Malazan Book of the Fallen (Malazan Universe)

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  1. The Blackfish

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    No. You learn more about Burn in the prequel trilogies though so I may be biased. But I don’t recall being disappointed. What reveal are you discussing and want disappointed you?
     
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  2. billdozer

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    Some discussion here, but still not clear to me either
    https://www.tor.com/2014/04/16/malazan-reread-of-the-fallen-dust-of-dreams-chapter-eighteen/
     
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  3. RonBurgundy

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    The picture of Burn in my head was just completely different, wasn’t expecting her to be /species/race that she was. I also guess I stupidly associated her with being “good” since the crippled god is “bad” and they seem to be in opposition, but that’s just lazy, dumb thinking by me given how all the gods minus Mael act once actually present in the story.

    She’s just really shitty and I guess I expected her to be some grand, benevolent deity
     
  4. billdozer

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    I don't really remember Burn doing anything in the main series. Other than just being there at the end of Memories of Ice.
     
  5. The Blackfish

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    Sleeping
     
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  6. billdozer

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    I meant other than that. Something that would make me think she was shitty.
     
  7. RonBurgundy

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    Well that was a pretty dope entrance
     
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  8. RonBurgundy

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    Draconus and Ublala Pung as bff’s? Yes please.

    Also the fact that he can just randomly add characters like the new female Atri-Ceda in the end of the 9th book and make her a valuable character to help move plots forward is just awesome writing skills.

    Also, was not expecting the 3 Dal Honese women to be the main characters to explain the entire Malazan/Tavore plot thread to us. That was also an amazing use of minor characters.
     
  9. RonBurgundy

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    Finished.

    Not as good as most of the other books in the series, too many loose ends and we didn't get the convergence of all the parties yet. I understand it's because it's not technically a stand alone book, more comments in the spoiler. But those 2 battles. Good lord, those were excellent.

    a lot more thoughts about this book as a whole:

    So, I get that this isn't a full "book" by itself, merely a halftime until the Cripple God book finishes all the plot lines.

    However, I was a little disappointed that the "big bad guys" really didn't even come in the book until 92% of the book. Like, We saw the word Nah'ruk only once in the entire book when the K'Chain Che'Malle Destriant and her guardians were fleeing from an unnamed adversary, and then again once the 14 Jaghut came out to battle with them.

    Suddenly they randomly pop out of a warren and destroy the Bonehunters? A little disappointing, if you ask me. He foreshadowed something terrible was going to happen the farther east they went, but he kept foreshadowing a betrayal and kept intimating that the Bolkando/Perish were in danger as well, and yet the warren and Nah'ruk didn't even affect them at all.

    Maybe book 10 will solve some of Book 9's problems, but I thought this was one of the weaker overall books in the series. I gave it a 7/10. Once I know how Book 10 ends, I'll probably revise the score as I'm sure it will fix some of the book's issues, and clear up some of my misunderstandings about what's going on.

    Also, I'll be REALLY disappointed if that's how Icarium's story ends. Based on that ending, if he's not in Book 10, I'll be pretty upset.
     
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  10. RonBurgundy

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    On to The Crippled God!
     
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  11. Irush

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    Pores vs Kindly is the greatest rivalry story ever told
     
  12. Irush

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    Alright Tool, it’s tike to swing your nuts on the table and show these barbarians what you can do
     
  13. Irush

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    God damn it
     
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  14. Irush

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    Oh man Tool is about to unleash on half a continent

    Inject this right into my veins
     
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  15. Irush

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    I still have no idea wtf is going on with this Icarium/Tarlack shit

    Didnt Tarlack get his head caved in by debris at the end of Reaper’s?
     
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  16. Irush

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    WHAT THE FUCK

    Draconus?

    How
     
  17. Irush

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    Ok I forgot about Caladan destroying that thing yeah
     
  18. RonBurgundy

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    Wanted to reply “yeah that minor little detail” but in the course of 10 1200 page books as fucking complicated and convoluted as this series is, I miss and forget stuff all the time. I didn’t even realize 2 characters were Elder gods at one point.
     
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  19. The Blackfish

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    The drunks?
     
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  20. RonBurgundy

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    Yep
     
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  21. RonBurgundy

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    I’m 50 pages into Crippled God. I feel like Erikson is gonna have to either start wrapping up a billion plot threads or start murdering off everyone, either way I’m game.
     
  22. The Blackfish

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    There are threads that will be left hanging. Remember this is just one series that takes place in the universe. Some threads will be continued in Esselmont's Novels of the Malazan Empire and in future Erikson books. He has begun work on a new trilogy and has published 2/3 books on a prequel trilogy.

    Hell, they killed off a very powerful player already in one of Esselmont's books, so obviously everything isn't going to occur within the 10 book Book of the Fallen.
     
  23. Irush

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    Oh no it’s never going to end is it
     
  24. The Blackfish

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    Well golly I hope not!
     
  25. Irush

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    I’ll say this if anything happens to
    Fiddler
    I will stop reading at that point and leave this unfinished
     
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  26. The Blackfish

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    Then you’ll miss the best part!

    :awesomeface:
     
  27. Irush

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    Hood’s frantic balls on fire
     
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  28. Irush

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    I feel like all these little parts of members of the Bonehunters having doubts and getting all nostalgic is a set up for them getting fucking massacred and I am scared
     
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  29. Irush

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    70 pages left in dreams

    Am scared
     
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  30. billdozer

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    [​IMG]
     
  31. Irush

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    I feel like The Crippled God is just going to be a 1200 page battle scene at this point
     
  32. RonBurgundy

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    150 pages in

    Narrator’s voice: it’s not.
     
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  33. The Blackfish

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    Over 10000 pages of Erikson read, you should know better than to assume it’s all action. But there is a lot.
     
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  34. RonBurgundy

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    Draconus is fucking badass
    180 pages in or so
    he’s the fucking smoke monster from Lost!

    Also JADE FUCKING GIANTS? Those are definitely otataral right? I think we know that by now.
     
  35. Irush

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    Oh no

    No no no noooooo
     
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  36. RonBurgundy

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    Lightning bolt lizards?
     
  37. Irush

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    Who the fuck is Ruthan Gudd
     
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  38. Irush

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    That, soldiers, was Quick Ben


    FUCK
     
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  39. Irush

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    Never thought I’d say it but I miss Tayschrenn
     
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  40. Irush

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    WHERE DID THESE ASSHOLES EVEN COME FROM
     
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  41. Irush

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    This is killing me
     
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  42. billdozer

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    Blood of the gods, what manner of soldiers are you?
     
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  43. Irush

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    Literally just read that line

    Fuck this is so good this series is so good
     
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  44. Irush

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    Holy shit I still have another chapter to go

    I’m sweating
     
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  45. Irush

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    Well

    That was...something
     
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  46. Irush

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    Guess I’m going right into it tonight then. No way I could wait.
     
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  47. RonBurgundy

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    Motherfucking Stormrider.

    I think based on all the shit about him earlier, just before shit starts going down, he's actually an elder god. Complete speculation, but him and Draconus have beef and so I think he's an elder god we haven't been told about yet.
     
  48. Irush

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    Tavore is fucking batshit
     
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  49. Irush

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    Ok so I’m really hoping
    Icarium creating an Azath house in the Wastelands means an easy way for Kalam to show up and join the bonehunters

    Otherwise I’m gonna be mad
     
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  50. Irush

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    I have never much liked Forkrul Assail


    Well god* damn


    *hood
     
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