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  1. DetroitNole

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  2. Lip

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    Prob old shit repackaged into graphics

    I'll tell the group chat they are morons
     
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    Brock Faber signed an 8x8.5 extension with Minnesota. Almost the perfect comparable for Seider imo.
     
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    Or not.

     
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    With Columbus trading Laine, there is a part of me wondering if they would consider an offer sheet for Seider or Raymond. It’s very unlikely (I am not sure either guy would even consider wanting to play for CBJ) but Columbus has a ton of cap space now.
     
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    I was wondering earlier if St Louis's success would create a bit of a wave of offer sheets.
     
  8. DeToxRox

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    The middle class of offer sheets is the sweet spot for teams, which is why I doubt someone would offer Raymond or Seider. Big name guys are always going to get matched but the margins are where teams can succeed.
     
  9. DeToxRox

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    MBN with two goals in Norway’s Olympic qualifier against France. Kids skill is so underrated. I think he’s gonna’ stick around in GR.
     
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    Skating seems below average. Love everything else

     
  11. DeToxRox

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    Pronman ranked our pipeline 14th. In his criteria he includes Raymond but Seider no longer qualifies.

    I’ve seen some people be outraged but Pronman puts a focus on high skill level and our current crop of young guys doesn’t have much of that right now. I think we are building a good foundation to be a consistent playoff team. Getting over the hump will take one or two guys developing at a greater level or a trade.
     
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  12. The Banks

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    What’s the criteria?
     
  13. DeToxRox

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    Player eligibility: All skaters who are 22 years old or younger as of Sept. 15, 2024, regardless of how many NHL games they’ve played, are eligible. Player heights and weights are taken from the NHL.

    Tool grades: Tool grades are based on a scale with six separate levels, with an eye toward how this attribute would grade in the NHL (poor, below-average, average, above-average, high-end and elite). “Average” on this scale means the tool projects as NHL average, which is meant as a positive, not a criticism. Skating, puck skills, hockey sense and compete for every projected NHL player are graded. Shot grades are only included if a shot is notably good or poor.
     
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    Should only be 5 categories if average is one of them.
     
  15. The Banks

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    14th seems egregious
     
  16. DeToxRox

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    Less relevant now but I wouldn’t be shocked if he stuck around in GR.
     
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    Camp starts Thursday. I don’t anticipate much craziness but a few things worth watching:

    - The RFA contracts. I imagine Berggren is signed last in a perfect world but he needs to be in camp so he needs to sign sooner than later. If Berggren signs in the next few days it’s probably a sign we won’t see Seider or Raymond signed before Thursday.

    - The roster is mostly set. We have 12 forwards likely penciled in, plus at least 7 D and 3 G. That leaves one open spot as of now. I do think Husso ends up on LTIR which opens up a second spot, but the reality is that spot would probably just go to Holl since we won’t probably move him.

    - If the final spot is for a 13th forward, it wouldn’t surprise me if it goes to Austin Watson. I still think a kid will have to have a big camp to make the team but if one young guy is the favorite it’s probably Mazur.

    - To that end, GR’s roster is very thin with scoring depth so I do expect guys like Danielson and Kasper to be asked to shoulder the load. It also makes me think MBN has a real shot to play games in GR before a decision is made about sending him back to Sweden.

    - Who does Edvinsson play with? I’d be shocked if Seider is with anyone but Chiarot to start the season. With that being the case I think it’s most likely Edvinsson is with Petry. Not a big fan of that but that’s the state of our D right now.
     
  19. The Banks

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    Can’t believe our D is in that state.
     
  20. DeToxRox

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    Agreed. If Johansson gets a legit shop to show he’s a bottom pair D, that helps. We need Edvinsson to hit though. I don’t think that’s a concern but this year has to be about Edvinsson developing and then hopefully finding some additional success elsewhere that can be counted on going forward.

    Next year we have to add a top four D though.
     
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    Stylistically Seider and Edvinsson can be good partners, but I get the value of them each playing 25 mins a night on different pairings.

    While we’re stuck with Chiarot the next two years, we need to find a long term partner for Seider on the top pairing. I believe ASP would pair well with Edvinsson, Ed’s skating and defensive zone play should be able to babysit him defensively.
     
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  22. DeToxRox

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    That’s how I feel as well.

    Get Chiarot on the third pair next season with Johansson and that’s probably fine if Johansson shows he can be a solid bottom pair guy. Gotta find another LHD though.
     
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  23. DeToxRox

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    Listening to Friedman’s latest podcast today, he mentioned a Freep article about the Wings wanting to keep Seider and Raymond under Larkin’s cap hit. Friedman said he doesn’t anticipate that being an issue for Raymond (he also said he believes that one might be close to being done) but isn’t sure if Seider would take under Larkin’s number.

    I think it would be a steal for Raymond to come in under 8.75. Seider I have some concerns going that large a number but we will see what happens.
     
  24. DeToxRox

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  26. Manny

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    Great deal.
     
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  29. DayDomination

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    Thank the fucking lord
    Now do Mo
     
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    That is better than I expected for his contract
     
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  31. The Banks

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    Pretty basic number there
     
  32. DeToxRox

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    I’m fine with this
     
  33. DeToxRox

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    Mazur being up 12 lbs is a big deal if it’s accurate. He needs all the weight he can handle. Also a good sign for Edvinsson.
     
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  34. DayDomination

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    Seider news gonna drop tonight or tomorrow ?

    Still hoping for 8 yrs and 8.7
     
  35. Lip

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    is Finnie someone I should have heard of?
     
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    7th rounder two years ago but he’s developing nicely
     
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    Bultman thinks Finnie may be a steal and a future NHLer
     
  38. The Banks

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    59 points in 62 games for the worst team in the W last year
     
  39. Manny

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    Claude and Steve playing hard ball it seems.
     
  40. DeToxRox

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    I think camp lines can tell you the starting point for the staffs choices. Danielson playing with two PTOs that could stick around in GR is a sign he’s going to at least be the 1C for GR to start the season.
     
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    Also the Copp line is a great fourth line that will be our third line and that is a bummer.
     
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  43. Manny

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    Our D is so ass. Mo's biggest point of leverage probably, look at the rest of these bums I have to carry.

    Solid top line
    Could great 2nd line offensively, zero D outside of Compher.
    2 4th lines.
     
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  45. DetroitNole

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    Seems like a decent compromise, let him hit FA a year earlier to keep his cap hit below Larkins
     
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  47. Manny

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    I'll take it. Get these boys some fucking help and let's ride.
     
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  48. DeToxRox

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    200K in space left over with 12F. 8D, 3G. My guess is we break camps with three goalies, then put Husso on LTIR to call up a 13th forward.
     
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