Top Gun Sequel

Discussion in 'The Mainboard' started by Stanley Ipkiss, Oct 17, 2011.

  1. poor paul

    poor paul Well-Known Member
    Donor

    ok I just can't square the 'best movie star of your lifetime'

    there's definitely actors who have consistently had better roles, and better movies over their career.

    Tom Cruise's work in the Mission Impossible series, a few other roles, and the Top Gun movies certainly put him in that tier for action movie stars.
     
    Dick Dollars likes this.
  2. Redav

    Redav One big ocean
    Donor

    I feel like you're just wanting to have a semantics argument here and I'll let you have it.
     
  3. poor paul

    poor paul Well-Known Member
    Donor

    nah, I just don't hold Tom Cruise in that esteem.
     
  4. lol wat. What action actors over the last 40 years do you think are comparable to Tom Cruise? If it is personal preference sure I get that but box office bank type of guarantee it is him, then Will Smith (who I think almost all of his movies suck), and the Rock recently
     
  5. poor paul

    poor paul Well-Known Member
    Donor

    I literally said if he purely wants to talk action movies I would agree. if that's semantics so be it, but 'best movie star of lifetime' I'd have Tom Hanks, Denzel Washington, Leonardo Dicaprio, etc. ahead of Tom Cruise.
     
    FTK, Henry Blake and Aussie like this.
  6. Alright fair enough but even without chasing the accolade awards I think he is clearly in that category, this has nothing to do with a period of my life where I lived within walking distance of one of the main hubs of the church of scientology
     
  7. bigred77

    bigred77 Well-Known Member
    Donor
    Texas Tech Red RaidersTexas RangersSan Antonio SpursDallas CowboysKansas City ChiefsAustin FCTexas Tech Red Raiders alt

    Bruce Willis and nic cage
     
    FTK likes this.
  8. repoocs

    repoocs Lorem ipsum dolor sit amet
    Donor
    Notre Dame Fighting IrishCincinnati RedsCincinnati BengalsXavier Musketeers

    You can't argue against those, either, but I feel you're pigeon holing him into a type based on the MI series. Some were better than others, but before somewhat settling into the MI and Jack Reacher prototype, there was Eyes Wide Shut, A Few Good Men (great movie), Jerry McGuire, Rain Man, Cocktail, Color of Money, Interview with a Vampire, Born on the Fourth of July, Risky Business, All the Right Moves, Taps, etc. He's played some great roles in great movies, a few OK movies and a few stinkers, as every actor does. But that's a pretty damned good partial list right there.
     
    Chumbolone, Ty Webb, lazy bum and 6 others like this.
  9. Redav

    Redav One big ocean
    Donor

    A Few Good Men is prob my favorite Cruise movie if I had to pick
     
  10. Redav

    Redav One big ocean
    Donor

    I also think MI1 is underrated but I've always been a fan of weird shit De Palma does
     
    CaneKnight, BudKilmer and repoocs like this.
  11. poor paul

    poor paul Well-Known Member
    Donor

    I will not argue that he's a great actor and movie star who has had an incredibly successful career. Also, I am very much looking forward to the new Top Gun.
     
    repoocs likes this.
  12. HowdyHorns

    HowdyHorns Well-Known Member
    Donor
    Texas LonghornsFlorida GatorsLos Angeles Kings

    And you still left off arguably the best in Daniel Day-Lewis. Cruise is usually in very entertaining movies that may not be considered great from a artistic point of view. Saying someone is the best would have to be in a very narrowly defined way when it comes to acting.
     
  13. Paddy Murphy

    Paddy Murphy Well-Known Member
    Atlanta BravesCarolina PanthersWofford TerriersUnited States Men's National Soccer TeamLiverpoolCharlotte FC

    Don’t forget Days of Thunder.

    I have professed my love for MI and Tom Cruise in the MI thread, but worth stating again. Cruise is weird as fuck but is a great actor and a great stuntman. Basically every movie of his is both a) very good and b) very rewatchable. Mission Impossible is cool as fuck in all aspects and it’s basically just Tom Cruise Open World Adventure.

    Have a crew for TG2 in IMAX now. Might need to put a flight suit on for this.
     
  14. Redav

    Redav One big ocean
    Donor

    I think Cruise is an adrenaline junky which explains the insane stunts
     
  15. $P1

    $P1 Ball State #1
    Staff Donor TMB OG
    Michigan WolverinesChicago CubsLos Angeles LakersChicago BearsWest Ham UnitedBall State Cardinals

    Edge of Tomorrow and Color of Money for me I think
     
  16. War Grundle

    War Grundle Nole Mercy
    Donor
    Florida State SeminolesTampa Bay Rays

    That or Top Gun for me.

    Him as Les Grossman I think was a great career move at the time. After that his Q rating went back up.
     
    FTK, BudKilmer, $P1 and 1 other person like this.
  17. $P1

    $P1 Ball State #1
    Staff Donor TMB OG
    Michigan WolverinesChicago CubsLos Angeles LakersChicago BearsWest Ham UnitedBall State Cardinals

    Forgot about The Firm. Fucking love it
     
    southlick, Ty Webb, FTK and 7 others like this.
  18. PrinceWimbley

    PrinceWimbley Well-Known Member

    Some other pretty good ones not named yet:

    American Made
    Magnolia
    Collateral
    The Last Samurai
    Minority Report
    Vanilla Sky
    Far and Away
    The Firm
     
    Tigers, JC, Ty Webb and 8 others like this.
  19. CF3234

    CF3234 Fan of: Bandwagons
    Donor TMB OG
    Miami HurricanesMiami MarlinsMiami DolphinsFlorida PanthersTiger WoodsInter Miami CFGame of ThronesMiami Heat

    Tropic Thunder is his best role imo.
     
  20. poor paul

    poor paul Well-Known Member
    Donor

    :gross:
     
    BudKilmer, Charles DeMar and bwi2 like this.
  21. bigpig

    bigpig cultofwhatever.com
    Donor
    Arkansas RazorbacksNew York JetsAEW

    What's wrong with The Last Samurai?
     
  22. $P1

    $P1 Ball State #1
    Staff Donor TMB OG
    Michigan WolverinesChicago CubsLos Angeles LakersChicago BearsWest Ham UnitedBall State Cardinals

    Well it's entirely white-savior bullshit, but I also think it's entertaining
     
  23. bigpig

    bigpig cultofwhatever.com
    Donor
    Arkansas RazorbacksNew York JetsAEW

    It really isn't though. I haven't seen the movie in a while, granted, but Tom Cruise's character isn't a white savior or any kind of savior at all. He's not even the title character. He's just a filmmaking tool for the (likely western) audience to witness the story of the Last Samurai, that being Katsumoto. The title might even be plural, referring to the whole band of them focused on in the film. Cruise' character is saved BY the Samurai. He goes to Japan depressed, alcoholic and suicidal, and during his time among the Samurai they give him a reason to live.
     
    repoocs likes this.
  24. bwi2

    bwi2 Not affiliated with BWI
    Donor
    Duke Blue DevilsWashington NationalsArsenalUSA Basketball

    The whole movie is a white man’s trope-filled caricature of Japanese culture
     
    Dick Dollars likes this.
  25. Redav

    Redav One big ocean
    Donor

    I don't think that was the intent for Cruise but yeah Last Samurai is a white guy shows up and fixes everything. I still liked the movie however
     
  26. ARSENAL

    ARSENAL Montani Semper Liberi
    Donor
    West Virginia MountaineersAtlanta BravesCharlotte HornetsMiami DolphinsArsenal

    I enjoyed Cocktail, too.
     
  27. Redav

    Redav One big ocean
    Donor

    Cocktail is bad but good. Also Elisabeth Shue
     
    Ty Webb, BudKilmer, ARSENAL and 3 others like this.
  28. Looking back at reviews for the first Top Gun I was a bit surprised. 57% on RT, 6.9 (nice) on IMDB. I watched the shit out of it when i was younger and thought it was a masterpiece. Rewatched it and still thought it was great, fuck the haters
     
  29. Redav

    Redav One big ocean
    Donor

    Seems like a lot of those Bruckheimer movies will get like 55% on RT and be massive hits
     
    BudKilmer likes this.
  30. CF3234

    CF3234 Fan of: Bandwagons
    Donor TMB OG
    Miami HurricanesMiami MarlinsMiami DolphinsFlorida PanthersTiger WoodsInter Miami CFGame of ThronesMiami Heat

    The first half of cocktail is good. Then the mentor kills himself and the rest of the movie is AWFUL.
     
  31. Aussie

    Aussie Si Je Puis
    Donor
    Florida GatorsDallas MavericksDallas Cowboys

    It all falls apart after they leave Jamaica.
     
  32. Redav

    Redav One big ocean
    Donor

    Soundtrack is good too except for that fucking Beach Boys song
     
    BudKilmer and ARSENAL like this.
  33. bigred77

    bigred77 Well-Known Member
    Donor
    Texas Tech Red RaidersTexas RangersSan Antonio SpursDallas CowboysKansas City ChiefsAustin FCTexas Tech Red Raiders alt

    Today I realized I've never seen Cocktail
     
    Joe Withabee likes this.
  34. ~ taylor ~

    ~ taylor ~ Boom... head shot.
    Donor TMB OG

    I was going to offer up Hanks, Denzel and Leonardo. My lifetime also includes Harrison Ford, Paul Newman, Kevin Coster at his height, Sly Stallone, Eddie Murphy, Bill Murray and some more. But Cruise finding new life with the Mission Impossible and now the new Top Gun, and his 90s movies like The Firm and Jerry Maguire.. he's definitely Top 10 and probably Top 5.
     
  35. CaneKnight

    CaneKnight FSU Private Board's Fav Poster
    Donor

    WAT
     
    dblplay1212 likes this.
  36. AptosDuck

    AptosDuck Pedantic Hausfrau
    Donor
    California Golden Bears

    I saw Risky Business in a theater

    He was a producer for Without Limits, so I guess I worked for him
     
    Harrison Beck, Ty Webb and ~ taylor ~ like this.
  37. ARSENAL

    ARSENAL Montani Semper Liberi
    Donor
    West Virginia MountaineersAtlanta BravesCharlotte HornetsMiami DolphinsArsenal

    Add “Born on the 4th of July” too
     
    Charles DeMar likes this.
  38. Corch

    Corch I wanna talk to Sampson
    Donor
    Ohio State BuckeyesDenver NuggetsCleveland BrownsColorado State RamsCleveland CavaliersCleveland Indians

    Edge of Tomorrow is one of the most under-appreciated movies of my lifetime.

    It's such an enjoyable movie to watch.
     
    Lyrtch, Hatfield, Lawnole23 and 8 others like this.
  39. DuffandMuff

    DuffandMuff Well-Known Member
    Tampa Bay Lightning

    Watched Top Gun for the first time on Thursday. Ready for the sequel.
     
    Ty Webb, Charles DeMar and repoocs like this.
  40. ARSENAL

    ARSENAL Montani Semper Liberi
    Donor
    West Virginia MountaineersAtlanta BravesCharlotte HornetsMiami DolphinsArsenal

    Wait. What? First time ever?
     
  41. Gambler

    Gambler Hog Fan
    Donor

    First time? That's borderline criminal.
     
  42. HotMic

    HotMic Insider
    Donor
    Ohio State BuckeyesCleveland BrownsKent State Golden FlashesCleveland CavaliersCleveland Indians

    Interview With The Vampire
     
    Bar None, Chumbolone and Redav like this.
  43. Redav

    Redav One big ocean
    Donor

    I like that one too
     
  44. THF

    THF BITE THE NUTS, THUMB IN THE ASS!
    Donor
    Arkansas RazorbacksSan Francisco GiantsOklahoma City ThunderDallas CowboysSan Francisco 49'ersMontreal Impact

    My wife is pretty flexible in what she will watch, with two exceptions, she is not a fan of most Tom Cruise movies, and doesn't like SciFi. I tried to get her to watch Oblivion and then Edge of Tomorrow, and she Nope'd out on both.

    Its so frustrating because its such a fantastic movie.
     
    Corch likes this.
  45. Charles DeMar

    Charles DeMar Smug Outlaw
    Donor
    Ohio State BuckeyesHouston AstrosHouston RocketsHouston TexansRice Owls

  46. DuffandMuff

    DuffandMuff Well-Known Member
    Tampa Bay Lightning

    Yeah. First time ever. Never been a huge movie guy so there’s a ton of a well known classics that I’ve never seen.
     
  47. DuffandMuff

    DuffandMuff Well-Known Member
    Tampa Bay Lightning

    Rain Man. Roadhouse. Gladiator. Sixth Sense. Point Break. Tombstone. Those are some recent ones I’ve seen.

    Think I need to check out Mission Impossible series, Kill Bill, The Matrix, etc. I have never seen and don’t think I ever will see either LOTR or Star Wars.
     
    dblplay1212 likes this.
  48. Damn u are a badass for skipping those