Ozark (Netflix)

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  1. Shawn Hunter

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    Looks like shit is about to go off the rails
     
  2. Jack Parkman

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    Gotta be a dream where she kills Javy right?

    doubt they’d show that in a trailer
     
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  3. gus_chiggins

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    Maybe not. Javy is impossibly stupid so he was always going to die
     
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    well yeah but I’d think they’ll keep how he dies under wraps and not show that in the preview
     
  5. Sub-Zero

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    Maybe he’s shot but not dead
     
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  6. southlick

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  7. Shawn Hunter

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    Oh shit didn't realize it was coming back this weekend
     
  8. southlick

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  9. Shawn Hunter

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    Season 4, Episode 11
    Damn Marty beat the shit out of that dude, didn't think he had that in him
     
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    Finished it. Looking forward to discussion after others do too.
     
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  11. Shawn Hunter

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    I finished it on Friday
     
  12. Clegg

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    Supremely disappointed
     
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  13. Shawn Hunter

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    In the season or that I finished it? lol
     
  14. Clegg

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    I couldn't disagree more.
     
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    When are the rest of y’all going to finish?
     
  17. identikit

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    That's what she said
     
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  18. Quick

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    Enjoyed it. Ready to talk about it
     
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    Since there's a handful of us that have finished it plus many more I'm guessing after tonight. I think we can start the discussion. Just make sure you spoiler your shit.

    I'll preface my general take by saying I really love the series as a whole. It doesn't belong near the top criminal dramas but every season was entertaining and the acting was very good across the board.

    With that being said, I'd be lying if I didn't admit I think they limped to the finish line. Ruth getting got by Camila made sense but there was no drama or surprise to it. The car accident was just weird and didn't fit into anything really, especially since no one died. Then the final scene. The P.I. who was in approx. 1% of the series gets to be in the final scene with Jonah killing him? Meh. I get the cookie jar has Ben's ashes in it but so what...it's ashes. You can't pull DNA or prove identity from someone's ashes.

    Still, overall a damn fine show, just a bit of a letdown ending for me.
     
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    Sup Ruth, sometimes annoy me but e8 was awesome

    who was the hip hop group in the coffee shop? Like her, I’m still stuck in the 90s

    absolutely wonderful episode and incorporation of Illmatic
     
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  21. identikit

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    The detective already explained how old crematoriums sometimes aren't efficient enough to turn bones/teeth into ash. So DNA would still be there
     
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    Killer Mike
     
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    Yeah maybe I just know too much about it all irl to know that's a convenient thing for the writers to have them say. It's fine. 99% of people won't notice or think about it like I did.
     
  24. Bankz

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    I thought the last few episodes where a way to speed through some ideas they had but ran out of time do dive into.

    Marty as cartel boss was cool.

    Car crash almost felt like it should’ve come at the every end with that bitch dying.

    Ruth… idk, mixed feelings on her conclusion.

    The final scene was lame… kinda wish they flushed out the family reaction to Ruth.

    Such a good show overall. I enjoyed the ride
     
  25. Prospector

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    Almost finished. Fucking hate Wendy
     
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  26. Corch

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    lol what a bad way to end an otherwise pretty good show. They had no idea how to land it and couldn't do any better than that?
     
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    Pretty hollow ending to a very good show.
     
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  28. identikit

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    They left it, conveniently, intact to continue the story at a later time.

    The only major character that didn't survive was played by the one actor who (likely) would be too busy to continue her role.
     
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  29. Super Vegeta

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    Killing Ruth of fit with the theme of the show. All of these poor people get got while the rich come out just fine and continue to do whatever they please.
    With the exception of Navarro and Javi.


    Mel saying “the world doesn’t work like that” and Wendy answering “Since when?” sums up that whole theme.
     
  30. Tex

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    Meh
     
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  31. Deep dirt

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    Yeah really was expecting more of the conflict storyline with Ruth vs Marty. I don’t know, really seems like they neutered Marty massively and he was just along for the ride by the end of the series. I guess I’m comparing it to Breaking Bad and that’s not fair/productive. Guess I just wanted to see one more Byrd scheme either come to fruition or fail spectacularly, but I think we got neither.
     
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  32. Shawn Hunter

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    Final season felt rushed to me
     
  33. PAHokie

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    Maybe I don’t fully grasp where the Byrds ended this, but my understanding is that they got their escape/desired conclusion with the charity. So everything worked out for them and I think that last episode really sowed everything up pretty well.
     
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  34. Corch

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    That's because they had no idea how to end it and just threw shit against the wall
     
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  35. Pelican

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    Good series but I didn't like the ending. I wish they wouldn't have done the Ben flashback this season. His exit from the show was one of the best parts of the series (best episode overall imo) and they should have left it at that. Also Wendy's dad sucked as a character.
     
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    I think it goes back to running out of time to fully flush out and develop storylines. They could've done an entire season of Marty as cartel boss. I think a deeper dive into the dad, maybe more focus on his hypocrisy and maybe flash backs to his days of beating and mentally abusing his kids. They just didn't have enough time to really do justice to all the storylines they wanted to hit before calling it a series.
     
  37. identikit

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    That's on them...
     
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  38. Bankz

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    Well yeah, it’s not me giving them a free pass. But it’s clear they had more road to walk.
     
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  39. Lando Donovan

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    I think it’s very cliche to shit on a series finale. Show was great, ending was everything it could be with the amount of time they had. Every character rounded into their final form. I could see a spin off happening with the new Cartel, with perhaps cameos from the Byrdes. No way Netflix doesn’t squeeze more money out of the best series they’ve done in a long time.
     
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    I think it’s very cliche to say it’s cliche to shit on a finale. It (along with parts of the final few episodes) were disappointing and deserving of criticism. The defense that they did the best they could with what time they had make no sense to me. This show has been one of Netflix’s crown jewels for the last half decade, if the creators/writers/showrunners wanted an additional 2 or 4 or 6 episodes they absolutely would have gotten them. It was rushed and sort of half assed. It didn’t at all ruin the series or anything but overall Ozark will be remembered as a good/very good show when it could have been great.
     
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    I think more goes into the filming outside of being OK'd the budget to film an addition 4-6 episodes. I know actor scheduling can become a major issue when trying to film a show that has lasted as long as this one has. Especially given the added popularity of the actors because of it. We really don't know what the backend stuff looked like. I don't think the final season was bad. I don't think the finale was bad either. I've seen a ton of elite shows have way worse endings to a series.
     
  42. Lando Donovan

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    What would you have done differently for the finale?
     
  43. Craig Pettis

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    Just finished it. I haven’t really digested all of it but my knee jerk is that I loved the ending. I didn’t think I’d like an outcome where they got out clean, so to speak, but it was a feel good ending that I actually enjoyed.

    As far as the series overall, I found it highly entertaining to watch once through but it will not hold up like the greats on rewatch. The acting, production, and cinematography were incredible; the writing was meh at best and the whole thing is littered with plot holes.
     
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    Final scene would have been much better if Jonah had turned the gun toward Wendy after killing the P.I. and then the screen went black.
     
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    I thought he was going to do the same
     
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    This is a good idea. I think the message they went with was worthy of the ending (how the world works, how kids often trend towards becoming their parents) and I think big hit shows are sort of loathe to go the Sopranos route and leave a series defining moment (or choice) behind the black curtain of the end of the show. Especially Netflix.
     
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    There's a really good behind the scenes type episode with a bunch of the cast members comments and whatnot on Netflix. It's just 30 mins long titled A Farewell to Ozark. Definitely recommend.
     
  48. arrdub

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    I think Jonah becoming a cold blooded killer was the fruit of the seeds that were sewn - even foreshadowed strongly in earlier seasons - and they were going to end it this way in some form or fashion for quite some time

    the Byrds feel good ending and means of “getting away with it” cost their son his soul. I think that’s the point they’re trying to make.

    I think I liked it and it was a fitting ending. Oddly I found myself disliking almost every character except Marty as they each took turns willfully screwing things up and acting like the cartel would just ho hum it.
     
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    Loved the show, the series, etc. My only final season question is: how the fuck did they not find a metric fuck ton of heroin at the site of a double homicide at the property of a known heroin farmer?
     
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