What kind of snake is this?

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  1. MORBO!

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    When it happened and I was making her go through snake pictures of the common ones that we’ll find around here in Atlanta, she was bouncing back and forth between a water snake and a cottonmouth. Took him to the vet just in case and he was completely fine after like 30 minutes, so I wasn’t too concerned.

    He’s a big boy (about 100 pounds), but he’s a dumb boy. Hence the sniffing a snake’s face.
     
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  2. a.tramp

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    Oopsy daisy!
     
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  3. BP

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    So apparently this guy was bitten right after this and is in the ICU. Dude regularly free handles venomous. Some were saying all his snakes had to be euthanized.


     
  4. dblplay1212

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  5. bigred77

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    Cottonmouth?
    There was two of them right by each other, the other was bigger and dove off in the water before this one went the other way

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  6. electronic

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    Si
     
  7. sc_chant

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  8. electronic

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  9. BP

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  10. Owsley

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    There are a lot of good guys who keep hots, do everything the right way, and try their hardest to stress the dangers (and rewards) of keeping such amazing creatures. And they rarely get recognized.

    Unfortunately, the dumbassess and thrill seekers, who also typically combine their ignorance with poor husbandry and flashy IG vids, are an absolute bane on the hobby. It’s a tragedy that that idiots snakes were all euthanized because of his terrible decisions. Hope they pull the plug on him soon tbh.
     
  11. BP

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    Agree. That kid in the video does pretty well and even uses hide boxes that lock to increase safety. He also touched on how 1 idiot can ruin it for everyone else due to law changes that could be coming down the pipe.
     
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  12. electronic

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    Eh, I think there's a line where it's better for the people and the snakes to make sure that dipshits like this guy aren't able to essentially torture his animals. Unqualified people shouldn't be able to purchase and keep mambas in their residential neighborhoods just because they can pay enough.
     
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  13. Owsley

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    It should be akin to falconry. Required lengthy apprenticeships under constant supervision before being able to keep on your own, regular checks of your setups by game and fish, having to register literally every single thing you do. Private ownership can do a lot of good for the long-term stability of species, but just about any swinging dick being able to keep hots is a massive problem.
     
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  14. Henry Blake

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    Is Florida the main state with a problem where snakes have escaped (or been released), or are there other regions where that's happened in the US?
     
  15. Owsley

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    Invasives are a problem everywhere one way or another, but yeah, Florida is the flag bearer. Most seem to think the Burmese issue began with hurricane Andrew, but it’s by far the main state where importation of exotic species (of all types) for the private trade occurs, and that’s obviously led to countless issues. People also buy snakes not realizing how long-lived they are, or what their proper needs are, inevitably get bored of them, and simply turn them loose.
     
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  16. Henry Blake

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    I'm sure other types of snakes have been released across the US. Is FL just a uniquely good environment for pythons to thrive and/or are the pythons just so formidable that their population took off? I just wonder why some other snake species haven't found footholds in other regions -- maybe some have? Climate's not right, etc.
     
  17. Owsley

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    Climate and food. If you want, you can dig up some long-term studies on the collapse of mammalian populations in the Everglades over the past 30ish years since the Burms took hold. But it’s not localized to Florida. We’re dealing with tegus in Georgia now, asiatic carp, roundhead gobies, and zebra mussels have been a major issue in the Great Lakes for years, snakeheads were first found in the DMV area, European starlings being released in Central Park way back in the day, etc.
     
  18. Henry Blake

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    Really interesting. Thanks.
     
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  19. Owsley

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    Certain animals have also simply adapted to human environments and climate change as well. Coyotes are native to the desert southwest and Great Plains but began to spread exponentially with the clearing of eastern forests and extirpation of wolves. Armadillos naturally crossed the Rio Grande and found new lands with few predators (other than cars) and a warm enough climate to thrive in. Cuban tree frogs likely came over on hurricane flotsam and are now destroying native frog populations. Barred owls spread westward via fire suppression and tree planting and now are a major threat to the long-term survival of spotted owls. There’s always something going on, whether it’s a direct or indirect result of our actions to change the world we live in.
     
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  20. billdozer

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    Look who I found

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  21. bigred77

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    He's pretty
    Did you pet him?
     
  22. billdozer

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    Slipped him into my pocket for later.
     
  23. BP

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    Yeah it's a unique combo of circumstances with Burms. They're basically apex predators and with in a few years are too big for anything to eat them besides gators. They're around 2 ft long at birth. Couple that with Florida being a perfect climate for them and they have dozens of babies at a time even reports of over 100 eggs for the larger females. Lionfish are a big problem off the coast of FL. Here in AZ there's a big problem with bullfrogs overtaking and out competing native amphibians.
     
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  24. fuxstockings

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    Just found this guy around the house. Holy shit. Rattlesnake? Copperhead?
     
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  25. JRodMK1

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    I'm not an expert but that looks like a Cottonmouth
     
  26. BP

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    My vote is Copperhead
     
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  27. electronic

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    Copperhead.
     
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  28. electronic

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    And a well fed one at that.
     
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  29. electronic

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    Also, if you’re uncomfortable with it there, call a relocation expert. Don’t kill it.
     
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  30. herb.burdette

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    In 2017, my son and I volunteered with his Cub Scout troop to plant a little over 100 hybrid chestnuts, which are 92% genetic to original American chestnut but blight resistant in the 8%.

    As of this July, the camp director where we planted them told me 90% have survived.

    They’re getting big, 10-15 feet high, but not bearing nuts yet.
     
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  31. fuxstockings

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    For sure, I didn't even think about killing it. I just hope it's gone when I get back home to take the dogs out.
     
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  32. Owsley

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    For future reference, and just FYI, the best/easiest/safest way to get a venomous snake away from the current area it occupies is a gentle spray with a water hose. Pretty easy to lead them to the nearest point of egress while maintaining a safe distance for everyone involved.
     
  33. tigr2ndbase

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    I put up a snake crossing sign in my yard so they know where to go.
     
  34. Gunners

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    Damnit, bit again and in a coma
     
  35. dblplay1212

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    All of these guys live in the FAFO zone, hope he dodges the FO stage again.
     
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  36. ClemPson

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    This was the results of a copperhead bite per the post.

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  37. Henry Blake

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    From his wife's post on instagram. Allergic to snake venom in addition to the usual bad effects everyone would experience.
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  38. BP

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    So basically most of the big Youtubers that keep venomous have been bitten
     
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  39. Prospector

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    Diamondback watersnake?
     
  40. dblplay1212

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    I think that's always been a safe assumption. It's only a matter of time. It's going to happen if you handle them.
     
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  42. sc_chant

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    This isn't his first time by any means
     
  43. billdozer

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    To be tortured by my daughter for a while

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  44. Gunners

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  46. Gunners

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    Crossed my mind but didn’t know you could do that with all venomous and it’s probably such a rare occurrence with a snake like that, how are you sure it’s not hot at all. Any scenario, fuck that guy.
     
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  47. EdmondDantes

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    these fuckin guys who get bit by their exotic venomous snakes, what is their usual plan for anti venom? Do they keep their own or just wing it without if they get bit?
     
  48. Gunners

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    Think it depends on the state for the most part. The IG account I posted about the gaboon, that dude was bit by a king and had enough anti-venom quickly sent over to save his life barely.

    Honestly seems like some of them view being bit as a rite of passage
     
  49. dblplay1212

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    Handling venomous snakes outside of scientific purposes should be illegal.