Ketogenic [Keto] Eating Thread

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  1. Room 15

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    typo right?
     
  2. joe-

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    yeah that’s been happening to me a lot lately
     
  3. WillySaliba

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    I invite you all to upgrade you salt cunt game as well. Even if you don’t like to cook and keep that process simple. Get some Maldon sea salt flakes and a kosher salt as well. You’ll enjoy and it’s good.
     
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    Ok, how do I dial it back or keep my ketosis where it is?

    Hard to believe I need to think about this already but... I started blood testing my ketone levels on the 8th. I've re-tested every other day since, at roughly the same time each day I test. On the 8th my level was 0.8. Since then my levels, in order, went 1.3, 1.6, and then 2.5 tonight. From every place I've researched, every single source says the same thing. That you want to maintain "full ketosis" between 1.5 and 3.0. Anything above 3.0 doesn't help and in the long term can have adverse effects.

    Therefore, what are the best ways to essentially maintain where I'm at and not go deeper into ketosis?
     
  5. DirtBall

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    Are you diabetic? If not you’re fine. Just drink a few more glasses of water a day.
     
  6. Whammy

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    Same. 6-8 is almost assuredly water but hey let’s get it
     
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    No I'm not. I still don't want to live day-to-day over 3.0 based on what I've read.
     
  8. joe-

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    I don’t think you need to test that much. Just do it weekly. You’re bound to fluctuate based on your daily fat intake so just stop worrying about it
     
  9. DirtBall

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    What have you read?
     
  10. Odin

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    Your body will eventually adjust and produce less
     
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  11. 1

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    Basically every source you get by Googling "blood ketone levels for keto diet"
     
  12. Room 15

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    Ketoacidosis doesn’t happen until like 16 but more water would help.
     
  13. Squints

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    As long as you're in ketosis, period, you're good. I think worrying about the range is probably detrimental, but to each their own.
     
  14. DirtBall

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    Ketoacidosis won’t happen in a non diabetic. Generally it’s only Type 1 diabetics. Ketosis is a 3 day to week long process where the body slowly builds up ketone levels. Type 1 diabetics with poorly managed insulin levels can trigger double that process in half a day. Big difference. A non diabetic human’s ketone level will self regulate to about 7-10mmol/L max.

    However, with prolonged fasting/starvation (~5 days), the rate of ketone body production reaches levels of ~1–2 mmol/min (or 140–280 g/24 h) [23, 24], corresponding to a plasma concentration of ~7–10 mmol/L. Beyond 5 days without food, plasma ketone body concentrations plateau and rarely exceed ~10 mmol/L [22]. This upper limit of ketonemia has been suggested to be the result of an inherent feedback mechanism by which ketone bodies inhibit their own production via exerting an insulinotropic [2527] and anti-lipolytic effect [28] (for a review on this topic, see Balasse and Féry [22] and Balasse [29])

    There’s a feedback mechanism that limits non diabetics ketone amount. Some have suggested high ketones can damage the liver (thanks to dr Oz nonscience) but most studies show opposite and the same goes for the kidneys. The only thing I can think of off the top of my head to be worried about excessive ketones is there is pretty solid data at high levels your muscles don’t absorb the energy as effectively then they do at lower levels. Luckily, none of us (sorry message board tough guys) are world class athletes so that shouldn’t be a concern.
     
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  15. Festus McBadass

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    Took a few days off from the gym to let my body get adjusted to keto. Went back today for the first time since I started last Thursday. Holy shit that sucked. Had no energy at all.
     
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  16. Daniel Ocean

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  17. joe-

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    It took about a week and a half for me
     
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  18. DirtBall

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    Classic Keto day. Looked at the clock, it’s 9:30. What did I eat today? 10 sautéed asparagus spears? Is that it? Guess that’s it.
     
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  19. slogan119

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    I think I’m doing something wrong because I’m within my macros but always hungry
     
  20. HuskerInMiami

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    thats my struggle. I forced myself to eat 8oz of steak for lunch. Had 4 pieces of bacon for dinner. I’m just not hungry.
     
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  21. ARSENAL

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    What’s your calorie deficit look like?
     
  22. joe-

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    Yeah I’m still hungry quite a bit too. My metabolism is crazy high though
     
  23. DirtBall

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    How long into ketosis are you? A lot of people say they don’t stop the sugar cravings and hunger pains till their 3rd week of ketosis, so potentially week 4 of the diet. Just add more fatty foods till then to feel fuller.
     
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  24. Festus McBadass

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    I haven’t felt hungry at all the last couple of days. Have to force myself to eat because I know I need to.
     
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  25. HuskerInMiami

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    We get it already. You’re 8% body fat and a freak athlete.

    Please give more nutritional tips and less bragging about how ripped you are.
     
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  26. joe-

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    I didn’t say how ripped I am but if that thought helps you have sweet dreams tonight then I’m happy to be here for you
     
  27. Daniel Ocean

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    It will help to tell myself all ripped dudes are gay
     
  28. 941Gator

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    I literally had bread with every meal prior to this.
    And every snack in my house is carb loaded.
     
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  29. joe-

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    so I made a bit of a mistake and used those cheese folios as taco shells

    it turns out that when you put hot food on a thin layer of cheese a hole will melt and the food will collapse upon itself and fall all over you
     
  30. * J Y *

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    Just wait until you try to use the Swiss ones :awesomeface:
     
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  31. Futureman

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    The only thing heavy in carbs I miss is beer. I legit eat like 8 carbs a day on the Keto diet. It’s too easy at this point. I lost 4% of my body weight last week.
     
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  32. Daniel Ocean

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    Yeah I’d love a beer right now.
     
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  33. Festus McBadass

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    Michelob Ultra

    just kidding. That’s not beer
     
  34. 941Gator

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    For those on the run, Wendy’s has good salad options.
     
  35. 1

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    Food wise the only thing I really miss is pizza. That will definitely be my "cheat" food whenever that happens down the road.
     
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  36. Futureman

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    Bought a few cauliflower pizza crusts. Rao’s pizza sauce is like 3 carbs to cover the entire pizza. Then load it up with cheese and deli meats and baby you got a meat lovers low carb stew a going
     
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  37. Daniel Ocean

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    The portobello mushroom ones I make are a good substitute if you like mushroom and pepperoni pizza.
     
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  38. ARSENAL

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    Ed Sheeran lost 50lb just from switching to liquor from beer. That little ginger cunt was onto something.
     
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  39. Weedlord420

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    I’m not keto because I love fruit, but I have cut bread out a lot and treat it as a treat. Or, if I eat it for a meal, it’s the primary source of calories for that meal - not added on to all the other shit.
     
  40. slogan119

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    My MFP settings are for a 2lb/week loss.

    OK, that helps - I’m getting close to that timeline. Going into week 3 now.
     
  41. * J Y *

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    I’m convinced I should be drinking ketoade. Anyone make it in here? I just need salt, lite salt, and mio?
     
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  42. joe-

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    just eat more salt. Get pedialyte if you need it
     
  43. leroi

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    What sort of alcohol do y'all drink, and how much / how frequently?

    I totally eliminated beer, have been drinking pinot gris, and wondering if i need to abandon wine as well and switch to something like gin and tonic.
     
  44. joe-

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    **dont drink tonic**

    I drink like once every couple of weeks, but my desire to drink has pretty much gone away since going keto. Your tolerance drops off and the hangovers are worse. Typically I drink gin and soda
     
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  45. leroi

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    32g of sugar per 12 oz, yeah, i had no idea tonic water had that much sugar. it's not even good.

    idk, i guess i'll have to experiment. maybe bourbon and water is the best option, maybe i'll learn to like it.
     
  46. devine

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    Diet tonic or club soda
     
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  47. jrmy

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    My alcohol of choice now is no alcohol. 0 net carbs.
     
  48. joe-

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    tonic is gross. You could do vodka/gin/whiskey and soda with a dash of bitters. Bitters usually add about 1 carb, but can help with taste. I had a gin/soda with lavender bitters the other day and it was decent
     
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  49. Room 15

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    #lifehack
     
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  50. Futureman

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    Vodka, Topo Chico, Mio Energy Tropical Fusion #lifehack

    Or if I have some carbs to spare a few Michelob Ultras and a bourbon or two
     
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