car buying thread (look at me)

Discussion in 'The Mainboard' started by sleazy, Jan 30, 2011.

  1. It'sAlwaysSunnyInAthens

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    Because I load my kids in and out of the car 2 or 3 times a day and I think it would be way easier with the sliding doors. I have a bunch of nieces and nephews in the area that I'm close enough with to grab at the spur of the moment. Probably going with a third row either way.

    I have an accord hybrid now that I love but it would be way nice to have something bigger. Teluride/Sorento/Palisade or carnival is kind of where I'm at.

    Edit: also, not a driving enthusiast by any means. I look for technology and comfort in a car so minivan is probably my wheel house lol.
     
  2. It'sAlwaysSunnyInAthens

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    Then there are days when I say compromise and buy and Tucson or the new CRV and have a tiny payment.
     
  3. danny2430

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    Had the car a month, and here and my comments so far:
    - Ride is great, interior is superb for the price point. You have moments where you feel like you are in a legitimate luxury vehicle
    - Killer features (Caligraphy version) include
    1) electric closing and reclining third row (has to be one of the only in its class)
    2) favorite button that you can set to do what you choose, we picked quiet mode (where it turns off the speakers to the back rows but leaves on in the front)
    3)blind side cameras that pop up on your dash when turning
    - Gas tank seems somewhat small for the size of the vehicle (like 18 gallons?)
    - Would have liked folding side mirrors, seems kinda odd that it doesn’t have it

    Overall, feels like we made a good choice and definitely think the rave reviews you see on all the online outlets are warranted
     
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  4. Love Tractor

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    The relief I had with sliding doors when my kids were younger cannot be overstated. Got to the point where I literally refused to take them anywhere in anything other than the van simply so I didn’t have to worry about the inevitable damage to any car I parked next to when they flung the doors open with the strength of Thor into everything within range.
     
  5. Old_Gregg

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    Leasing a Tahoe or Yukon would not be a great financial decision right now. Based on the numbers on leasehackr, you will be looking at $800-900 a month on a Tahoe with at least $4,000 due at signing. On Yukons, it is over $1,000 a month with $4,000 plus due at signing. Those are all 39 month 10,000 mile a year leases so you would pay over $40,000 to lease one for three years. And there is basically no representation for the Deep South on leasehackr other than South Florida for any makes. So you would most likely be doing a good bit of haggling to get those type of deals or you would have to buy from someone in California or the northeast.
     
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  6. The Blackfish

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    Honestly Snakes your oldest is old enough to just climb over the mid center seat, just stick with the Pilot.
     
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  7. Snakes

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    yikes no thanks. i have always been anti-lease just wanted to make sure my thinking was correct given this current fucked up market.
     
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  8. Snakes

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    we are considering just holding on until the car market gets more normalized. we just like having the trunk space for strollers,bikes etc that you don't have when the seats are up. And honestly I don't expect the market to normalize anytime in the next few years.
     
  9. Det. Frank Bullitt

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    The market will never be the same, that's for sure, GM's CEO said they would never return to carrying the same pre-pandemic inventory levels. The pandemic effects (e.g. chip shortage, factory shutdowns, labor issues) will fade but we don't know what "normalize" will even mean.

    Doesn't your Pilot have a non-removable 3rd row? At the moment assuming no mechanical issues, you're in a great position with a fantastic, late model car that should cover your butt and your family in general for the next 2-4 years until child 3 starts needing extra space.

    Lastly, from a value perspective, I'd say the Yukon is a cross between an Escalade and a Tahoe. If budget is a factor, apart from some edge case, just go Tahoe and save $3-8k depending on the exact vehicle you are looking for. I've shared previously, I shopped 21/22s for both brands and have used both before. Don't buy a 21 of either brand, either.
     
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  10. It'sAlwaysSunnyInAthens

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    Saw an article saying Hyundai/Kia/mazda sales were up in February and everyone else was down. F150 sales are down 30%. Not sure it that's because of lack of inventory or lack of interest. Would be nice if there were deals out there again at some point.
     
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  11. dukebuckeye

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    Hi.

    I'm looking to get rid of my 2016 Infiniti QX80 for a 2019-2020 Mercedes GL550. Anyone familiar with that vehicle?
     
  12. C Yank

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    bought this bad boy today, 2021 Mercedes cla 35 amg
     
  13. ramszoolander

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    Are you leasing? Generally, the wisdom with the German cars nowadays is to lease. I have an older M-B wagon, but bought it expecting to work on it myself. Otherwise, would be pretty expensive.

    Also: do you have kids/family that you need the big one? Likewise on powerplant? Pretty much anything Merc sells here has plenty of power. I think the GLE would probably be better unless you just have to have the V8. And if that's the case, just drop the money and get a GLE 63 AMG.

    or even better an E63
     
  14. ramszoolander

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    How's the backseat room? I don't care for the "coupe" style at all, but if they offered this in a hatchback, I'd be all over it. The color is great, too!
     
  15. C Yank

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    It’s a little tight, I’d say anybody over 6’2 likely wouldn’t enjoy the ride back there.
     
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  16. lfriend

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    Truck prices are fucking insane.
     
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  17. danny2430

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    Buddy bought a 2018 F150 Lariat two years ago with about 5k miles on it for $42.5

    Had put like 20k miles on it since. Totaled it earlier this year (he was okay and ruled other driver’s fault).

    Insurance offered him $46k value on the car. He took the offer but understands he will have to pocket the cash and drive his other car for months if not years because of the insane market right now.
     
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  18. HowdyHorns

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    Going to get worse with what is going on in Ukraine.
     
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  19. buy_dont_lease

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    I’m not an industry expert and don’t claim to be (username notwithstanding), but I don’t see any reason to think prices will come down.

    By the time all the forces legitimately driving prices up—inflation, supply chain disruptions causing scarcity and/or more expensive sourcing, the war in Ukraine which will effect raw materials for semiconductors, global price of oil, industry move to EV/tech heavy cars—we will have been living in this environment for years. As other posters have mentioned, auto manufactures will be producing fewer vehicles to more closely meet (and not exceed) demand. Thus they will have to make more money per vehicle to make up their shortfall. People will become accustomed to ordering a car, waiting six months, and paying twice as much for a comparable vehicle (absent new tech) that they would have paid 5 years ago. None of this factors in opportunism on behalf of manufactures and dealers (just the worst) who are gouging people right now.

    So I’m not saying there isn’t wisdom in waiting until the conditions are right for you to make a purchase, but I think prices “normalizing” is a fantasy. Only thing that could challenge that is if the manufacturers realize that they have priced too many people out of vehicles and need to offer more budget friendly options; but those will not come with all the features people are going to come to expect out of cars in the next few years.

    I have been all over the place the last 18 months w/r/t our next vehicle purchase (thankfully got a great deal on my wife’s vehicle in January 2021 before things got out of control). I had actually planned to make a purchase this month, but I’ve basically arrived at a PHEV/EV SUV and I’m going to be saving accordingly over the next year because it’s going to cost about $10k+ more than I was preparing to spend had I bought something right now.
     
  20. Bricktop the white

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    The manufacturers have long wanted to go to a direct order model and the pandemic and chip shortage have massively sped up the process. Dealers are going to carry way less stock and focus on ordering from the factory at msrp.

    The internet had largely already killed haggling on car prices, this was just the final jail in the coffin
     
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  21. OhioHoo

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    was looking at sale prices for Kia Telluride, VW Atlas, and Honda Pilot on Truecar in our area. Atlas was selling like a couple of bucks over MSRP, Pilot was around 4% over MSRP. Telluride 34% over MSRP and they didn’t have any on the lot and 40% of the ones coming in the next month are already sold.
     
  22. ramszoolander

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    For that money, go buy a 2 year old MB GL and just get a good service agreement. Holy crap.
     
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  23. VASooner

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    Was looking at pretty much the exact same vehicles and ended up with a Volvo XC90 for a multitude of reasons. If you haven't already, definitely check them out.
     
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  24. Bricktop the white

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    Is your area a giant ranch with unpaved roads?

    If not, i am going to have a screeching melty about why you should just buy a car or minivan.
     
  25. buckwild

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    This was over a year ago...so things have changed to some degree...but, we contacted a bunch of KIA dealerships when we were shopping for our Telluride and I'd say 75% were charging over MSRP, but there was 25% that were charging straight MSRP. So, there could be some big differences to the level that they charge over now.
     
  26. OhioHoo

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    We ended up getting a pilot for a couple bucks over MSRP, they gave us 3k more in cash than any of the other places would for our lemon of a Sorento. Only kicker was the car didn’t arrive as expected on Friday so they gave us new CRV as a loaner and now my wife wants a CRV.
     
  27. NDJOECA

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    The new Rivian trucks look like a high end Honda Ridgeline, not a fan.
     
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  28. It'sAlwaysSunnyInAthens

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    My oddesey order is taking forever. Saw a carnival at a place in Atlanta so I called in it.. 8k over msrp. No thanks.
     
  29. It'sAlwaysSunnyInAthens

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    GMC offering zero percent on Yukons.
     
  30. NP13

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    anybody know what the hell I'm supposed to do to get the title after paying off my car? i'm in NC.
     
  31. Carl Brutananadilewski

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    varies state by state but in NJ the car financing company eventually mails it to you like two months later
     
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  32. OhioHoo

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    yeah in Maryland the financing company sends the title and a letter that you have to take to the dmv and they’ll do a clean copy showing no lien holders.
     
  33. ramszoolander

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    In Methssouri, owner holds the title even if there's a lien. I thought that was pretty weird.
     
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  34. Tommy Jefferson

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    The BFF is looking at a 2022 Audi Q5. In todays market, is there leverage to negotiate anything below MSRP? I’m thinking destination fees, rubber floor mats, extra key fob (you only get one), anything?
     
  35. tjosu

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    Any hybrid owners in here? Since we’re replacing the wife’s car we’ve thought we should look into them, so just curious how other first time owners have liked them
     
  36. danny2430

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    You might have some shot in the upper luxury market tiers where there is actual inventory, but for the heavy majority of the time it’s looking like the only way to get a deal at msrp is by pre-ordering a car either in transit or due to be built
     
  37. It'sAlwaysSunnyInAthens

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    Have had a hybrid accord for 3 years and love it. Can't think of any downside to it. My next vehicle will be a hybrid suv more than likely.
     
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  38. CUgator

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    Going to be replacing my 10 year old XC90 soon, so have just started to look into a new SUV. Contacted 3 Chevy dealers about a Tahoe, and all 3 wanted $9-$10k over MSRP regardless of trim.

    :chrispaulnoooo:

    Scratch that off the list.
     
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  39. VASooner

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    Team Volvo here. Another XC90 not in the cards?

    Planning on OSD of a 2023 XC90 T8 R-Design next Summer
     
  40. infected donkey

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    About to buy a ‘89 camry with 110k miles for $2000
     
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  41. VASooner

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    $2K? Must be that amazing brown paint color. Shit slaps.
     
  42. infected donkey

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  43. CUgator

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    If I had 2 kids I’d get another XC90. With 3 I think I’m gonna need the extra room.
     
  44. VASooner

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    Makes complete sense. Even with one kid and a giant ass dog it feels cramped sometimes.
     
  45. ramszoolander

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    AR car? Hard to believe it is that mileage. You'll be stuck with that thing for life...will never die.
     
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  46. infected donkey

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    Yea, guy I know bought off a great grandma who only drove it to church. Needs new cv’s.
     
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  47. lazy bum

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    I mean, it’s a recurring theme in this thread I think, but with more than 3 swallow the pride and get the minivan. I know there will be one in our two car “fleet” for the next 10-15 years. A suburban could compete if you want to pay that much and drive a boat.
     
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  48. CUgator

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    We've got one already.
     
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  49. steamengine

    steamengine I don’t want to press one for English!
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    Bought a new car today. Sounds like I might get it in two months if I’m lucky. Salesman blamed the war.
     
  50. ramszoolander

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    Then buy a Mercedes wagon... :)
     
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