The Thread about Teaching and the Dumbasses We Teach

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  1. whiteboy

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    I can't tell if little things are bothering me that I should let go or if it's worth being this annoyed with stuff.

    We have a pond on our campus and were out near it enjoying the weather in my last class today. Kid finds an old tin can either on the ground or in the water that he pulls out. I notice him filling it with water and splashing it around (general 14 year old kid stuff) as he walks back to the side where I am. He gets close and before I can tell him to make sure that it ends up in the trash can when we head back inside, he turns and chucks it right into the middle of the pond. It landed just right so it was floating and drifted back to the opposite bank so I made him go get it as we were going in. I turn my back to walk in and a minute later he comes running back empty handed. I asked where the can was and he said it sunk and was gone even though I watched it reach the bank. So I made him stay after school to go fish it out from the 6 inches of water.

    I wouldn't have been that petty (there's probably plenty of trash at the bottom of the pond) but we literally started the class period on the way outside with me pulling him aside and telling him he's been more disruptive in class than usual the past couple of weeks and asking what was going on. Talked about having 3 weeks after thanksgiving for him to turn it back around and show me he could behave better. He said he was going to try. Even if he wasn't very convincing, I expected him to make it at least the rest of class without reverting to more buttheaded behavior.

    I think what annoys me the most is he acts like I'm oblivious. He'll lie about stuff I watched him do or the other day he made a joke about a girl's clothes and when I called him on it he tried to tell me he was talking about some other kid not in our class. I would say it's like dealing with a 6th grader, but I figure a 6th grader at least figures out what they can and can't get away with by the 15th week of school.

    Probably just needed to vent more than anything.
     
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  2. huskerrolly

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    It’s interesting how everything is the same all over the country. Week has been so long and this year has sucked so bad.
     
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  3. pearl

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    From one of my students. Dis too much :feelsgoodman:

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  4. pearl

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    Student - “When’s Christmas? The 28th?”
     
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  5. TC

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    Somebody told me K12 public schools are desperate for teachers and in some cases you could work around needed degree credentials if you could pass a PRAXIS test. They said an interested person should reach out to a principal directly.

    Anyone know if there's any truth?
     
  6. audrew

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    That’s called an apprentice license. You pass the PRAXIS test for teaching in general and one for your subject area. If you do that, you can get a license, but usually it expires in 3 years. You have until that time to get a degree. That’s what I did. Got my master’s while I was at it. I assume that’s pretty much the same everywhere.
     
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  7. rv12

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    Entirely dependent on the state you're in and their credentialing policies. Are you in SC? It's pretty simple there (basically what you outlined above) but happy to try and help with any questions. (I work in ed policy and have written a few briefs on alternative pathways but I'm sure that there are others who have gone through the process themselves.)
     
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  8. Jake Barnes

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    I know that an ex of mine got an emergency certification in Alabama to teach English at a HS. She had a journalism degree in undergrad.

    It’s p much the same concept as what audrew is talking about, but the renewal is year-to-year. It’s made under the assumption that you’ll be working towards a full edu degree.
     
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  9. ashy larry

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    you talmbout the PACE program and yes it’s a thing. reaching out to a principal wouldn’t be the avenue in SC tho- it’s a state dept thing.
     
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  10. TC

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    Yes, I’m in SC.

    Bachelors in Journalism. Minor in Music. Masters in Education (M.Ed. Higher Education).

    Music teacher is the idea I was exploring. I have a bunch of years built up working for the state already so this would be a way to do something new within that
     
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  11. ashy larry

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    i think to meet eligibility for music teacher through the pace program you’d have to have majored in music.
     
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  12. TC

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    The difference in a minor and full on major is significant unfortunately. Different than most subjects I guess
     
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  13. TC

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    I can’t play every band instrument but I doubt there’s anything on a theory test I wouldn’t know. Maybe that is just me being cocky. I knew way more theory than people in the music classes I took
     
  14. ashy larry

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    im not 100% so definitely check with the state dept.
     
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  15. THEBLUERAIDER

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    If you are looking for Tennessee info, I can help.
     
  16. THEBLUERAIDER

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    If you’re willing to share, I’d like to read those briefs. I recently finished my dissertation on professional development/training for technical college faculty and included a lot of data on alternative teacher licensing in the secondary space. You can DM if you are willing to share. Thanks!
     
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  17. pearl

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    One of my students saw my AOL email and asked me what AOL is
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  18. shawnoc

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  19. whiteboy

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    We have any teachers here in the Austin/Central TX area? I don't think there's a Central TX thread that I could find but I feel like I remember one or two people from this thread teaching in or around Austin.

    Wife has an interview at a district next week that originally she didn't have much interest in (they approached her) but after a couple of phone calls we both feel like it's worth pursuing. But neither of us are from that area and don't know much about any of the districts there.
     
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  20. Emma

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    I think I want to quit teaching. I don't enjoy it anymore, I don't see myself enjoying it 10 years from now, the pay is bad, and I feel like shit for feeling this way.

    Love working with students. Don't enjoy everything else.
     
  21. pearl

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    Same
     
  22. Nandor the Relentless

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    From someone who was in basically the same situation in a different career path three years ago, sounds like it's time to quit.
     
  23. duc15

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    burnout is starting to creep in for me too
     
  24. Biship

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    I have a buddy that works for social security. We graduated together in Ed. I got a job quick and he didn’t so went to work for ss.

    he calls me every year asking if I want to come work for the ssa

    i would absolutely do it 10 years ago but it would be a huge pay cut now
     
  25. Biship

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    I’ve taught 17 years
     
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  26. audrew

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    I’m not burned out…but I’m at a place where I ain’t changing shit about how I teach my classes. I know what works, and that’s what I’m doing.
     
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  27. pearl

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    They want us to do CT3 with the students. Honestly, I have no idea what it is.

    Also, my principal was less than pleased that I didn’t force all my students to signup for the APUSH exam in May.

    First of all, the exam is not required for graduation. Second, you can’t make them take something that they don’t want to either
     
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  28. bigred77

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    Not a teacher but I do work with a bunch of the isd's in the area.
    What kinda questions you got?

    Also. We do have an atx thread.

    https://www.the-mainboard.com/index.php?threads/atx-acl-sxsw-tmb-idk-lmbo.94015/
     
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  29. TC

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    I thought you were school psychologist or something, didn't realize you did teaching
     
  30. Hank Scorpio

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    :bunnywithapancakeonitshead:

    But I also want to quit
     
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  31. TC

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    I'm an "advisor" at a college, and I also want to quit!
     
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  32. shawnoc

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    Burnout is crazy this year across the country.
    plus it snowballs since less teachers = more coverage per teacher. I have less free time than any previous year so I’m doing more work at home.
    I am going to stick it out until the end of the year and see what happens, of course, but I don’t think I can do another year of this.
     
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  33. TC

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    What are yall gonna pivot to? I feel low on transferable skills for anything else, at least as far as an HR person would be concerned. I think I could make like $20 a week teaching guitar lessons
     
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  34. Hank Scorpio

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    Hand model.

    But seriously, I think the only thing I could see myself doing would be serving in some kind of staff development or compliance role. Kind of wishing I had pursued either industrial psych or something in statistics maybe.

    The other problem would be the possible cut in pay. There'd have to be a clear path to advancement to at least make as much as I'm making now, but preferably more. My wife and I have been with our employer for the exact same amount of time. We started out making the same. My salary has barely increased, hers has tripled. Where do I sign up for that?
     
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  35. TC

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    We should have all done IT. We could still work at schools and get paid more to chill
     
  36. Hank Scorpio

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    One of the nice things about my job is the level of autonomy I have. If I'm fairly caught up and there's nothing pressing, I'll have a day here and there where I'm basically going down Youtube and Google/Wikipedia rabbit holes all day long. That basically happened on Tuesday.
     
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  37. ashy larry

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    sounds like you need a few more IEPs on that calendar
     
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  38. shawnoc

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  39. Hank Scorpio

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    Not my fault the case managers aren't scheduling them :smug:
     
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  40. Emma

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    Special education service provider, think like OT and PT.

    I took a job in Denver. First of my position in 20 years. Thought it was a step in the right direction. It's not. My mental health is shot and I'm considering putting in my resignation to the tomorrow. I've followed through with everything my entire life, did things by the book and I'm ready to be selfish for once and find a new light. The cost of living here hasn't helped.

    I'll either sub for a surrounding school district till my lease is up or break my lease and move back to Wisconsin sub. Will look for a different teaching job in the meantime or getting out of teaching altogether.
     
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  41. TC

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    Don't worry about that at all man. There's no honor in beating your head against a wall if it's not working out for you. Everything happens for a reason. You made a big move and tried another state. If the feedback coming back to you is "not this place", then you should absolutely act on that
     
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  42. Emma

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    I'm good with this. Happy with this. I entered the profession with my eyes open, had some good years of experience and realized it's not for me right now. I can always come back down the road if I want to. Letting down those that hired me/have worked with me sucks, but I need a new start.
     
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  43. whiteboy

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    At this point I'm not even sure what questions to ask and will probably have more after her interview. Are you familiar with Leander ISD? I don't remember which specific high school campus in the district but in general any good or bad reputations with the district?

    They asked her to apply for a head coaching job for next year but she is most hopeful to get the girls athletic coordinator position too so she can, like others ITT, get out of the classroom.
     
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  44. bigred77

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    Yea I know leander isd better than any of them.
    Literally our biggest client for over 20 years
    I know the superintendent, cfo, cco and many others very well.

    Absolutely amazing isd, fastest growing in the state for atleast as long as we have been working with them. with more commitment to academic success, facilities, improvement.... everything more than anyone I have ever worked with.

    I have been involved in all 6 high school campuses in the past couple of years and know several of the coaches pretty well.
     
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  45. whiteboy

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    Awesome to hear :beerchug:
     
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  46. bigred77

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    Pm me about which campus she is looking at, etc
     
  47. audrew

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    No. No you don’t not have to respect it.
     
  48. Emma

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    The funniness dies after the 2nd or 3rd time
     
  49. Nandor the Relentless

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    IT wasn't even funny the 1st time
     
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  50. Emma

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    Too bad it's not a physics class, you could tie it into noise cancelation or something