poor people that can't though and I don't feel that they should be treated differently than people with money.
Yeah, the police usually don't get a dime from those. Just $$$ for whichever huckster is cold calling people to sell them.
Interesting that Can I Spliff it is sounding like a republican with this post. complaining about pensions, disability and government spending smh
Will be interesting to see how that plays out, wonder if he’ll argue that it wasn’t a lawful order or that it was in jest and then those deputies fry for acting on an unlawful order. Then he’ll get off with some minor reprimand while they go to jail.